I Hope PJ is Thrilled about Supporting a Socialist Prez

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

did the mods take the night off?

SpinMeRoundRollMeOvr

MrSmith wrote:

did the mods take the night off?

They must have...

Maybe they're busy preparing for another annoucement ...

Spiritual_Chaos

spiritual choas...... you probably take more than you contribute.

Actually no.

saying "ignorant American" is just plain dumb.

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Not really.

ReachingForThinAir

oh you people.

some day, and it's not far in the future, you know like when Iraq was your masturbatory point...

this point will become succinct in your mind.

Socialism is a good thing. It takes the grubbing and sticks it in the ass.
yes.

in the ass.

proctology.

Rossum20

Lets face it...there is no true "left" anymore. The democrats are the new center/right and the republicans are those special "damaged" people way the fuck out in right field.

I love the whole "oh boy, we are really in trouble now!" Are you fucking retarded...have you been living in your moms basement the last decade...we already are fucked..we were fucked last year before Obama took over and the people who are crying about Obama were perfectly happy with what preceded him? Thank god the American people finally accepted the fact that we need to change...some government intervention is UNAVOIDABLE at this point because too many people exposed the dangerous side that free flowing capitalism allows.

How this makes Obama a socialist is beyond me...this is literally a PINCH of the whole pie that will be government controlled...and it has to be...otherwise our current system will continue to be exploited and we will continue to crash.


Obama is a socialist....he wasn't born in the USA..wah wah waaaahhhh....and this is how far the republicans have fallen? C-Street? Its disgusting...and you either have to be someone who has been able to make a nice chunk of change by finding shortcuts in our "hands off" capitalistic society...or youre a complete fucking idiot...which is it?

Socialist? Take a look.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 9&comments

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

as a pretty big fiscal conservative (not socially), this thread is fucking stupid.

breath123

Sawyer wrote:

I have never understood penalizing people for being educated and successful....I guees democrats can explain that better than I.

I will give it a shot.

when you have had all the breaks, the best education, take advantage of all the tax loopholes that all those politicians allow you to take advantage of, I think the only decent thing to do is break off a minute amount to help out the people who had NONE of these breaks most successful people are born into.

Eh, that's a little idealistic, allow me to rephrase. If the hardest decision you have to make is between taking the porshe or the ferrari for a spin ou for a weekend in the hamptons, are you really souless enough to deny someone who's daily problem is how they are going to a meal today?

Let me ask you this. Can you live on $199,999.99 per year, think you can eek out a living on that? My understanding is that under Obama anyone making less than $200,000 life doesn't change much.

"Socialism" or "the right thing to do"? you decide...

don't worry Sawyer, George Bush set the example that it was okay to be a filthy rich, heartless prick.

A LOT of people followed his example, you're in good company.

satansbed

cannotstaylong wrote:

Electric Feel wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

Let me rant for a second......socialized healthcare....are you kidding....is this Russia? We are embarking on dangerous ground with Mr. Obama. I have never understood penalizing people for being educated and successful....I guees democrats can explain that better than I. He was so cool, and hip, and my God...BLACK....nevermind how underqualified this clown is, or that his own administration is now going.......uhhhhhhhhhh,,,,it is easy to be a democrat when you have more money than you know what to do with....ask Sean Penn....ask Tim Robbins...and by God question Pearl Jam once in awhile.

He's adding a public option, so people can live,he is not socializing medicine (though we should really have a single buyer plan).... . If you don't like it go move to... errr... I guess you have little options there, as much of the developed world has true socialized healthcare.

I'm not agreeing with everything in the original post, but I don't think you should be judging the strength of the American health care system based on the rest of the developed world. We still get better care for our health in this nation in comparison to almost anywhere on the planet. As I said, I'm not supporting everything in the original post, but I think we have a problem when we consider the health care standards in other nations as satisfactory measurements for the care in our own nation.

except for cuba.............. and europe......... and india.......... and china

ECM

dannyschmanny

why do you care about universal health care? you can still keep your same health care you have now. it will just make it more reasonable for the millions who can't AFFORD health care to get it. i currently don't have nor can afford health care. i had an ear blockage that i couldnt solve on my own and had to go to a doctor. i was in a total of 3 minutes...and they essentially blasted the inside of my ear with water. bill? 200 bucks. for 3 minutes? really?!
if me getting an opportunity at health care is socialism to you? f**kin' ...bring on socialism.

