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Here are the lyrics to that song:
"He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight"
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I'm interested... which of the lyrics do you oppose?
Is it the "He said that all must lend a hand To make this country strong again"?
or the "He said we must be fair today Equal work means equal pay"?
maybe "He said that we must take a stand To make sure everyone gets a chance"?
I'm guessing it's "He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight".
I'm trying really hard too... what about these lyrics are super political and frightening? You could stick any president's name in there and it would apply just as well. It's as generic and meaningless as any other patriotic song.
I'm trying really hard too... what about these lyrics are super political and frightening? You could stick any president's name in there and it would apply just as well. It's as generic and meaningless as any other patriotic song.
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My guess is the chorus:
"Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama"
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Probably because they think it SHOULD be:
"Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Barack Hussein Obama"
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I'm trying really hard too... what about these lyrics are super political and frightening? You could stick any president's name in there and it would apply just as well. It's as generic and meaningless as any other patriotic song.
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My guess is the chorus:
"Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama"
...
Probably because they think it SHOULD be:
"Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Barack Hussein Obama"
ahh cosmo, the funniest dude on the intarwebs. i love you. thanks for brigtening my day
Politics in schools can be fine. But there not leaving kids to make there own choices on what they WANT to believe....There teaching them WHAT to believe.
They're teaching them to sing a song about the president of the USA. It's no different from singing God Bless America or any other patriotic nonsense. If all it takes is one song in a lame school pageant thing to hopelessly shatter the mind of your child and make them worship Obama, I think the problem is not indoctrination but poor parenting at home.
Those teachers had no right having the kids sing that song. I would be pissed to hell if I heard my child was instructed to sing those lyrics. I would not want my children singing any songs of that nature. Many people have completely different views than Obama. Their child, as with all children, should not be brainwashed with that kind of garbage. I can think of plenty of other ideas for songs that are educational. Your right, the problem is poor parenting- do to the breakup of the family. But don't worry, the government under Obama plans on taking control of everything. That way we can stay dependent on "the Man."
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Here are the lyrics to that song:
"He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight"
...
I'm interested... which of the lyrics do you oppose?
Is it the "He said that all must lend a hand To make this country strong again"?
or the "He said we must be fair today Equal work means equal pay"?
maybe "He said that we must take a stand To make sure everyone gets a chance"?
I'm guessing it's "He said red, yellow, black or white, All are equal in his sight".
I never said I oppose this song. I said I oppose the movie "STUFF" that is being shown in classrooms because it's full of lies. I put these videos on to try to help with an arguement between prfctleft and someone else. Personally, I don't really see the big deal, I think the couple of parents that are upset about it are radical rights. If I did oppose this song earlier i got confused between this song and the movie. Now go ahead....I know a remark about being confused is coming.
would you be referring to me?
if you are i have no idea what your point is...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Politics in schools can be fine. But there not leaving kids to make there own choices on what they WANT to believe....There teaching them WHAT to believe.
They're teaching them to sing a song about the president of the USA. It's no different from singing God Bless America or any other patriotic nonsense. If all it takes is one song in a lame school pageant thing to hopelessly shatter the mind of your child and make them worship Obama, I think the problem is not indoctrination but poor parenting at home.
Those teachers had no right having the kids sing that song. I would be pissed to hell if I heard my child was instructed to sing those lyrics. I would not want my children singing any songs of that nature. Many people have completely different views than Obama. Their child, as with all children, should not be brainwashed with that kind of garbage. I can think of plenty of other ideas for songs that are educational. Your right, the problem is poor parenting- do to the breakup of the family. But don't worry, the government under Obama plans on taking control of everything. That way we can stay dependent on "the Man."
please indulge me for a minute. what lines in that song do you find so offensive and why? you say that obama is going to take over everything, an irrational fear based on nothing other than fox news stories, so i was wondering if the lyrics about everyone being equal has you equally scared.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Those teachers had no right having the kids sing that song. I would be pissed to hell if I heard my child was instructed to sing those lyrics. I would not want my children singing any songs of that nature. Many people have completely different views than Obama. Their child, as with all children, should not be brainwashed with that kind of garbage. I can think of plenty of other ideas for songs that are educational. Your right, the problem is poor parenting- do to the breakup of the family. But don't worry, the government under Obama plans on taking control of everything. That way we can stay dependent on "the Man."
