Corporations rule the day...

I_Got_Shit

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

Of course I'm happy and grateful to get the boots, but that's a source of revenue for the band as well as a service to the fans. I don't know who pushed this Verizon bullshit on them, or if it was a condition for putting out all the boots. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just another example of the band being willing to "play the game" in the last couple years. I guess I just miss the days when there was at least one band that resented being used to make money for corporate blowhards who probably think John McCain is too liberal. Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

ledvedderman

I_Got_Shit wrote:

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

Of course I'm happy and grateful to get the boots, but that's a source of revenue for the band as well as a service to the fans. I don't know who pushed this Verizon bullshit on them, or if it was a condition for putting out all the boots. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just another example of the band being willing to "play the game" in the last couple years. I guess I just miss the days when there was at least one band that resented being used to make money for corporate blowhards who probably think John McCain is too liberal. Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

Feel better? Because guess what? They're still going to do the Verizon thing. I guess I prefer my favorite band to be innovative and thinking towards the future to get their music to their fans...give it up

timroth

I_Got_Shit wrote:

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

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I agree.

sarah ve

I_Got_Shit wrote:

Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

That is rich

drsluggo

ledvedderman wrote:

Feel better? Because guess what? They're still going to do the Verizon thing. I guess I prefer my favorite band to be innovative and thinking towards the future to get their music to their fans...give it up

To be fair they are going to get more music to their fans without Verizon, so that's not a really fair answer...

That being said its up to them in the end, and hopefully by them doing that it saves the fans some money down the road since Verizon's sponsorship might help them diffuse some costs of merchandise or future bootleg downloads.

one can hope anyway

Ms. Haiku

I'm excited that they are embracing other avenues to get the music out, and looking at it with a

Well, we have fans from all different ages, which includes those fans that don't attend the concerts, who access music all different ways. How can we give all the fans access to the live shows in a quality format? attitude.

I don't think 1992 Eddie would punch 2008 Eddie for trying new technology . . . of course there is that typewriter always in the background . . . maybe punch is a strong word.

Of course if enough people feel the same as the OP then there would be a financial loss, and no more Verizon deals, eh? It would be interesting to see which of the 3 avenues of obtaining the shows is the most used.

Yellow Ledbelly

My input into this discussion is only to ask WHO GIVES A SHIT?

Really, all this anti-corporation stuff has grown a bit tired

ledvedderman

Newsflash to the new fans of the band. Pearl Jam are not the same band as they were 15 years ago. That's a very good thing, or we probably wouldn't have a band to get excitied for a new tour for.

As long as the band is churning out great music, doing more than their fair share for charity, and not driving around in fucking Hummers with spinners...I say we just lay off whatever decision they make.

ledvedderman

Personally, I think 2024 I_Got_Shit might punch 2008 I_Got_Shit in the throat for assuming this.

I_Got_Shit

Ms. Haiku wrote:

I'm excited that they are embracing other avenues to get the music out, and looking at it with a

Well, we have fans from all different ages, who access music all different ways. How can we give all the fans access to the live shows in a quality format, which includes those fans that don't attend the concerts? attitude.

I don't think 1992 Eddie would punch 2008 Eddie for trying new technology . . . of course there is that typewriter always in the background . . . maybe punch is a strong word.

OK, maybe not punch. But he would at least call him an asshole. And I understand what you're saying about delivering shows in various formats...but can we at least agree that watching Pearl Jam on a two-inch cell phone screen is probably not the best way to experience the music?

Yellow Ledbelly

ledvedderman wrote:

Personally, I think 2024 I_Got_Shit might punch 2008 I_Got_Shit in the throat for assuming this.

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drsluggo

I_Got_Shit wrote:

OK, maybe not punch. But he would at least call him an asshole. And I understand what you're saying about delivering shows in various formats...but can we at least agree that watching Pearl Jam on a two-inch cell phone screen is probably not the best way to experience the music?

Sure, but that would be a compltely different topic than this thread

Yellow Ledbelly

I_Got_Shit wrote:

...but can we at least agree that watching Pearl Jam on a two-inch cell phone screen is probably not the best way to experience the music?

"But some people are into that, who am I to say?"

ledvedderman

I_Got_Shit wrote:

OK, maybe not punch. But he would at least call him an asshole. And I understand what you're saying about delivering shows in various formats...but can we at least agree that watching Pearl Jam on a two-inch cell phone screen is probably not the best way to experience the music?

