Corporations rule the day...

chromiam

fanch75 wrote:

But white people just love to hate corporations. It doesn't matter (the context), they just hate corporations. Unless it's Apple, of course.

Fuck Apple

Its Evolution Baby

I haven't read through all of the posts so its a good chance that this was mentioned but maybe this Verizon deal was to offset some of the costs with releasing boots. It did say this was the first time they were handling the boots themselves and not through another entity like Basecamp or whomever did it in 2000 and 2003.

It doesn't sound like they are schilling anything for Verizon and I doubt we will see any Verizon stuff on stage.

To me the Band's integrety is what it always was. Just looking out for the fans.

12345AGNST1

nfanel wrote:

HopeLine®
Fans will have the opportunity to donate their old wireless phones at each stop of the tour by simply bringing no-longer-used wireless phones, batteries and accessories with them and dropping them in the HopeLine® donation area at each venue.

The first 50 people making a donation to HopeLine will receive a special Pearl Jam VIP gift bag. All Verizon Wireless customers making donations at each concert venue will receive a free Pearl Jam ringtone and ringback tone for bringing their old phones and accessories to the show.

The HopeLine® program puts the nation’s most reliable wireless network to work in communities by turning unused wireless phones into support for victims of domestic violence.

Source?

So, Pearl Jam strikes a deal with the almighty verizon wireless (which i unfortunately use) and still find a way to do something charitable. I dont see MR.Cornell doing this.

Yes people. PJ is officially a sellout, allowing their fans to give away old cell phones for a donation and getting a free PJ ringtone. Lets boycott them!!

norm

pearl jam are such assholes!!


what kinda jackoffs try new ways to distribute their music to their fans.....FUCK that pisses me off!!!!


please let's go back to the $50, mistitled, poorly produced bootlegs.....

C'MON IT'S STILL 1995!!!!


:rolleyes:

MattyJoe

http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5530460&postcount=178

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn

Be thankful there IS boots this tour and you can get them easily with 3 different options. So people are NEVER HAPPY!

JD Sal

I_Got_Shit wrote:

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

Well, I dislike all cell phone providers, but I've had Verizon for over 2 years and they offer the best reception by far in my neck of the woods. Better than Sprint, Tmobile, etc.

And regarding the rest of your rant, I think you need to stop living in 1992. It's evolution baby! It's a different time and the band is in a different place. They no longer have to step back and fade into the oblivion to avoid becoming too famous. Deals are done on their terms now and frankly I'm happy to see them becoming more accesible. Now, when Pearl Jam appears on TRL, then I might start using the 'crossover' language. But this is a positive thing, in my humble opinion.

Marie Curie

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

I haven't read through all of the posts so its a good chance that this was mentioned but maybe this Verizon deal was to offset some of the costs with releasing boots. It did say this was the first time they were handling the boots themselves and not through another entity like Basecamp or whomever did it in 2000 and 2003.

It doesn't sound like they are schilling anything for Verizon and I doubt we will see any Verizon stuff on stage.

To me the Band's integrety is what it always was. Just looking out for the fans.

That's exactly what I thought, I think that the basecamp boots weren't profitable anymore, so that's why they stopped doing them last year. Now they cut this deal with Verizon, get paid a good amount of money to do this, which enables this new bootleg program where you can get both CDs and downloads and makes everybody happy. I have absolutely no problem with this, although the press release was kinda lame, stating that the fans requested it (yeah, right... :rolleyes: )

nfanel

12345AGNST1 wrote:

Source?

So, Pearl Jam strikes a deal with the almighty verizon wireless (which i unfortunately use) and still find a way to do something charitable. I dont see MR.Cornell doing this.

Yes people. PJ is officially a sellout, allowing their fans to give away old cell phones for a donation and getting a free PJ ringtone. Lets boycott them!!

verizon. i work there.

lephty

i didn't read all the replies to the original post so i hope i am not repeating anything said.

my opinion? people need to stop worrying about bands making money. it's not like he is re-writing a song to include the word verizon in it. record labels are pretty much doomed. they should all just set up a service where bands can upload music and charge whatever for the download. even then there would be very little money made as "illegal" downloads are at this point unstoppable. with record labels being doomed or not wanting to put in an effort to support a band that's been around for about 18 years, than that band needs to figure out ways to make money.

if making a deal with verizon gets pearl jam well deserved money in there pockets and gets them exposure to have more fans, than good for them! artists need to be paid no matter what the "art" is. IMO this is just a way to "cope" with the lack of album sales due to illegal downloads. in 1992 there practically was no internet so of course things people did will have to change.

now if they did what CC did and postpone a show that was scheduled for months because quick money was able to be made elsewhere, than you could call them "sell outs".

Ledbetterman10

lephty wrote:

if making a deal with verizon gets pearl jam well deserved money in there pockets and gets them exposure to have more fans, than good for them!

it won't get them any exposure to have more fans

nfanel

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it won't get them any exposure to have more fans

how do you figure? the music is going out free to all vz wireless customers... and anyone who has downloaded anything on vcast in 2008 has a chance to win tickets to a concert....

Drew263

I_Got_Shit wrote:

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

Of course I'm happy and grateful to get the boots, but that's a source of revenue for the band as well as a service to the fans. I don't know who pushed this Verizon bullshit on them, or if it was a condition for putting out all the boots. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just another example of the band being willing to "play the game" in the last couple years. I guess I just miss the days when there was at least one band that resented being used to make money for corporate blowhards who probably think John McCain is too liberal. Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

How "progressive" of you.

lephty

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it won't get them any exposure to have more fans

eh? i am sure the verizon website will have some sort of link or promo add on it. people need to go there if they pay bills online. if anything, old fans that lost touch with PJ and thought they were long gone (there are those people out there) will hopefully have a new interest.

also, as a side note. sure they made tons of money in the past and probably still make a lot of money. what i am figuring is that even though people made tons of money, they still need to make a lot of money for upkeep on whatever it is they rightfully purchased. if each member has a mansion somewhere, than i am sure utilities and cleaning and other upkeep is quite costly. does this mean they should not need money in the future because 15 years ago they had the best album/concert sales or whatever?

IMO the band hasn't really changed, but the times have and people that are mad about the band trying something "new" wish they could go back and stay in 1993.