looks like this week will be the first time it will go up in sales.According to Streetpulse it's selling 1.3% better than last week. On Wednesday it was -64%. Thursday went up to -34% and on Friday it went up to -13%.
I am hoping the shopping season does some good for sales.
I for one dont give a rats if anyone else buys it though. I wanna keep it all to myself anyway, but the band deserves some rewards for such a good album. I have trying my best to keep them in silk pajamas lately with the boots and 10c hoodies and hat.
looks like this week will be the first time it will go up in sales.According to Streetpulse it's selling 1.3% better than last week. On Wednesday it was -64%. Thursday went up to -34% and on Friday it went up to -13%.
Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.
Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.
Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.
Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.
Starting with 11-16 Billboard 200 chart. They will now include back catalogs and reissues. So now the charts will actually reflect who's in the right position. Like when the Ten reissue was the 5th most sold in its opening week. But it wasn't in the Top 200.
Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.
Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.
week #7 10,707 for a total of 340,238
number 49 on hits daily double
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Got a shout out during the World Series Sunday game in Philly. Probably contributed to the slight gain this week.
Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.
up 13.4%.
Hits Daily Double's final numbers have it down 12%.
I don't know what accounts for the discrepancies between HDD and Billboard (aside from the catalog issue, which will be moot in a couple of weeks). I have a feeling that HDD reports raw data that is subsequently audited and refined by Nielsen SoundScan (e.g., to weed out duplicate reporting) to generate what goes into The Billboard 200.
Once The Billboard 200 is published tomorrow, I will update the "Chart Longevity" post with 7th-week data.
Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.
The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.
Let's look at it this way. Let's say its 340,238 like in the other post. Stone remarked that by selling it under the new arrangement, the band gets $5 per copy whereas in the past, it was about $1.50. If you take 340,238 and multiply it by $5, you get just over $1.7 million. Now if you take that $1.7 million and divide it by $1.50, you get 1,134,000. That 1,134,000 is the number of units they would have had to sell under the old arrangements in order to get the same $1.7 million. I think they wisely adapted to a totally different music industry where less qualtity is sold. They wisely upped the rate per unit.
The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.
See now this I didnt know, are those number for sure including Itunes and the like?
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EV Arlene Schnitzer Hall - July 14 2011, EV Benaroya Hall - July 16 2011
Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.
Starting with 11-16 Billboard 200 chart. They will now include back catalogs and reissues. So now the charts will actually reflect who's in the right position. Like when the Ten reissue was the 5th most sold in its opening week. But it wasn't in the Top 200.
So that's why I couldn't find it in the top 200 when it came out? It seems Billboard is having to change a lot of policies over the past year or so, maybe it's time they sat down and figured things out once and for all so bands can get the recognition they deserve when they deserve it.
Nominees for the Grammy's are going to be announce next month. I hope they get rock album and rock song at least. that could boost sales.
Baskspacer, the album, is ineligible as it was released after the cutoff for this year's show. The Fixer is eligible as it was released beforehand. Backspacer will be eligible for the Grammy show a year from this January. Just like Robert Plant/Alison Krauss where Gone, Gone, Gone was in the Grammy show 2 years ago, and Raising Sand, the album, was last year.
Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
Nominees for the Grammy's are going to be announce next month. I hope they get rock album and rock song at least. that could boost sales.
Baskspacer, the album, is ineligible as it was released after the cutoff for this year's show. The Fixer is eligible as it was released beforehand. Backspacer will be eligible for the Grammy show a year from this January. Just like Robert Plant/Alison Krauss where Gone, Gone, Gone was in the Grammy show 2 years ago, and Raising Sand, the album, was last year.
They must've moved the cutoff date. I remember it being Sept.
yea i just googled it. aug 31st was the cutoff date. well hopefully the fixer gets recognized. but the chance of Backspacer getting recognized for the 2011 grammys don't look good.
yea i just googled it. aug 31st was the cutoff date. well hopefully the fixer gets recognized. but the chance of Backspacer getting recognized for the 2011 grammys don't look good.