That was pretty uncalled for. I wasn't attacking anyone...don't know why you felt a need to do so with me.
Because I'm an irritable asshole who's sick of dealing with crybaby conservatards.
If there is just one child whose parents do not want them to be taught that Obama is an inspirational figure, then that decision should be respected.
Oh for fuck's sake. Does that also mean that before they teach about George Washington or Plato that they should take a poll of all the parents to see how they want the education to be skewed?
2-I said the "dear leader" what most people would recognise as a reference to how children are taught to view various radical leaders, in this instance I was thinking of Fidel and Raul.
You're comparing Barrack Obama o Fidel Castro now? Jesus. :roll:
3-You can teach about government without making it political. In the sense of 'choose a side' type politics, like what is being heavily debated in this, and many other forums amoung adults.
And how is singing a song about the president "choosing a side?"
5-During the campaign, and directly after being elected, Obama kept talking about how he wanted children as young as 5 to be taught what sex is in school.
Except no... he didn't. He said that children should be taught about how to avoid sexual predators. If you want to debate, please at least open a book, Google a little and learn a few basic facts, people.
I'm not a conservative.
I was informed by someone, who is capable of discussing things without resorting to name-calling and insults, that this same school actually did do a song about thanking the Lord for Bush. Your opinion?
I had a lot more to this post, but it would just keep you going and you aren't worth my precious time.
this same school actually did do a song about thanking the Lord for Bush. Your opinion?
My opinion is that you're probably making that up.
First of all, if that was true, we'd have heard about it by now. Second, religion in a public school is inappropriate and saying that "the Lord" gave us the president would never pass the sniff test of parents.
But if they wanted to sing a song about him being president and making America better, hey.. sure.. go ahead. Kids at that age are to young to understand policy and should just learn in kid's terms what a president does.
please indulge me for a minute. what lines in that song do you find so offensive and why? you say that obama is going to take over everything, an irrational fear based on nothing other than fox news stories, so i was wondering if the lyrics about everyone being equal has you equally scared.[/quote]
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.
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I think you need to wikipedia "socialism."
Why would your work be worth more than mine if we are doing the same job? :?:
And N Korea and Iran are laughing at us because a group of schoolchildren sang "to make this country song again?
I agree, you're not paranoid. You are delusional.
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
please indulge me for a minute. what lines in that song do you find so offensive and why? you say that obama is going to take over everything, an irrational fear based on nothing other than fox news stories, so i was wondering if the lyrics about everyone being equal has you equally scared.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.[/quote]
So you're against equal work for equal pay.
Mmk.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
please indulge me for a minute. what lines in that song do you find so offensive and why? you say that obama is going to take over everything, an irrational fear based on nothing other than fox news stories, so i was wondering if the lyrics about everyone being equal has you equally scared.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.
So you're against equal work for equal pay.
Mmk.[/quote]
yeah i guess to that poster its such an injustice for women, and people of color to make equal pay for equal work....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I cant' stand this ignorance anymore... "equal pay for equal work is socialism"
the only conspiracy theory I believe in is the one about how the government is secretly dumbing down the population so we are too stupid to successfully revolt - which is much easier than using military force to control your population.
fuck me in the brain!
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.
Good God man, I thought I'd seen it all. You clearly have no idea what equal work for equal pay means. And this is why things like this need to be done in school to engage children and get them learning... so we don't have kids graduating without any knowledge of US history or world affairs like you did.
I cant' stand this ignorance anymore... "equal pay for equal work is socialism"
the only conspiracy theory I believe in is the one about how the government is secretly dumbing down the population so we are too stupid to successfully revolt - which is much easier than using military force to control your population.
fuck me in the brain!
for the last time, equal work for equal pay is not fucking socialism!! it has to do with gender and racial equity. it means that a white man, a woman, and all minority groups should receive equal pay for the doing the exact same job and that women and minorities could not be paid less or discriminated against based on gender or ethnicity. see the gender protests/movement of the 70s led in part by billie jean king. i do not feel it is a bad thing to teach our children that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.
it might also be a good thing for you to review this piece of historical legislation, which has been in place since 1964....i guess we ARE socialists..
