Hmm...it's interesting to me that your ideals and opinions haven't changed at all in the past 16 years. I know mine sure have.
Good point.
I have become more of a social liberal as I have gotten older, but I have also gotten more agressive in building up some wealth. Everyone changes, but obviously, rebels in the public spotlight are put under the microscope.
Wow. Thanks SOLAT. NIce to know that there are some folks here who are understanding and willing to listen. Thanks...as far as gas prices...it's ridiculous! Unfortunately my car onl takes premium so 4.55 represents that price...
Wow. Thanks SOLAT. NIce to know that there are some folks here who are understanding and willing to listen. Thanks...as far as gas prices...it's ridiculous! Unfortunately my car onl takes premium so 4.55 represents that price...
No problem. In 2003, I bought a bunch of the East Coast shows I went to and traded a lot with a fan from Texas who bought a lot of shows from that region. The cool thing is we finally met at Lolla last year and we're still friends to this day.
This Verizon deal is a joke. "By requests from fans..." they are doing this???? Um, I'm pretty sure the bulk of Pearl Jam fans want more than 3 shitty songs playing out of a phone.
We wanted CD bootlegs, which thank god are back. This Verizon deal stinks like shit.
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This Verizon deal is a joke. "By requests from fans..." they are doing this???? Um, I'm pretty sure the bulk of Pearl Jam fans want more than 3 shitty songs playing out of a phone.
We wanted CD bootlegs, which thank god are back. This Verizon deal stinks like shit.
and you're getting those (cd's). the free-song-for-each-show is an added bonus. yet people will complain about anything around here....
No problem. In 2003, I bought a bunch of the East Coast shows I went to and traded a lot with a fan from Texas who bought a lot of shows from that region. The cool thing is we finally met at Lolla last year and we're still friends to this day.
People complain because we've been fans of this band for years and years and they have officially given into a useless corporation deal. You can justify it all you want. If they did a McDonalds commercial, you would justify it saying "Hey it's cool to see Ed and the boys out there again, and every time I see that commercial, I get to hear Evenflow again."
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People complain because we've been fans of this band for years and years and they have officially given into a useless corporation deal. You can justify it all you want. If they did a McDonalds commercial, you would justify it saying "Hey it's cool to see Ed and the boys out there again, and every time I see that commercial, I get to hear Evenflow again."
useless to try to spread your music and sound and voice to a younger generation of music listeners.... yeah ok.
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useless to try to spread your music and sound and voice to a younger generation of music listeners.... yeah ok.
The band should have a fucking backbone, man! You know the title of this thread...that came from one of THEIR songs ya know...
The old bootleg CD was great when it first came to be in 2000 cause it was all their own idea, spreading their music out to their fans. And they kept the prices low.
This is just some bad business deal.
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The band should have a fucking backbone, man! You know the title of this thread...that came from one of THEIR songs ya know...
The old bootleg CD was great when it first came to be in 2000 cause it was all their own idea, spreading their music out to their fans. And they kept the prices low.
This is just some bad business deal.
They retailed for 13-17 dollars at Tower Records. I bought a ton of them in 2000.
The band should have a fucking backbone, man! You know the title of this thread...that came from one of THEIR songs ya know...
The old bootleg CD was great when it first came to be in 2000 cause it was all their own idea, spreading their music out to their fans. And they kept the prices low.
This is just some bad business deal.
someone mentioned it earlier but would you consider it a good business deal if they partnered with a mom-and-pop cell phone provider? how is this deal so evil? verizon's not exactly a monopoly...
The band should have a fucking backbone, man! You know the title of this thread...that came from one of THEIR songs ya know...
The old bootleg CD was great when it first came to be in 2000 cause it was all their own idea, spreading their music out to their fans. And they kept the prices low.
This is just some bad business deal.
Uhh yeah I know...
And name me another band that is releasing live concert songs via cell phone??? So I guess this is the band's idea as well, plus one of the 3 songs EVERY night is FREE. As for prices being low, they still are for the digital download as well as the CD.
So I don't see where its a bad business deal at all....
