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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    igotid88 wrote:
    something tells he Pettitte will come back in June instead of April.

    That's what I am thinking. Hopefully May though. Let's just hope Waldman can keep it under control this time.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    tcaporale wrote:
    Apparently the Yanks are going for Justin Duchscherer now?

    Looks like all of the potential starters they're looking into have had injury problems the last few years.

    There's gotta be someone who's healthy out there.

    I was gonna post this. He is pretty good if healthy.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,188
    Newch91 wrote:
    Imagine if Pryor does great in the minors, gets called up, and has a resurgence in his career and dominates in the majors.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    igotid88 wrote:
    something tells he Pettitte will come back in June instead of April.


    Why? whada know?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Um....so the Yanks just brought a garbage truck full of money to Soriano. Not sure I get the 3 years but wow.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    And now this opens another gigantic question. What in gods name is Jobas role on this team? 7th inning? Trade bait? Doubt anyone here will agree with me but I hope they give him a shot at the rotation this year. Otherwise they have to trade him.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And now this opens another gigantic question. What in gods name is Jobas role on this team? 7th inning? Trade bait? Doubt anyone here will agree with me but I hope they give him a shot at the rotation this year. Otherwise they have to trade him.
    Yeah...they're most likely going to have him in the rotation.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Nice! Screw it we got the $$$.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Newch91 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    And now this opens another gigantic question. What in gods name is Jobas role on this team? 7th inning? Trade bait? Doubt anyone here will agree with me but I hope they give him a shot at the rotation this year. Otherwise they have to trade him.
    Yeah...they're most likely going to have him in the rotation.

    Only option. He has no value in the bullpen. I like it if it means he has a shot at the rotation. I mean the bullpen is already strong with robertson, feliciano, soriano and mo. Give Joba another shot at the rotation.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Nice! Screw it we got the $$$.

    Heyman says they still have $20 million to spend on this season :lol::lol::lol:
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,001
    igotid88 wrote:
    something tells he Pettitte will come back in June instead of April.


    Why? whada know?

    just a gut feeling. don't know anything for a fact.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    The Fixer wrote:
    tcaporale wrote:
    Apparently the Yanks are going for Justin Duchscherer now?

    Looks like all of the potential starters they're looking into have had injury problems the last few years.

    There's gotta be someone who's healthy out there.

    I was gonna post this. He is pretty good if healthy.

    Huge if
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    igotid88 wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    something tells he Pettitte will come back in June instead of April.


    Why? whada know?

    just a gut feeling. don't know anything for a fact.


    hey i'll take it man
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    I repeat. Move Joba back to the rotation now.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I repeat. Move Joba back to the rotation now.

    Really?!
    He scares me. I think he was lucky those first few years.
    But then again, you are the Yankee guru! :)
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I repeat. Move Joba back to the rotation now.

    Really?!
    He scares me. I think he was lucky those first few years.
    But then again, you are the Yankee guru! :)

    He is useless in the bullpen now. He won't touch the 8th inning and depending on matchups he might not touch the 7th inning. Give him a shot at the rotation or trade him. Nothing else to do. He's only 26, he still has a lot of time to develop. Yankees have an extremely strong bullpen with out without him and a pretty weak rotation, give him a shot.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,848
    WOW!! $35 MIL for Soriano? For a non-closer? I guess thats what one good year gets you. Good for Soriano, as the Yanks have the $$$$$$$.

    Not sure Chamberlain is made for the long haul(starter). I think he'll get exposed as a starter.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I repeat. Move Joba back to the rotation now.

    Really?!
    He scares me. I think he was lucky those first few years.
    But then again, you are the Yankee guru! :)

    He is useless in the bullpen now. He won't touch the 8th inning and depending on matchups he might not touch the 7th inning. Give him a shot at the rotation or trade him. Nothing else to do. He's only 26, he still has a lot of time to develop. Yankees have an extremely strong bullpen with out without him and a pretty weak rotation, give him a shot.


    Joba-W.W.E., whada think? how much will Vince gives us?
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I repeat. Move Joba back to the rotation now.

    Really?!
    He scares me. I think he was lucky those first few years.
    But then again, you are the Yankee guru! :)

    He is useless in the bullpen now. He won't touch the 8th inning and depending on matchups he might not touch the 7th inning. Give him a shot at the rotation or trade him. Nothing else to do. He's only 26, he still has a lot of time to develop. Yankees have an extremely strong bullpen with out without him and a pretty weak rotation, give him a shot.

    yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
    I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Really?!
    He scares me. I think he was lucky those first few years.
    But then again, you are the Yankee guru! :)

    He is useless in the bullpen now. He won't touch the 8th inning and depending on matchups he might not touch the 7th inning. Give him a shot at the rotation or trade him. Nothing else to do. He's only 26, he still has a lot of time to develop. Yankees have an extremely strong bullpen with out without him and a pretty weak rotation, give him a shot.