I cant' stand this ignorance anymore... "equal pay for equal work is socialism"
the only conspiracy theory I believe in is the one about how the government is secretly dumbing down the population so we are too stupid to successfully revolt - which is much easier than using military force to control your population.
fuck me in the brain!
for the last time, equal work for equal pay is not fucking socialism!! it has to do with gender and racial equity. it means that a white man, a woman, and all minority groups should receive equal pay for the doing the exact same job and that women and minorities could not be paid less or discriminated against based on gender or ethnicity. see the gender protests/movement of the 70s led in part by billie jean king. i do not feel it is a bad thing to teach our children that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.
it might also be a good thing for you to review this piece of historical legislation, which has been in place since 1964....i guess we ARE socialists..
I cant' stand this ignorance anymore... "equal pay for equal work is socialism"
the only conspiracy theory I believe in is the one about how the government is secretly dumbing down the population so we are too stupid to successfully revolt - which is much easier than using military force to control your population.
fuck me in the brain!
for the last time, equal work for equal pay is not fucking socialism!! it has to do with gender and racial equity. it means that a white man, a woman, and all minority groups should receive equal pay for the doing the exact same job and that women and minorities could not be paid less or discriminated against based on gender or ethnicity. see the gender protests/movement of the 70s led in part by billie jean king. i do not feel it is a bad thing to teach our children that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.
it might also be a good thing for you to review this piece of historical legislation, which has been in place since 1964....i guess we ARE socialists..
Was that intended for me or the guy who I was quoting?
oops, my bad. that was for the guy you quoted and the one that quoted me in red letters. i can't work this quote feature when it says you can't quote more than three quotes...sorry for the confusion.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
The Equal Employment Act was poor economics. The proof is in the results. Females still do not make as much as males. The correlation is week. Why? Because there are other factors at play such as length of service in a company, number of leaves and average hours working. These factors are the primary reason for the difference in wages. Basic statitics can make any arguement sound good. Look at where the numbers are coming from. The difference in pay per job is not being measured. It is the average pay for each gender. The market will do a better job than the government concerning wages. Why? Because most of the difference arises from factors not associated with discrimination.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
The Equal Employment Act was poor economics. The proof is in the results. Females still do not make as much as males. The correlation is week. Why? Because there are other factors at play such as length of service in a company, number of leaves and average hours working. These factors are the primary reason for the difference in wages. Basic statitics can make any arguement sound good. Look at where the numbers are coming from. The difference in pay per job is not being measured. It is the average pay for each gender. The market will do a better job than the government concerning wages. Why? Because most of the difference arises from factors not associated with discrimination.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
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All of that is jibberish to try to explain yourself.
The bottom line is this...
A woman with the same skillset, seniority, etc... should earn the same salary as a male with the same skillset, seniority, etc... Example: A female database administrator with 22 years of experience and a college degree should earn the same salary (in the same job grade) as a male database administrator with 22 years experience and a college degree.
THAT is Equal work for Equal pay.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
The Equal Employment Act was poor economics. The proof is in the results. Females still do not make as much as males. The correlation is week. Why? Because there are other factors at play such as length of service in a company, number of leaves and average hours working. These factors are the primary reason for the difference in wages. Basic statitics can make any arguement sound good. Look at where the numbers are coming from. The difference in pay per job is not being measured. It is the average pay for each gender. The market will do a better job than the government concerning wages. Why? Because most of the difference arises from factors not associated with discrimination.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
so by what you are sayind, how is this socialism? so this applies to the song because they are telling the kids that everyone is equal and nobody, no race, no gender, no religion, is inferior or superior to the rest. i think its a good thing for the kids to learn. racism is passed from generation to generation and is learned from the family. i think the message in the song is a good thing and in no way endorses socialism or as you say conveys "weakness" to other governments.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
The Equal Employment Act was poor economics. The proof is in the results. Females still do not make as much as males. The correlation is week. Why? Because there are other factors at play such as length of service in a company, number of leaves and average hours working. These factors are the primary reason for the difference in wages. Basic statitics can make any arguement sound good. Look at where the numbers are coming from. The difference in pay per job is not being measured. It is the average pay for each gender. The market will do a better job than the government concerning wages. Why? Because most of the difference arises from factors not associated with discrimination.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
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All of that is jibberish to try to explain yourself.
The bottom line is this...
A woman with the same skillset, seniority, etc... should earn the same salary as a male with the same skillset, seniority, etc... Example: A female database administrator with 22 years of experience and a college degree should earn the same salary (in the same job grade) as a male database administrator with 22 years experience and a college degree.