It probably isn't the best way, that's true...but that is how a lot of people get their music now.

People got pissed when the band started offering digital downloads, and now it's the quickest way to do it.

firecrotch23

I_Got_Shit wrote:

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

Of course I'm happy and grateful to get the boots, but that's a source of revenue for the band as well as a service to the fans. I don't know who pushed this Verizon bullshit on them, or if it was a condition for putting out all the boots. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just another example of the band being willing to "play the game" in the last couple years. I guess I just miss the days when there was at least one band that resented being used to make money for corporate blowhards who probably think John McCain is too liberal. Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

I agree with this whole sentiment, seems kind of whoreish to me, oh well, they still k

HailHailLeatherman

I_Got_Shit wrote:

I just want to acknowledge that 1992 Ed would probably punch 2008 Ed in the throat for allowing this Verizon deal to happen.

Of course I'm happy and grateful to get the boots, but that's a source of revenue for the band as well as a service to the fans. I don't know who pushed this Verizon bullshit on them, or if it was a condition for putting out all the boots. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just another example of the band being willing to "play the game" in the last couple years. I guess I just miss the days when there was at least one band that resented being used to make money for corporate blowhards who probably think John McCain is too liberal. Can we leave this Verizon shit to fucking Fall Out Boy or whatever awful shit teenagers are using to impress girls these days?

Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.

Got a big problem with what you say here...................................................................................................I never have a problem with my Verizon phone signal. :-)


I went to a movie last weekend and Verizon had a commerical with Timbaland and Fucking Chris Cornell!!!! I almost crapped myself. After seeing this stuff today I could just see Ed hawking Verizon phones in the near future.

Granted I don't have a big issue with it, but I_Got_Shit has a point here...92 Ed would punch 08 Ed in the throat (Funny stuff). You can get all high and mighty and take it as a knock against the band, but it is the f'ing truth. Deal with it.

PJ_Lukin

I am still trying to figure out how the hell they make any money at all with so few dates. It is like building a business and only opening it 2 or 3 hours a day, at night.

Lots of work to get these shows up and running. Lots of people, trucks, hotels, transportation etc...

If they have to sell a few songs over one of the most popular way of obtaining music, so be it. I won't get it that way but if it allows everyone to get to hear them. Good, I am for whatever allows them to come out and play.

PissBottleMan

I am ahead.

I am advanced.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher.

2010, watch it go to fire.

PBM

fanch75

It is not surprising that people are justifying Pearl Jam's alliance with a corporation (which are entities that white people typically despise). See, white people love to hate corporations, unless it involves something that they like. It is White Person Law. Read on.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/05/82-hating-corporations/
Stuff White People Like
#82 Hating Corporations
March 5, 2008 by clander

One of the more popular white person activities of the past fifteen years is attempting to educate others on the evils of multi-national corporations. White people love nothing more than explaining to you how Wal*Mart, McDonalds, Microsoft, Halliburton are destroying the Earth’s culture and resources.

While the growth of multi-national corporations can be attributed to a number of complex social, economic and political factors, many white people prefer to take the word of two trusted sources: No Logo and AdBusters.

Published in 2000, No Logo has been responsible for more white person “enlightenment” than any book since the burning of the library at Alexandria. By reading this one magic book, white people are able to get a full grasp on the evils of multi-national corporations and then regurgitate it to friends and family.

Advanced white people will supplement No Logo with a subscription to AdBusters, where they will learn how to subvert corporate culture and return it to the masses. Specifically, this means taking ads and redoing them to give a negative message about a product. Apparently the belief is that when other people see this ad, they will be hit with an epiphany that their entire existence has been a Matrix-style manufactured universe.

If you plan to engage in lengthy conversations or get high with white people it is recommended that you read No Logo or one issue of AdBusters. Failing that, it is acceptable to buy a copy to leave on your coffee table. When white people see it, they will recognize you as someone who can see through the advertising and has a proper perspective on life.

When engaging in a conversation about corporate evils it is important to NEVER, EVER mention Apple Computers, Target or Ikea in the same breath as the companies mentioned earlier. White people prefer to hate corporations that don’t make stuff that they like.

Following these simple steps can help you gain the trust and respect of white people in a relatively short period of time.

Yellow Ledbelly

^^ That's classic! Gold, Jerry, Gold!

sadprofessor

God forbid they try to use technology to reach more people.