I fit happens it's a good deal for Pittsburgh. Let's say Burnett returns to his form somehow...what a bargain for them.
I actually think he'll do really well in Pittsburgh. The switch to a soft hitting league (which lost two of its best hitters) in a pitcher friendly park with a lot less pressure will help him a lot. I could see him putting up some really good numbers. I hope he does.
The Yankees and Pirates are still discussing the deal and it'll probably be completed, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets. It seems likely that the Pirates will take on $13-15MM of the $33MM remaining on Burnett's contract and give up two non-roster players.
First news of today. If the Yankees save that much money and get anything in return, that's impressive.
Reports are Hughes is much slimmer and in great shape, lets hope he stays healthy and regains his form.
I've been rooting for hughes all along. If he can get it togetherand pineda can make the transition to the AL east..... Well the rotation looks pretty solid in my opinion if those two come around and AJ gets shipped out of town
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Reports are Hughes is much slimmer and in great shape, lets hope he stays healthy and regains his form.
I've been rooting for hughes all along. If he can get it togetherand pineda can make the transition to the AL east..... Well the rotation looks pretty solid in my opinion if those two come around and AJ gets shipped out of town
I am a big fan of the Yanks rotation this year. Pineda has some development but I am a fan. Kuroda is about as consistent as it gets. Nova should have another good year, not going to strike out a ton of guys but will get it done and then it's down to Sweaty Freddy and Hughes.
Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
Any way we can trade AJ and keep the wife?
why? can she pitch?
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Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
No thanks on Hafner. Would rather they roll the dice on Pirates prospects than 80 games of mediocre, immobile production. I haven't heard any names from the Pirates system being floated. Maybe they'll roll the dice on Stetson Allie?
Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
No thanks on Hafner. Would rather they roll the dice on Pirates prospects than 80 games of mediocre, immobile production. I haven't heard any names from the Pirates system being floated. Maybe they'll roll the dice on Stetson Allie?
Pirates are no names. Two non 40 man roster prospects described as "meh". Yanks aren't getting anything worthwhile back.
Heyman is saying that Cleveland is one of the other teams interested in Burnett. The Yankees would do a Burnett/Hafner swap but the Indians may not want to give him up for AJ.
The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
No thanks on Hafner. Would rather they roll the dice on Pirates prospects than 80 games of mediocre, immobile production. I haven't heard any names from the Pirates system being floated. Maybe they'll roll the dice on Stetson Allie?
Pirates are no names. Two non 40 man roster prospects described as "meh". Yanks aren't getting anything worthwhile back.
Then what's the point in pushing to trade him? Despite his issues, you're all but guaranteed 180 innings of mediocre production with the upside of a #2 if he happened to get his head straight. That has value and I'd much rather gamble on that than save $10-15 million and get a bag of balls in return.
Then what's the point in pushing to trade him? Despite his issues, you're all but guaranteed 180 innings of mediocre production with the upside of a #2 if he happened to get his head straight. That has value and I'd much rather gamble on that than save $10-15 million and get a bag of balls in return.
That's just it. Too much pitching and money for a lefty dh to platoon with Jones. I'm sure they are really hoping for Hughes to take the 5th spot, then AJ would be a $16.5 middle reliever and pretty much the 4th-6th reliever off the bench.
Once they got Kuroda you knew they were thinking of getting rid of AJ. Hughes has more upside and Garcia is a spot starter. If AJ was the 5th starter okay but he's being paid as a #1 or 2. No matter what happens in spring training Hughes needs to get the 5th spot. They can't keep toying with him and putting him in the bullpen. He needs the innings.
Then what's the point in pushing to trade him? Despite his issues, you're all but guaranteed 180 innings of mediocre production with the upside of a #2 if he happened to get his head straight. That has value and I'd much rather gamble on that than save $10-15 million and get a bag of balls in return.
That's just it. Too much pitching and money for a lefty dh to platoon with Jones. I'm sure they are really hoping for Hughes to take the 5th spot, then AJ would be a $16.5 middle reliever and pretty much the 4th-6th reliever off the bench.
The salary's a sunk cost. If they can't get more back than a warm body, hang onto him for rotation depth. I've heard lots of allusions to his makeup, but am really curious about what his off-the-field issues entail.
The salary's a sunk cost. If they can't get more back than a warm body, hang onto him for rotation depth. I've heard lots of allusions to his makeup, but am really curious about what his off-the-field issues entail.
AJ seems like a pretty good guy from everything you see and hear, I think the whole black eye thing came from an altercation with Eiland who rumors are had a serious alcohol problem.
I think the sunk cost aspect is why they need to trade him and take whatever they can get. At least that way they'll decrease the cost somewhat. The money isn't the issue with him. The problem is that he's literally the worst starter in baseball over the past 2 season among guys with enough innings to qualify for the ERA title in each year. Only Lackey has a higher combined ERA over the past 2 seasons Just slightly) but he 2010 ERA was 4.40 so he only passed him due to his amazingly bad 2011. AJ's the only starter in MLB to put up a 5.00 ERA or worse each of the past 2 years. Having him on the roster isn't just costing them money, it's costing them wins and causing them to overuse the bullpen because he averaged less than 6 IP per start and usually left the game with multiple runners on base. Not to mention the fact that he's led the league in wild pitches 2 of the last 3 seasons and led the league in hitting batters the only season he didn't lead the league in wild pitches (and even then he only had 1 less wild pitch than he did the year before). Getting rid of him can only make the team better because they're removing a negative performer. If he wasn't making as much money as he is they would have just released him and been done with it. If a situation arises where they have 2 injured starters, it's a pretty safe bet that whoever gets the call from AAA will be better than he's been over the last 2 seasons.