THAT is Equal work for Equal pay.
What you just posted is exactly what is not being measured.
The Equal Employment Act was poor economics. The proof is in the results. Females still do not make as much as males. The correlation is week. Why? Because there are other factors at play such as length of service in a company, number of leaves and average hours working. These factors are the primary reason for the difference in wages. Basic statitics can make any arguement sound good. Look at where the numbers are coming from. The difference in pay per job is not being measured. It is the average pay for each gender. The market will do a better job than the government concerning wages. Why? Because most of the difference arises from factors not associated with discrimination.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
...
All of that is jibberish to try to explain yourself.
The bottom line is this...
A woman with the same skillset, seniority, etc... should earn the same salary as a male with the same skillset, seniority, etc... Example: A female database administrator with 22 years of experience and a college degree should earn the same salary (in the same job grade) as a male database administrator with 22 years experience and a college degree.
THAT is Equal work for Equal pay.
What you just posted is exactly what is not being measured.
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The bottom line is Equal Pay for Equal Work. How is THAT socialism?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.[/quote]
so by what you are sayind, how is this socialism? so this applies to the song because they are telling the kids that everyone is equal and nobody, no race, no gender, no religion, is inferior or superior to the rest. i think its a good thing for the kids to learn. racism is passed from generation to generation and is learned from the family. i think the message in the song is a good thing and in no way endorses socialism or as you say conveys "weakness" to other governments.[/quote]
You mentioned the legislation so I addressed it. As for the song. It has no place in public schools. I agree that the words sound good. But the idea that the government knows why their is gender inequality and how to fix it is absurd. Is it wrong to oppose the bill that this song has referenced, signed by Obama in Jan.? Is it appropriate to have impressionable children praise somebody in a public school? This is much deeper. The school was indoctrinating our children. There are definite Socialistic undertones working here. Thanks for debating with me. It was fun. Peace from the dellusional and paranoid one.
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
so by what you are sayind, how is this socialism? so this applies to the song because they are telling the kids that everyone is equal and nobody, no race, no gender, no religion, is inferior or superior to the rest. i think its a good thing for the kids to learn. racism is passed from generation to generation and is learned from the family. i think the message in the song is a good thing and in no way endorses socialism or as you say conveys "weakness" to other governments.[/quote]
You mentioned the legislation so I addressed it. As for the song. It has no place in public schools. I agree that the words sound good. But the idea that the government knows why their is gender inequality and how to fix it is absurd. Is it wrong to oppose the bill that this song has referenced, signed by Obama in Jan.? Is it appropriate to have impressionable children praise somebody in a public school? This is much deeper. The school was indoctrinating our children. There are definite Socialistic undertones working here. Thanks for debating with me. It was fun. Peace from the dellusional and paranoid one.[/quote]
i respect your point of view, but in this thread i am going to have to go ahead and respectfully disagree with you. i do not think these kids will even remember that day where they sang to obama song in grade 3. i don't even remember most things i did in high school or college. i see it as a teachable moment, not indoctrination. i enjoyed debating with you and you should come around the train more often. we need more varying points of view in this place.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I'm trying really hard too... what about these lyrics are super political and frightening? You could stick any president's name in there and it would apply just as well. It's as generic and meaningless as any other patriotic song.
My guess is the chorus:
"Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama"
...
Probably because they think it SHOULD be:
"Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Barack Hussein Obama"
Hail, Hail!!!
Those teachers had no right having the kids sing that song. I would be pissed to hell if I heard my child was instructed to sing those lyrics. I would not want my children singing any songs of that nature. Many people have completely different views than Obama. Their child, as with all children, should not be brainwashed with that kind of garbage. I can think of plenty of other ideas for songs that are educational. Your right, the problem is poor parenting- do to the breakup of the family. But don't worry, the government under Obama plans on taking control of everything. That way we can stay dependent on "the Man."
if you are i have no idea what your point is...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Geez, Paranoid much?
I'm not a conservative.
I was informed by someone, who is capable of discussing things without resorting to name-calling and insults, that this same school actually did do a song about thanking the Lord for Bush. Your opinion?
I had a lot more to this post, but it would just keep you going and you aren't worth my precious time.
I'm noticing that. It's saddening..
Uh huh. "someone."
My opinion is that you're probably making that up.
First of all, if that was true, we'd have heard about it by now. Second, religion in a public school is inappropriate and saying that "the Lord" gave us the president would never pass the sniff test of parents.
But if they wanted to sing a song about him being president and making America better, hey.. sure.. go ahead. Kids at that age are to young to understand policy and should just learn in kid's terms what a president does.
MOMMY!! People are calling me out on my made-up BS!! No Fair!!
MOMMY!! People are calling me out on my made-up BS!! No Fair!!
How does this crying to mommy quote have to do with anything?
Here is a report on what happened when Bush 41 Gave a school speech. I could not find any school song on GWB though. I don't believe there was one.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.
I think you need to wikipedia "socialism."
Why would your work be worth more than mine if we are doing the same job? :?:
And N Korea and Iran are laughing at us because a group of schoolchildren sang "to make this country song again?
I agree, you're not paranoid. You are delusional.
"Equal work means equal pay?" That is socialism. "...to make this country strong again?" The president should not be implying that we are not strong at the moment. That is a sign of weakness and that is why North Korea and Iran are laughing. I'm not paranoid. But I don't trust the government to handle my business. Is it wrong of me to question? It is not appropriate to have a song like that in schools. Why don't we start quoting clergymen? Oh, we can't.[/quote]
So you're against equal work for equal pay.
Mmk.
Mmk.[/quote]
yeah i guess to that poster its such an injustice for women, and people of color to make equal pay for equal work....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
the only conspiracy theory I believe in is the one about how the government is secretly dumbing down the population so we are too stupid to successfully revolt - which is much easier than using military force to control your population.
fuck me in the brain!
Good God man, I thought I'd seen it all. You clearly have no idea what equal work for equal pay means. And this is why things like this need to be done in school to engage children and get them learning... so we don't have kids graduating without any knowledge of US history or world affairs like you did.
it might also be a good thing for you to review this piece of historical legislation, which has been in place since 1964....i guess we ARE socialists..
http://www.eeoc.gov/types/epa.html
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Was that intended for me or the guy who I was quoting?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Socialist! :twisted:
Please don't make me out to be sexist or coldhearted. I simply have a different view on economics and the role of government. In the end, the best interest for everybody is what concerns me.
All of that is jibberish to try to explain yourself.
The bottom line is this...
A woman with the same skillset, seniority, etc... should earn the same salary as a male with the same skillset, seniority, etc... Example: A female database administrator with 22 years of experience and a college degree should earn the same salary (in the same job grade) as a male database administrator with 22 years experience and a college degree.
THAT is Equal work for Equal pay.
Hail, Hail!!!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
What you just posted is exactly what is not being measured.
The bottom line is Equal Pay for Equal Work. How is THAT socialism?
Hail, Hail!!!
so by what you are sayind, how is this socialism? so this applies to the song because they are telling the kids that everyone is equal and nobody, no race, no gender, no religion, is inferior or superior to the rest. i think its a good thing for the kids to learn. racism is passed from generation to generation and is learned from the family. i think the message in the song is a good thing and in no way endorses socialism or as you say conveys "weakness" to other governments.[/quote]
You mentioned the legislation so I addressed it. As for the song. It has no place in public schools. I agree that the words sound good. But the idea that the government knows why their is gender inequality and how to fix it is absurd. Is it wrong to oppose the bill that this song has referenced, signed by Obama in Jan.? Is it appropriate to have impressionable children praise somebody in a public school? This is much deeper. The school was indoctrinating our children. There are definite Socialistic undertones working here. Thanks for debating with me. It was fun. Peace from the dellusional and paranoid one.
You mentioned the legislation so I addressed it. As for the song. It has no place in public schools. I agree that the words sound good. But the idea that the government knows why their is gender inequality and how to fix it is absurd. Is it wrong to oppose the bill that this song has referenced, signed by Obama in Jan.? Is it appropriate to have impressionable children praise somebody in a public school? This is much deeper. The school was indoctrinating our children. There are definite Socialistic undertones working here. Thanks for debating with me. It was fun. Peace from the dellusional and paranoid one.[/quote]
i respect your point of view, but in this thread i am going to have to go ahead and respectfully disagree with you. i do not think these kids will even remember that day where they sang to obama song in grade 3. i don't even remember most things i did in high school or college. i see it as a teachable moment, not indoctrination. i enjoyed debating with you and you should come around the train more often. we need more varying points of view in this place.
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