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I think there will be a surge for the holiday season. May not be much of a surge but I think there will be a surge. There used to be a guy called UpHereSoHigh (I think that was his name) who had a soundscan feed associated with his job and he used to post monthly sales for all of PJ's release. He's moved jobs and doesn't have that stuff anymore but I remember all of the releases surging during the holiday season. I'm sure somebody will buy me a copy of Backspacer knowing I'm a PJ fan, not knowing I already have 2 copies.
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Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river
yea i just googled it. aug 31st was the cutoff date. well hopefully the fixer gets recognized. but the chance of Backspacer getting recognized for the 2011 grammys don't look good.
Classic...especially Mike's "Tchhhh!" when Stone mentions Dave! :roll:
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I for one dont give a rats if anyone else buys it though. I wanna keep it all to myself anyway, but the band deserves some rewards for such a good album. I have trying my best to keep them in silk pajamas lately with the boots and 10c hoodies and hat.
I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
up 6.9%
Well, this would be a Pearl jam rarity... an album actually stopping its freefall and holding firm in the charts! If the 6.9% projected increase is right for Week 7, that would mean sales of around 13,000 this week for a grand tally of around 343,000. Maybe Backspacer can head back into the Top 40? I believe it was #43 this past week.
2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/29
Doubtful that the brief mention would drive sales. When sales get down to this kind of weekly level (i.e., less than 15,000), they become more volatile. A 7% increase may not signify anything.
Starting with 11-16 Billboard 200 chart. They will now include back catalogs and reissues. So now the charts will actually reflect who's in the right position. Like when the Ten reissue was the 5th most sold in its opening week. But it wasn't in the Top 200.
up 13.4%.
it's already been released for a couple of weeks now. It's doing pretty well.
number 49 on hits daily double
Hits Daily Double's final numbers have it down 12%.
up 13.4%.[/quote]
Hits Daily Double's final numbers have it down 12%.[/quote]
yea that's a bummer. maybe it will be when Hits had Barbra Streisand at #2. But Billboard put her at #1. and 3,000 or so units haven't been counted.
Once The Billboard 200 is published tomorrow, I will update the "Chart Longevity" post with 7th-week data.
The band's take is not contingent on retail sales, as I understand it. It has been reported that Target bought a million copies wholesale at $5.00 per copy, so the band made $5 million off the record. Target keeps whatever it gets from retail sales. For Target to break even, it needs to sell approximately 417,000 copies at $11.98 per copy. Since the 340,000 in sales includes units purchased directly from the Ten Club, as well as copies sold at independent record stores and on iTunes, it seems like Target is likely to lose money on the deal. Having said that, Target probably viewed the record as a loss leader (i.e., people come to buy the record and end up buying other stuff that they wouldn't have bought at Target otherwise-- everyone who went to Target to buy the CD and said, oh, while I'm here, I need toothpaste or garbage bags or any of the 100,000 other things Target sells). It's the same reason why Best Buy (when it sold CDs) and Wal-Mart deep discount new releases ($17.98 wholesale/$11.98 retail). They want to get you into the store in the hopes that you'll keep shopping while you're there.
See now this I didnt know, are those number for sure including Itunes and the like?
EV Arlene Schnitzer Hall - July 14 2011, EV Benaroya Hall - July 16 2011
So that's why I couldn't find it in the top 200 when it came out? It seems Billboard is having to change a lot of policies over the past year or so, maybe it's time they sat down and figured things out once and for all so bands can get the recognition they deserve when they deserve it.
Baskspacer, the album, is ineligible as it was released after the cutoff for this year's show. The Fixer is eligible as it was released beforehand. Backspacer will be eligible for the Grammy show a year from this January. Just like Robert Plant/Alison Krauss where Gone, Gone, Gone was in the Grammy show 2 years ago, and Raising Sand, the album, was last year.
They must've moved the cutoff date. I remember it being Sept.
Who cares, its the Grammys
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I think there will be a surge for the holiday season. May not be much of a surge but I think there will be a surge. There used to be a guy called UpHereSoHigh (I think that was his name) who had a soundscan feed associated with his job and he used to post monthly sales for all of PJ's release. He's moved jobs and doesn't have that stuff anymore but I remember all of the releases surging during the holiday season. I'm sure somebody will buy me a copy of Backspacer knowing I'm a PJ fan, not knowing I already have 2 copies.
Classic...especially Mike's "Tchhhh!" when Stone mentions Dave! :roll: