Backspacer sales numbers?

igotid88

looks like this week will be the first time it will go up in sales.According to Streetpulse it's selling 1.3% better than last week. On Wednesday it was -64%. Thursday went up to -34% and on Friday it went up to -13%.

Given to...

I am hoping the shopping season does some good for sales.

I for one dont give a rats if anyone else buys it though. I wanna keep it all to myself anyway, but the band deserves some rewards for such a good album. I have trying my best to keep them in silk pajamas lately with the boots and 10c hoodies and hat.

vedder_soup

dropped another 2 to 17 in Australia

igotid88

igotid88 wrote:

looks like this week will be the first time it will go up in sales.According to Streetpulse it's selling 1.3% better than last week. On Wednesday it was -64%. Thursday went up to -34% and on Friday it went up to -13%.

up 6.9%

wnh1977

igotid88 wrote:

up 6.9%

Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.

MoonTurtle

target I went to 2 wks after release was playing the video on loop, lol, I was disturbed by it.

Karts

Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.

BF25394

Karts wrote:

Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.

Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.

igotid88

wnh1977 wrote:

igotid88 wrote:

up 6.9%

Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.

Starting with 11-16 Billboard 200 chart. They will now include back catalogs and reissues. So now the charts will actually reflect who's in the right position. Like when the Ten reissue was the 5th most sold in its opening week. But it wasn't in the Top 200.

igotid88

BF25394 wrote:

Karts wrote:

Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.

Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.

up 13.4%.

glb

are they going to release a 2nd single. I see they just put up the Just Breathe widget.... could that be an indication???

igotid88

glb wrote:

are they going to release a 2nd single. I see they just put up the Just Breathe widget.... could that be an indication???

it's already been released for a couple of weeks now. It's doing pretty well.

goat

week #7 10,707 for a total of 340,238
number 49 on hits daily double

BF25394

igotid88 wrote:

BF25394 wrote:

Karts wrote:

Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.

Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.

up 13.4%.

Hits Daily Double's final numbers have it down 12%.

igotid88

BF25394 wrote:

up 13.4%.[/quote]

Hits Daily Double's final numbers have it down 12%.[/quote]

yea that's a bummer. maybe it will be when Hits had Barbra Streisand at #2. But Billboard put her at #1. and 3,000 or so units haven't been counted.

BF25394

I don't know what accounts for the discrepancies between HDD and Billboard (aside from the catalog issue, which will be moot in a couple of weeks). I have a feeling that HDD reports raw data that is subsequently audited and refined by Nielsen SoundScan (e.g., to weed out duplicate reporting) to generate what goes into The Billboard 200.

Once The Billboard 200 is published tomorrow, I will update the "Chart Longevity" post with 7th-week data.

Veddernarian

Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.

BF25394

Veddernarian wrote:

Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.

The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.

jordan k

BF25394 wrote:

Veddernarian wrote:

Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.

The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.

See now this I didnt know, are those number for sure including Itunes and the like?

igotid88

Nominees for the Grammy's are going to be announce next month. I hope they get rock album and rock song at least. that could boost sales.