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Fans will have the opportunity to donate their old wireless phones at each stop of the tour by simply bringing no-longer-used wireless phones, batteries and accessories with them and dropping them in the HopeLine® donation area at each venue.
The first 50 people making a donation to HopeLine will receive a special Pearl Jam VIP gift bag. All Verizon Wireless customers making donations at each concert venue will receive a free Pearl Jam ringtone and ringback tone for bringing their old phones and accessories to the show.
The HopeLine® program puts the nation’s most reliable wireless network to work in communities by turning unused wireless phones into support for victims of domestic violence.
someone mentioned it earlier but would you consider it a good business deal if they partnered with a mom-and-pop cell phone provider? how is this deal so evil? verizon's not exactly a monopoly...
In my opinion, there's only one bad thing with this whole deal - I didn't change my provider to Verizon last year like I was going to.
First Verizon gets Lost and now PJ. They're making a really compelling argument to switch providers.
People complain because we've been fans of this band for years and years and they have officially given into a useless corporation deal. You can justify it all you want. If they did a McDonalds commercial, you would justify it saying "Hey it's cool to see Ed and the boys out there again, and every time I see that commercial, I get to hear Evenflow again."
But still no one has really explained how signing up with Verizon is any different then signing up with a major label like they did when they first formed? If the Verizon thing is a "usless corporation deal" why isn't their former contract with Epic/Sony (Sony is a massive corporation) also considered a "usless corporation deal". And it is not like Pearl Jam was every some underground indie garage band. Their first album was Ten (not their major label debut, their actual first album).
$4 GAS? How about $4.55 here in Seattle. Thats nothing to cry about? Hmm..maybe I am not lucky enough to have whatever job you have bc thats a BIG deal. I haven't bought an album for 10years anyways so once again, sorry for expressing my opinion on this issue. GO PEARL JAM!
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I'm not surprized you missed the point. All you focus on is gasoline.
The point being... 17 dollars today is not the same as 17 dollars 16 years ago. Or... 17 dollars in 2008 does not go as far as 17 dollars did in 1992.
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And name me another band that is releasing live concert songs via cell phone??? So I guess this is the band's idea as well, plus one of the 3 songs EVERY night is FREE. As for prices being low, they still are for the digital download as well as the CD.
So I don't see where its a bad business deal at all....
Look I'm not complaining about the cost.
When you put the name of your company next to your band, you now have a sponsor.
Remember the Sponsored by No One 1995 Tour?
Welcome to the Pearl Jam: Sponsored by V-Cast by Verizon 2008 Tour.
I guess this is how they make money on a year with no new album.
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I haven't read through all of the posts so its a good chance that this was mentioned but maybe this Verizon deal was to offset some of the costs with releasing boots. It did say this was the first time they were handling the boots themselves and not through another entity like Basecamp or whomever did it in 2000 and 2003.
It doesn't sound like they are schilling anything for Verizon and I doubt we will see any Verizon stuff on stage.
To me the Band's integrety is what it always was. Just looking out for the fans.
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Fans will have the opportunity to donate their old wireless phones at each stop of the tour by simply bringing no-longer-used wireless phones, batteries and accessories with them and dropping them in the HopeLine® donation area at each venue.
The first 50 people making a donation to HopeLine will receive a special Pearl Jam VIP gift bag. All Verizon Wireless customers making donations at each concert venue will receive a free Pearl Jam ringtone and ringback tone for bringing their old phones and accessories to the show.
The HopeLine® program puts the nation’s most reliable wireless network to work in communities by turning unused wireless phones into support for victims of domestic violence.
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So, Pearl Jam strikes a deal with the almighty verizon wireless (which i unfortunately use) and still find a way to do something charitable. I dont see MR.Cornell doing this.
Yes people. PJ is officially a sellout, allowing their fans to give away old cell phones for a donation and getting a free PJ ringtone. Lets boycott them!!
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Oh, and one more thing: Verizon's reception blows. I have one bar like all the time.
Well, I dislike all cell phone providers, but I've had Verizon for over 2 years and they offer the best reception by far in my neck of the woods. Better than Sprint, Tmobile, etc.
And regarding the rest of your rant, I think you need to stop living in 1992. It's evolution baby! It's a different time and the band is in a different place. They no longer have to step back and fade into the oblivion to avoid becoming too famous. Deals are done on their terms now and frankly I'm happy to see them becoming more accesible. Now, when Pearl Jam appears on TRL, then I might start using the 'crossover' language. But this is a positive thing, in my humble opinion.
I haven't read through all of the posts so its a good chance that this was mentioned but maybe this Verizon deal was to offset some of the costs with releasing boots. It did say this was the first time they were handling the boots themselves and not through another entity like Basecamp or whomever did it in 2000 and 2003.
It doesn't sound like they are schilling anything for Verizon and I doubt we will see any Verizon stuff on stage.
To me the Band's integrety is what it always was. Just looking out for the fans.
That's exactly what I thought, I think that the basecamp boots weren't profitable anymore, so that's why they stopped doing them last year. Now they cut this deal with Verizon, get paid a good amount of money to do this, which enables this new bootleg program where you can get both CDs and downloads and makes everybody happy. I have absolutely no problem with this, although the press release was kinda lame, stating that the fans requested it (yeah, right... :rolleyes: )
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So, Pearl Jam strikes a deal with the almighty verizon wireless (which i unfortunately use) and still find a way to do something charitable. I dont see MR.Cornell doing this.
Yes people. PJ is officially a sellout, allowing their fans to give away old cell phones for a donation and getting a free PJ ringtone. Lets boycott them!!
i didn't read all the replies to the original post so i hope i am not repeating anything said.
my opinion? people need to stop worrying about bands making money. it's not like he is re-writing a song to include the word verizon in it. record labels are pretty much doomed. they should all just set up a service where bands can upload music and charge whatever for the download. even then there would be very little money made as "illegal" downloads are at this point unstoppable. with record labels being doomed or not wanting to put in an effort to support a band that's been around for about 18 years, than that band needs to figure out ways to make money.
if making a deal with verizon gets pearl jam well deserved money in there pockets and gets them exposure to have more fans, than good for them! artists need to be paid no matter what the "art" is. IMO this is just a way to "cope" with the lack of album sales due to illegal downloads. in 1992 there practically was no internet so of course things people did will have to change.
now if they did what CC did and postpone a show that was scheduled for months because quick money was able to be made elsewhere, than you could call them "sell outs".
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Good point.
I have become more of a social liberal as I have gotten older, but I have also gotten more agressive in building up some wealth. Everyone changes, but obviously, rebels in the public spotlight are put under the microscope.
No problem. In 2003, I bought a bunch of the East Coast shows I went to and traded a lot with a fan from Texas who bought a lot of shows from that region. The cool thing is we finally met at Lolla last year and we're still friends to this day.
You meet some cool fans trading on here.
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We wanted CD bootlegs, which thank god are back. This Verizon deal stinks like shit.
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I was hoping you'd see that. See you at Hartford!
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useless to try to spread your music and sound and voice to a younger generation of music listeners.... yeah ok.
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The band should have a fucking backbone, man! You know the title of this thread...that came from one of THEIR songs ya know...
The old bootleg CD was great when it first came to be in 2000 cause it was all their own idea, spreading their music out to their fans. And they kept the prices low.
This is just some bad business deal.
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They retailed for 13-17 dollars at Tower Records. I bought a ton of them in 2000.
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- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Uhh yeah I know...
And name me another band that is releasing live concert songs via cell phone??? So I guess this is the band's idea as well, plus one of the 3 songs EVERY night is FREE. As for prices being low, they still are for the digital download as well as the CD.
So I don't see where its a bad business deal at all....
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Fans will have the opportunity to donate their old wireless phones at each stop of the tour by simply bringing no-longer-used wireless phones, batteries and accessories with them and dropping them in the HopeLine® donation area at each venue.
