GLBT Pearl Jam Fans?

Redmosquito91

alright... i read every post so far sooo lets see here is my 2 cents...

- i am gay. i LOVE pearl jam and their music has changed my world soo much! i have for years wondered about posting athread to see if there were any other glbt fans. it would be really refreshing to go to shows with people from the same walk of life who are also part of the Jamily. and yes if a glbta pearl jam fan group is established for sure count me in!

- i was impressed that this thread got so far before too much testosterone and close mindedness got in the way of a discussion amongst fans.

- to the person who stated their sickness about gay individuals... i respect your honesty and your viewpoints. although i disagree, communication is important and can fix alot of the world. as long as people are respectful then all viewpoints are valid.


sooo yeah... gays, lesbians, straight allies, and pearl jam are all awesome.

florence151

I live in Massachusetts. This is the first state to legalize gay marriage. I support that right.

girlinthewhitepants

I'm not interested in fighting either, but since it was my post that set off the cascade of negativity I feel like I need to respond...

I think it was brave for parasol to start this thread and I'm glad she did. My interpretation of it was as a shout in the dark for other queer PJ fans, within a community that often feels really hetero-male oriented. (MSG was a serious sausagefest - not that there is anything wrong with sausage obviously! Moderation in all things.) It was not an invitation for you to air out your innermost feelings of discomfort about homosexual acts. Homophobic commentary makes me sick because it is hateful. I think it is important to call people out on hateful language, and in person I almost always do. But there is only so much effort I'm willing to put into a web message board...so I used this thread as an opportunity say how I feel, as it supports the original poster, which was my intent. If you are so sure that you are right in your dislike for the queer lifestyle then you shouldn't give a shit what I think, anyway.

And for the record, my parents are homophobic bigots. But I'm an adult and I think for myself. And I stick to lighter subjects like the weather when I visit home.

LONGRD

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

Its all good, I understand we are all equal, I just am explaing my side, it obviously comes from upbringing, and I sociallize with every walk of life, I am uncomfortable with the differant acts of sex, not who people are, hopefully I didnt send that harsh of a measage.

See that's your problem right there, along with million other anti-gay supporters out there, you see them for their sexual acts first and not as humans like the rest of us. And why should their sexual acts bother you? They're doing it in their own home(s)/hotel(s) (at least I hope they are).

If you're a good person and you contribute to your community and society, you shouldn't be discredited because of your sexual orientation or race or nationality and so forth.

deadmosquito

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

Its all good, I understand we are all equal, I just am explaing my side, it obviously comes from upbringing, and I sociallize with every walk of life, I am uncomfortable with the differant acts of sex, not who people are, hopefully I didnt send that harsh of a measage.

i think some people are putting words in your mouth a little bit. correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you were just trying to be honest and say that being around gay people can make you a bit uncomfortable. i don't think you insinuated any kind of bigotry or hatred of gay people by simply stating the fact that you can feel uncomfortable in a situation in which gay people are present. i think it's admirable that you can admit this, and i agree with you that you have the right to (and also can't help) the way you inherently feel. even as a gay dude myself, i am uncomfortable around groups of gay guys. it's just the way i am.

i think "homophobic" in your case is just a feeling of discomfort rather than being "anti-gay." i'm not sure everyone in this thread got that distinction. as long as you don't treat people badly just because you're uncomfortable around them, i don't see any kind of problem.

dangerboy

deadmosquito wrote:

i think some people are putting words in your mouth a little bit. correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you were just trying to be honest and say that being around gay people can make you a bit uncomfortable. i don't think you insinuated any kind of bigotry or hatred of gay people by simply stating the fact that you can feel uncomfortable in a situation in which gay people are present. i think it's admirable that you can admit this, and i agree with you that you have the right to (and also can't help) the way you inherently feel. even as a gay dude myself, i am uncomfortable around groups of gay guys. it's just the way i am.

i think "homophobic" in your case is just a feeling of discomfort rather than being "anti-gay." i'm not sure everyone in this thread got that distinction. as long as you don't treat people badly just because you're uncomfortable around them, i don't see any kind of problem.

kudos to you for being accepting of a different point of view. the golden rule in practice....

