backspacer.....meh

capecodriotcapecodriot Posts: 340
edited September 2009 in The Porch
(ill preface this with knowledge of my exrtemely high standards for pj)meh, thats my original feeling right after ive listened to it three times now,starts off strong real strong with gonna see... got some(my favorite song so far)andthe fixer but then seems to lose direction after that, still a decent album but like s/t doesnt have great flow or purpose, johnny guitar is a song that will probably grow on me as i listen to it more, just breathe is a beautiful song, amongst the waves was the one song besides got some and the end that i was really excited for and its just ok, maybe im just sick of water and ocean references in almost all of their songs lately, unthought known,meh ok tune,supersonic most of us had already heard andi like it fun fast song, speed of sound is another ok track along with force of nature just pretty forgettable and maybe im noticing as much as i love matt cameron maybe hes too much of a good thing it seems with matt pj tries to cram too much music into their songs and it crowds up the flow of their mojo, maybe its just me, but the final take, the end is another cool ed song as always pj has always had great bookends with their albums and the end leaves you wanting more, again no terrible political songs here, the worst backspacer tracks are still quality tracks, just not much ooo and aaahhhs here i think got some and just breathe will be the follow up singles,i give it 3.5 outta 5 stars, peace.
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    :roll: okay.

    kind of hard to tell since you dont give a descripton to any of the songs except a song we have already heard. ( supersonic ) . because of that many people are going to call bullshit here.

    anyway, I'm sure it will grow on you.

    peace.
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    edited September 2009
    and where did you get the entire album?...
    Post edited by Gmoney on
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  • the wolf wrote:
    :roll: okay.

    kind of hard to tell since you dont give a descripton to any of the songs except a song we have already heard. ( supersonic ) . because of that many people are going to call bullshit here.

    anyway, I'm sure it will grow on you.

    peace.
    what was wrong with what he said?
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  • tacettacet Posts: 323
    I'm trying to count the number of periods in that review and I see nary a one except for the 3 you used
    becuase you were too lazy to type out the rest of a song title.
    You do seem to have a love affair with the comma though.
    we're all sentient snowflakes
  • (ill preface this with knowledge of my exrtemely high standards for pj)meh, thats my original feeling right after ive listened to it three times now,starts off strong real strong with gonna see... got some(my favorite song so far)andthe fixer but then seems to lose direction after that, still a decent album but like s/t doesnt have great flow or purpose, johnny guitar is a song that will probably grow on me as i listen to it more, just breathe is a beautiful song, amongst the waves was the one song besides got some and the end that i was really excited for and its just ok, maybe im just sick of water and ocean references in almost all of their songs lately, unthought known,meh ok tune,supersonic most of us had already heard andi like it fun fast song, speed of sound is another ok track along with force of nature just pretty forgettable and maybe im noticing as much as i love matt cameron maybe hes too much of a good thing it seems with matt pj tries to cram too much music into their songs and it crowds up the flow of their mojo, maybe its just me, but the final take, the end is another cool ed song as always pj has always had great bookends with their albums and the end leaves you wanting more, again no terrible political songs here, the worst backspacer tracks are still quality tracks, just not much ooo and aaahhhs here i think got some and just breathe will be the follow up singles,i give it 3.5 outta 5 stars, peace.

    So you are reviewing the album based on the snippets that were on Amazon?
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    the wolf wrote:
    :roll: okay.

    kind of hard to tell since you dont give a descripton to any of the songs except a song we have already heard. ( supersonic ) . because of that many people are going to call bullshit here.

    anyway, I'm sure it will grow on you.

    peace.
    what was wrong with what he said?
    not sure if the op was proof enough that they really heard the whole album... im sure that's what wolf was hinting at.
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • it took me literally two years to get REALLY into s/t......so, it's all relative in the end.....pun totally intended!
  • the wolf wrote:
    :roll: okay.

    kind of hard to tell since you dont give a descripton to any of the songs except a song we have already heard. ( supersonic ) . because of that many people are going to call bullshit here.

    anyway, I'm sure it will grow on you.

    peace.
    what was wrong with what he said?

    He/she is implying they have heard ALL of the album - still no leak as far as I can see...
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    the wolf wrote:
    :roll: okay.

    kind of hard to tell since you dont give a descripton to any of the songs except a song we have already heard. ( supersonic ) . because of that many people are going to call bullshit here.

    anyway, I'm sure it will grow on you.

    peace.
    what was wrong with what he said?

    nothing i guess, besides not really giving us any information on the songs .

    thats cool though. but to just say " name of song " meh dont really say much at all does it ?

    he/she basically just named all the songs on the album, but didnt really give us any info other than " meh ".

    like i said , thats fine........ but.........
    Peace, Love.


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  • gremmiedotnetgremmiedotnet Posts: 345
    edited September 2009
    There's been no leak through the normal channels of yet.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...
  • SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...

    Well that's because you're choosing to view it as a black or white situation.
  • cdp1223cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    This "review".....meh. ;)
  • SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...
    Seriously?