The first 50 people making a donation to HopeLine will receive a special Pearl Jam VIP gift bag. All Verizon Wireless customers making donations at each concert venue will receive a free Pearl Jam ringtone and ringback tone for bringing their old phones and accessories to the show.
The HopeLine® program puts the nation’s most reliable wireless network to work in communities by turning unused wireless phones into support for victims of domestic violence.
In my opinion, there's only one bad thing with this whole deal - I didn't change my provider to Verizon last year like I was going to.
First Verizon gets Lost and now PJ. They're making a really compelling argument to switch providers.
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- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
But still no one has really explained how signing up with Verizon is any different then signing up with a major label like they did when they first formed? If the Verizon thing is a "usless corporation deal" why isn't their former contract with Epic/Sony (Sony is a massive corporation) also considered a "usless corporation deal". And it is not like Pearl Jam was every some underground indie garage band. Their first album was Ten (not their major label debut, their actual first album).
I'm not surprized you missed the point. All you focus on is gasoline.
The point being... 17 dollars today is not the same as 17 dollars 16 years ago. Or... 17 dollars in 2008 does not go as far as 17 dollars did in 1992.
Hail, Hail!!!
Look I'm not complaining about the cost.
When you put the name of your company next to your band, you now have a sponsor.
Remember the Sponsored by No One 1995 Tour?
Welcome to the Pearl Jam: Sponsored by V-Cast by Verizon 2008 Tour.
I guess this is how they make money on a year with no new album.
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But white people just love to hate corporations. It doesn't matter (the context), they just hate corporations. Unless it's Apple, of course.
Fuck Apple
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It doesn't sound like they are schilling anything for Verizon and I doubt we will see any Verizon stuff on stage.
To me the Band's integrety is what it always was. Just looking out for the fans.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
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So, Pearl Jam strikes a deal with the almighty verizon wireless (which i unfortunately use) and still find a way to do something charitable. I dont see MR.Cornell doing this.
Yes people. PJ is officially a sellout, allowing their fans to give away old cell phones for a donation and getting a free PJ ringtone. Lets boycott them!!
8/7/08, 6/9/09
what kinda jackoffs try new ways to distribute their music to their fans.....FUCK that pisses me off!!!!
please let's go back to the $50, mistitled, poorly produced bootlegs.....
C'MON IT'S STILL 1995!!!!
:rolleyes:
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BOS 9/2/18, 9/4/18
Well, I dislike all cell phone providers, but I've had Verizon for over 2 years and they offer the best reception by far in my neck of the woods. Better than Sprint, Tmobile, etc.
And regarding the rest of your rant, I think you need to stop living in 1992. It's evolution baby! It's a different time and the band is in a different place. They no longer have to step back and fade into the oblivion to avoid becoming too famous. Deals are done on their terms now and frankly I'm happy to see them becoming more accesible. Now, when Pearl Jam appears on TRL, then I might start using the 'crossover' language. But this is a positive thing, in my humble opinion.
That's exactly what I thought, I think that the basecamp boots weren't profitable anymore, so that's why they stopped doing them last year. Now they cut this deal with Verizon, get paid a good amount of money to do this, which enables this new bootleg program where you can get both CDs and downloads and makes everybody happy. I have absolutely no problem with this, although the press release was kinda lame, stating that the fans requested it (yeah, right... :rolleyes: )
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
my opinion? people need to stop worrying about bands making money. it's not like he is re-writing a song to include the word verizon in it. record labels are pretty much doomed. they should all just set up a service where bands can upload music and charge whatever for the download. even then there would be very little money made as "illegal" downloads are at this point unstoppable. with record labels being doomed or not wanting to put in an effort to support a band that's been around for about 18 years, than that band needs to figure out ways to make money.
if making a deal with verizon gets pearl jam well deserved money in there pockets and gets them exposure to have more fans, than good for them! artists need to be paid no matter what the "art" is. IMO this is just a way to "cope" with the lack of album sales due to illegal downloads. in 1992 there practically was no internet so of course things people did will have to change.
now if they did what CC did and postpone a show that was scheduled for months because quick money was able to be made elsewhere, than you could call them "sell outs".