"homophobia" is a fear of gay people. disagreeing with a lifestyle or being uncomfortable with it does not mean you are afraid of it

nowayimfaithfull

deadmosquito wrote:

i think some people are putting words in your mouth a little bit. correct me if i'm wrong, but i think you were just trying to be honest and say that being around gay people can make you a bit uncomfortable. i don't think you insinuated any kind of bigotry or hatred of gay people by simply stating the fact that you can feel uncomfortable in a situation in which gay people are present. i think it's admirable that you can admit this, and i agree with you that you have the right to (and also can't help) the way you inherently feel. even as a gay dude myself, i am uncomfortable around groups of gay guys. it's just the way i am.

i think "homophobic" in your case is just a feeling of discomfort rather than being "anti-gay." i'm not sure everyone in this thread got that distinction. as long as you don't treat people badly just because you're uncomfortable around them, i don't see any kind of problem.

well put.
you are 100 percent right, I am not anti gay at all.

CityMouse

nowayimfaithful-
how can the "different acts of sex" make you uncomfortable??? you're not the one doing them!!!

Honestly, you can't see inside other people's bedrooms. it makes me uncomfortable to imagine certain straight people having sex-have you ever had a straight friend give a little TMI about their sex life and you're like..um, ew, didn't need to know that about you-but you don't "speak out" against that do you??? It's none of your business. You probably do things in the bedroom no one wants to hear about either. Why is it ok for you to have sex with whom and how you want to but not for other people???

robowski

that there bible don't say nuthin' bout Adam and Steve - LOL

dangerboy

CityMouse wrote:

nowayimfaithful-
how can the "different acts of sex" make you uncomfortable??? you're not the one doing them!!!

Honestly, you can't see inside other people's bedrooms. it makes me uncomfortable to imagine certain straight people having sex-have you ever had a straight friend give a little TMI about their sex life and you're like..um, ew, didn't need to know that about you-but you don't "speak out" against that do you??? It's none of your business. You probably do things in the bedroom no one wants to hear about either. Why is it ok for you to have sex with whom and how you want to but not for other people???

exactly. but leave it there. and that goes for EVERYBODY.

dumbek

I just wanted to ad a "me too" here. We are everywhere.

My BF and I have been PJ fans for years. We don't follow them around the way many of you seem to - but we try to catch them whenever they're in DC. My first show was the "Voters For Choice" gig with Neil Young and L7 back in 95. I've seen them 7 times - my BF has seen them 5. We were at the last DC show (Section 100 represent!) . We saw Ed with R.E.M. in Philly. I'm in the 10C (344xxx). We'll be at Ed's DC2 show. I'm still waiting for those darn DC cds to show up in the mail.

Don't just assume we're not there, just because you can't readily pick us out of the crowd. There are more of us than you think.

Black Diamond

As a father of three and a very happily married man, I am happy to see the very positive (mostly) attitude that has been throughout this thread. Everyone has a right to life, liberty and a pursuit of happiness and I hope the day will come that a thread like this won't be necessary.

The only thing that is creeping me out about this thread is the Canadian tilt it has taken.

BTW - for someone earlier in the thread, very straight and big Indigo Girls fan.
What does sexuality have to do with good music.

NoCodename

Add another one to the count. I can only listen to so much lesbian folk rock. I’ve been a PJ fan since before I knew I was a lesbian back when they were on the way up with Ten. I’ll share the lesbian fan’s predicament of a lifetime... back in the nineties I had tickets to a unique outdoor PJ concert... but then I heard the Lilith Fair was going to be at the Gorge. This was back at the start of the Lilith Fair with some of the greats like, Sara M., Indigo Girls, Natalie Merchant etc. I couldn’t go to both because they were a day's drive apart and scheduled within a couple days of one another. I chose the Lilith Fair and I have to say I kind of regret it even though I’ve seen PJ several times since then.

Anyway... whether I’m with my partner or my hetero male rocker friends, I’m at the shows too. Someone posted something about Ed wearing a pink triangle at some event. You can also see him wearing a pink triangle in the Pearl Jam photo book. I believe it’s a shot of some of the band members on a boat – it looks like Ed’s wearing a black leather jacket with a pink triangle pin. Gay people rock! Actually most of my gay friends don’t, but it’s nice to hear that you all do.