    LOL.

    A leak is not the person who is dowloading's fault.
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  • just not much ooo and aaahhhs here i think got some and just breathe will be the follow up singles,i give it 3.5 outta 5 stars, peace.

    I find it hilarious that you just reviewed album snippets. I cant believe what I just read. Something along the lines of...Song Name, meh. Supersonic, fast and fun. Ridiculous.
  • I think some people got a hold of the songs.
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  • bullshit
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    who said anything about stealing music? i work in the music biz and am 100% against stealing music, but if backspacer leaked today i'd be jamming it tonight. of course ive already pre ordered the cd and will also buy the vinyl. with most pj fans, especially on the porch, it's called listening early, not stealing. 99% of porch members will buy the cd
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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...

    Well that's because you're choosing to view it as a black or white situation.


    What if I have bought the CD through 10C and will also buy the vinyl version. Then I'll also pay 2 bucks for track through the Rock Band store. Does that also make me a dirt bag if I download a leaked version?
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  • I think some people got a hold of the songs.

    If he got a hold of the songs, and gave that review, that makes it about 3 times worse. If he really heard the album and then wrote that out hes a complete idiot.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...
    Seriously?

    LOL.

    A leak is not the person who is dowloading's fault.

    That has to be the most moronic statement about downloading music illegally I have ever seen.
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    chris32482 wrote:
    bullshit


    told ya'. ;)
    Peace, Love.


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    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
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  • SolarWorld wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...
    Seriously?

    LOL.

    A leak is not the person who is dowloading's fault.

    That has to be the most moronic statement about downloading music illegally I have ever seen.
    No.
    Not if it's available.

    The person WHO MADE IT AVAILABLE should be held responsible.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    DS114969 wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    I dont understand why people feel it's ok to steal fucking music. Dirt Bag...

    Well that's because you're choosing to view it as a black or white situation.


    What if I have bought the CD through 10C and will also buy the vinyl version. Then I'll also pay 2 bucks for track through the Rock Band store. Does that also make me a dirt bag if I download a leaked version?

    In a word. Yes. If they wanted you to have it now, you would have it now. This selfish entitlement attitude is ridiculous. Not to mention most music and everything else these days uses bittorrent. The minute you have downloaded enough you are then seeding to the next person and so on and so on. How do you know if those people "pre-ordered". You don't and you end up contributing to the distribution. Grow up and wait for the release. If you can't afford $10 for an album you have bigger problems you should be dealing with.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    No.
    Not if it's available.

    The person WHO MADE IT AVAILABLE should be held responsible.

    I have nothing further for this infantile train of thought. Move along.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,226
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Seriously?

    LOL.

    A leak is not the person who is dowloading's fault.

    That has to be the most moronic statement about downloading music illegally I have ever seen.
    No.
    Not if it's available.

    The person WHO MADE IT AVAILABLE should be held responsible.
    Agree to disagree. This is like saying torrent sites are responsible for the fact that I steal music, and should be held accountable. Your free will is always around, even when you're given a choice to do wrong. Who's at fault? Both the uploader of the illegal content, and those of us who choose to download said content.
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  • AllNiteThingAllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    edited September 2009
    SolarWorld wrote:

    In a word. Yes. If they wanted you to have it now, you would have it now. This selfish entitlement attitude is ridiculous. Not to mention most music and everything else these days uses bittorrent. The minute you have downloaded enough you are then seeding to the next person and so on and so on. How do you know if those people "pre-ordered". You don't and you end up contributing to the distribution. Grow up and wait for the release. If you can't afford $10 for an album you have bigger problems you should be dealing with.


    You sound like a real joy to hang out with. :rolleyes:
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  • OkOk Posts: 2,144
    cdp1223 wrote:
    This "review".....meh. ;)

    +1 :D
  • SolarWorld wrote:
    No.
    Not if it's available.

    The person WHO MADE IT AVAILABLE should be held responsible.

    I have nothing further for this infantile train of thought. Move along.


    That's funny considering you've managed to call someone 'moronic' and a 'dirt bag' all in the same thread. Hello kettle, I'm pot.
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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    SolarWorld wrote:
    DS114969 wrote:


    What if I have bought the CD through 10C and will also buy the vinyl version. Then I'll also pay 2 bucks for track through the Rock Band store. Does that also make me a dirt bag if I download a leaked version?

    In a word. Yes. If they wanted you to have it now, you would have it now. This selfish entitlement attitude is ridiculous. Not to mention most music and everything else these days uses bittorrent. The minute you have downloaded enough you are then seeding to the next person and so on and so on. How do you know if those people "pre-ordered". You don't and you end up contributing to the distribution. Grow up and wait for the release. If you can't afford $10 for an album you have bigger problems you should be dealing with.


    :roll: I did say I was purchasing the album at least three times so don't know where your $10 comment comes from. You do have a point on the bittorrent seeding though.....
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