Backspacer sales numbers?

BF25394

ScottBravesFan wrote:

It's actually did well as seeing most people just download records now. I don't know many people that still buy music from stores, almost everyone I tell about new music to check out they just go and download it illegally.

I don't know how many times I have to knock this down, but I'll try again. Your assertion is not true. The vast majority of music downloading is done legally via iTunes and similar services. As I have noted before, you probably don't know many people who watch "NCIS," but "NCIS" is the number one show on television. It's not reliable to project widespread patterns of behavior based on your self-selected circle of acquaintances.

Also isn't the Itunes downloads on another chart? I don't think they count in regular CD sales.

iTunes downloads are included in The Billboard 200.

BF25394

ScottBravesFan wrote:

BF25394 wrote:

Veddernarian wrote:

Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.

The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.

Does your Best Buy no longer sell CD's? The one here does and every other one I have been to sells CDs. Hell the one here even has some vinyl it sells.

I was being facetious. They have cut back the space they devote to physical music product.

Veddernarian

Looks like (hitsdailydouble) there's a pretty good bump for the Thanksgiving week.

The Juggler

Veddernarian wrote:

Looks like (hitsdailydouble) there's a pretty good bump for the Thanksgiving week.

about 11k with 54% reporting thus far...

GTHobbes

Which is good enough for #49 on the chart...not bad at all. The bump from the 90s to #49 must be due to Just Breathe catching on. Regardless, it's nice to see.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

T-Bone 82

GTHobbes wrote:

Which is good enough for #49 on the chart...not bad at all. The bump from the 90s to #49 must be due to Just Breathe catching on. Regardless, it's nice to see.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

More likely the fact that Target lowered the price to $6.50 for black Friday and Saturday too, I believe.

William Wallace

Final:
#43 with sales of 24.500 copies.
Great result!

elderman

@#43 with almost 25k.....what happened?

William Wallace

elderman wrote:

@#43 with almost 25k.....what happened?

On Sale at Target for $6,50.

wnh1977

It sounds like Backspacer had a good bump this week... any idea how many it's sold since released? Is it closing in on 400,000 yet?

William Wallace

Around 383.000 copies yet.

The Juggler

mr.igby wrote:

Final:
#43 with sales of 24.500 copies.
Great result!

that's a solid bounce back.

i just do not understand why they chose not to do any tv shows around release time. conan 3 months prior? acl 2 months after?

if they would have followed something more similar to avocado's model, they would be gold certified at this point........and that would be WITHOUT working with THE Bruce Dickinson.

BF25394

The Jeagler wrote:

mr.igby wrote:

Final:
#43 with sales of 24.500 copies.
Great result!

that's a solid bounce back.

i just do not understand why they chose not to do any tv shows around release time. conan 3 months prior? acl 2 months after?

if they would have followed something more similar to avocado's model, they would be gold certified at this point........and that would be WITHOUT working with THE Bruce Dickinson.

Certification and sales are two different animals. They have already shipped enough copies of the record to be certified gold, perhaps even platinum (if Target really did buy 1 million copies). They have to ask for, and pay for, the certification. Usually, the record company handles this. It's not clear that there's anyone to do this at "Monkeywrench Records."

wnh1977

Backspacer officially clocked in at #45 in its tenth week of release on the Billboard 200 chart.

William Wallace

Just an interesting number:

Out of the 392.964 copies sold from Backspacer, 99.882 were digital album downloads.
So there were 293.000 physical copies (CD, Vinyl) sold yet.

elderman

mr.igby wrote:

Out of the 392.964 copies sold from Backspacer, 99.882 were digital album downloads.
So there were 293.000 physical copies (CD, Vinyl) sold yet.

Man, where do you get these figures?
Earlier in the year I noticed "PJ" was coming up to "Binaural" sales, do you have the current ones?

davidtrios

it went from 45 to 134 on the Billboard chart :?

Mad Mohab

There used to be someone on here before it became a pay site that would post sales for this week, last and in total for EVERY Pearl Jam release. It included all of the singles and Merkinball, which still sell in small amounts which was awesome to see. I think I got on there by buying old singles at major stores with soundscan.

Maybe the poster got tired of it becuase every one would ask to see the rundown on other favourite bands, but thanks again to whomever it was.

Another thing, how does international sales work? I would love to see worldwide figures.

William Wallace

elderman wrote:

Man, where do you get these figures?
Earlier in the year I noticed "PJ" was coming up to "Binaural" sales, do you have the current ones?

Hi.
You can find some figures here:
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

I don't know the Binaural sales, but it should be around 800.000 I guess.
I know RVM sold 992.610 copies since its release.

Veddernarian

Mad Mohab wrote:

There used to be someone on here before it became a pay site that would post sales for this week, last and in total for EVERY Pearl Jam release. It included all of the singles and Merkinball, which still sell in small amounts which was awesome to see. I think I got on there by buying old singles at major stores with soundscan.

Maybe the poster got tired of it becuase every one would ask to see the rundown on other favourite bands, but thanks again to whomever it was.

Another thing, how does international sales work? I would love to see worldwide figures.

His name was UpHereSoHigh or something like that and he had access to this info based on his job. He changed jobs and lost access to this information. That's my understanding.