    Joba-W.W.E., whada think? how much will Vince gives us?

    haha, I can see him with a black mask and pink jumpsuit! :D
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,001
    what if they trade Robertson instead?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
    I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

    haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    igotid88 wrote:
    what if they trade Robertson instead?

    Good question. Didn't think about it. Think Joba will fetch a lot more in a trade though, he has 4 pitches and is still young and has a lot more potential.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
    I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

    haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.

    Hey Cliffy, btw, Idont know if I ever said (if it was you), thanks for posting that minor league summary report. was that you?! it was awesome. i forwarded that to a few of my pals. I wonder if its too soon to say, but what do you expect to see from those prospects this year? come on spring!...
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,001
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    what if they trade Robertson instead?

    Good question. Didn't think about it. Think Joba will fetch a lot more in a trade though, he has 4 pitches and is still young and has a lot more potential.

    i thought his stock went down. I would like to see him get another chance at starting. But didn't he lose like 5 or 6mph on his fastball when he was starting.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    yeah, I can see that. more I think about it, didnt he get better after he warmed up for an inning or two?
    I guess that would render him useless in the pen if he needs an inning to warm up and feel the zone.

    haha, yeah. They had him throw a simulated inning in the bullpen before games. I always wanted him in the rotation. I don't think you put someone with that good stuff in the bullpen to start their career. Give him a shot at the rotation and if it doesn't work, oh well.

    Hey Cliffy, btw, Idont know if I ever said (if it was you), thanks for posting that minor league summary report. was that you?! it was awesome. i forwarded that to a few of my pals. I wonder if its too soon to say, but what do you expect to see from those prospects this year? come on spring!...

    The Fixer (from the Phillies thread) posts a lot of minor league stuff and adds to this thread. I have definitely posted some minor league stuff but if it was a full report, chances are it was him. We will defintely see some of them this year, no doubt. Montero will start the year in Triple A but I assume will be up mid season (especially since Romine needs time in Triple A), depending on how Martin plays. I think Brackman will be up this year as well. I think Becantes and Banuelos will probably stick in Triple A for this year. Going to be a lot of fun seeing these kids come up.

    The whole world is obviously excited for Montero, but I am really excited for Brackman, I think he has a real shot to be a front end starter.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    igotid88 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    what if they trade Robertson instead?

    Good question. Didn't think about it. Think Joba will fetch a lot more in a trade though, he has 4 pitches and is still young and has a lot more potential.

    i thought his stock went down. I would like to see him get another chance at starting. But didn't he lose like 5 or 6mph on his fastball when he was starting.

    Yeah, I mean his stock is definitely down, but the guy still has a shit load of potential. He definitely lost velocity when starting, but any pitcher would. You are talking 100-120 pitches vs. 20-30. If he can learn how to "pitch" a bit better he will be just fine. As a starter with his other pitches all he needs is a 93 mph fast ball and not 96-97, as long as he can get more consistent with his other stuff.

    I love this signing if it means he goes back to the rotation, although Chad Jennings is saying they haven't talked about moving him back to the rotation (keep in mind he also said he wasn't losing his draft pick).
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    edited January 2011
    The Yankees did pay way to much for Soriano but the dude had better numbers than Mo last year. If he has a great year, there's a good chance he opts out and the Yanks get that pick back.

    Plus as BinuralJam said, they have the money to spend.

    Edit: And I was reading a lot of people had a problem with giving the Rays so many picks (they now have 9 before the 2nd round starts in a loaded draft), but I just read a good point that they were going to get them from somewhere since Soriano was eventually going to sign and he has a lot more value to the Yankees than a draft pick.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,001
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Yankees did pay way to much for Soriano but the dude had better numbers than Mo last year. If he has a great year, there's a good chance he opts out and the Yanks get that pick back.

    Plus as BinuralJam said, they have the money to spend.

    he wasn't that much better than Mo. And it's a 40 year old vs a 31 year old.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    igotid88 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Yankees did pay way to much for Soriano but the dude had better numbers than Mo last year. If he has a great year, there's a good chance he opts out and the Yanks get that pick back.

    Plus as BinuralJam said, they have the money to spend.

    he wasn't that much better than Mo. And it's a 40 year old vs a 31 year old.

    I am not criticizing Mo, their numbers were basically identical. Point is, the Yanks now have possibly the 2 best closers in the game in their bullpen. Plus as you said, Mo is 40, so it can't hurt to have some insurance, even though the dude is Superman. It's just a lot of money to pay a reliver not named Rivera. Like I said, I am find with it. They clearly have the money and Cashman obviously knows their budget better than we do.
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