As for the attitude issues, his childish reactions to being yanked from games in the 5th inning last year are a big reason why he's no longer viewed as a positive guy to have around. He'd get pulled in the 5th inning with a slim lead but 2-3 runners on base in the middle of another one of his endless string of mid-game meltdowns and he acted like Girardi was trying to prevent him from getting credited with the win as if that's more important than preventing him from blowing another lead.
The salary's a sunk cost. If they can't get more back than a warm body, hang onto him for rotation depth. I've heard lots of allusions to his makeup, but am really curious about what his off-the-field issues entail.
Fow what it's worth, Jim Bowden says a deal with the Pirates should be done within the next 24 hours and that the Yankees are weighing one other offer for AJ from another team. Of course, Bowden also said his sources told him Kuroda was going to take Boston's offer and that didn't happen.
edit: I just saw that Buster Olney also says that the talks with Pittsburgh are moving ahead but another team made a proposal yesterday that NY is also considering. He doesn't say what team made the offer, just that it's not Cleveland.
I think the sunk cost aspect is why they need to trade him and take whatever they can get. At least that way they'll decrease the cost somewhat. The money isn't the issue with him. The problem is that he's literally the worst starter in baseball over the past 2 season among guys with enough innings to qualify for the ERA title in each year. Only Lackey has a higher combined ERA over the past 2 seasons Just slightly) but he 2010 ERA was 4.40 so he only passed him due to his amazingly bad 2011. AJ's the only starter in MLB to put up a 5.00 ERA or worse each of the past 2 years. Having him on the roster isn't just costing them money, it's costing them wins and causing them to overuse the bullpen because he averaged less than 6 IP per start and usually left the game with multiple runners on base. Not to mention the fact that he's led the league in wild pitches 2 of the last 3 seasons and led the league in hitting batters the only season he didn't lead the league in wild pitches (and even then he only had 1 less wild pitch than he did the year before). Getting rid of him can only make the team better because they're removing a negative performer. If he wasn't making as much money as he is they would have just released him and been done with it. If a situation arises where they have 2 injured starters, it's a pretty safe bet that whoever gets the call from AAA will be better than he's been over the last 2 seasons.
As for the attitude issues, his childish reactions to being yanked from games in the 5th inning last year are a big reason why he's no longer viewed as a positive guy to have around. He'd get pulled in the 5th inning with a slim lead but 2-3 runners on base in the middle of another one of his endless string of mid-game meltdowns and he acted like Girardi was trying to prevent him from getting credited with the win as if that's more important than preventing him from blowing another lead.
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I actually think he'll do really well in Pittsburgh. The switch to a soft hitting league (which lost two of its best hitters) in a pitcher friendly park with a lot less pressure will help him a lot. I could see him putting up some really good numbers. I hope he does.
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I can't wait to watch him pitch. Love a consistent pitcher like that.
First news of today. If the Yankees save that much money and get anything in return, that's impressive.
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I am a big fan of the Yanks rotation this year. Pineda has some development but I am a fan. Kuroda is about as consistent as it gets. Nova should have another good year, not going to strike out a ton of guys but will get it done and then it's down to Sweaty Freddy and Hughes.
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The Angels were looking into a deal, too, but every West Coast team is on AJ's no-trade list because his wife is from Maryland and doesn't like to fly.
Any way we can trade AJ and keep the wife?
why? can she pitch?
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No thanks on Hafner. Would rather they roll the dice on Pirates prospects than 80 games of mediocre, immobile production. I haven't heard any names from the Pirates system being floated. Maybe they'll roll the dice on Stetson Allie?
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Pirates are no names. Two non 40 man roster prospects described as "meh". Yanks aren't getting anything worthwhile back.
Then what's the point in pushing to trade him? Despite his issues, you're all but guaranteed 180 innings of mediocre production with the upside of a #2 if he happened to get his head straight. That has value and I'd much rather gamble on that than save $10-15 million and get a bag of balls in return.
That's just it. Too much pitching and money for a lefty dh to platoon with Jones. I'm sure they are really hoping for Hughes to take the 5th spot, then AJ would be a $16.5 middle reliever and pretty much the 4th-6th reliever off the bench.
The salary's a sunk cost. If they can't get more back than a warm body, hang onto him for rotation depth. I've heard lots of allusions to his makeup, but am really curious about what his off-the-field issues entail.
AJ seems like a pretty good guy from everything you see and hear, I think the whole black eye thing came from an altercation with Eiland who rumors are had a serious alcohol problem.
As for the attitude issues, his childish reactions to being yanked from games in the 5th inning last year are a big reason why he's no longer viewed as a positive guy to have around. He'd get pulled in the 5th inning with a slim lead but 2-3 runners on base in the middle of another one of his endless string of mid-game meltdowns and he acted like Girardi was trying to prevent him from getting credited with the win as if that's more important than preventing him from blowing another lead.
edit: I just saw that Buster Olney also says that the talks with Pittsburgh are moving ahead but another team made a proposal yesterday that NY is also considering. He doesn't say what team made the offer, just that it's not Cleveland.
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