Schoki

Sawyer wrote:

Let me rant for a second......socialized healthcare....are you kidding....is this Russia? We are embarking on dangerous ground with Mr. Obama. I have never understood penalizing people for being educated and successful....I guees democrats can explain that better than I. He was so cool, and hip, and my God...BLACK....nevermind how underqualified this clown is, or that his own administration is now going.......uhhhhhhhhhh,,,,it is easy to be a democrat when you have more money than you know what to do with....ask Sean Penn....ask Tim Robbins...and by God question Pearl Jam once in awhile.

You are saying socialism but you mean communism or? Socialism is what we have here in Germany! Not so bad at all. Health care has nothing to do with being hip. Congrats for a great president you guys have now !
Underqualified! Maybe you should watch some of the statements your old president Jr. made.
Questionn yourself and unqualified comments once in a while.

Spiritual_Chaos

i was in a total of 3 minutes...and they essentially blasted the inside of my ear with water. bill? 200 bucks. for 3 minutes? really?!

here in Sweden I payed 12dollars for that. And then 10 dollars for some eardrops.

Dercheef

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

i was in a total of 3 minutes...and they essentially blasted the inside of my ear with water. bill? 200 bucks. for 3 minutes? really?!

here in Sweden I payed 12dollars for that. And then 10 dollars for some eardrops.

Had this a few years ago and I actually I paid nothing for the same treatment here in germany.

i shit and i stink

Sawyer wrote:

Let me rant for a second......socialized healthcare....are you kidding....is this Russia? We are embarking on dangerous ground with Mr. Obama. I have never understood penalizing people for being educated and successful....I guees democrats can explain that better than I. He was so cool, and hip, and my God...BLACK....nevermind how underqualified this clown is, or that his own administration is now going.......uhhhhhhhhhh,,,,it is easy to be a democrat when you have more money than you know what to do with....ask Sean Penn....ask Tim Robbins...and by God question Pearl Jam once in awhile.

In Britain a lot of people look at your crazy healthcare system and wonder how on Earth it is possible do deny medical care to anyone based upon how good their insurance is. Socialist healthcare is not communist - equal access to treatment is a right, not a privilege. Our system is not perfect but I think most Brits would not swap our national health service for your elitist system.

How does the American system currently work? All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

brandon10

dannyschmanny wrote:

why do you care about universal health care? you can still keep your same health care you have now. it will just make it more reasonable for the millions who can't AFFORD health care to get it. i currently don't have nor can afford health care. i had an ear blockage that i couldnt solve on my own and had to go to a doctor. i was in a total of 3 minutes...and they essentially blasted the inside of my ear with water. bill? 200 bucks. for 3 minutes? really?!
if me getting an opportunity at health care is socialism to you? f**kin' ...bring on socialism.

I'm in Canada. Had the exact same problem. The only thing I had to do was wait ten minutes in the waiting room. Absolutely FREE.

It's really sad how these idiotic right wing fools ruin what could be a fantastic country. That and religion, but thats a whole other topic. I hope all these fucking rednecks start shooting themselves with all the extra guns they are buying now.

violetpsyche

Sawyer wrote:

Let me rant for a second......socialized healthcare....are you kidding....is this Russia?

Ooooh dear, my brain just did a major backflip at the stupidity and ignorance of this. I don't know what to say except that I suppose we in the UK are a bunch of commie bastards because we have services like the NHS. I despair.

Igotshitandgiggles

America is the only industrialized, developed nation w/o some form of universal healthcare...don't be so naive calling us "socialist Russia". you have no idea what you are talkin about

Flagg

usamamasan1 wrote:

he was considering taxing the health care benefits of those who work for them!!!!

An idea taken from the McCain health plan by the way.

Flagg

Evil Closet Monkey wrote:

LOL!

Wolf At Bay

Got Some If You Need It wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

Let me rant for a second......socialized healthcare....are you kidding....is this Russia? We are embarking on dangerous ground with Mr. Obama. I have never understood penalizing people for being educated and successful....I guees democrats can explain that better than I. He was so cool, and hip, and my God...BLACK....nevermind how underqualified this clown is, or that his own administration is now going.......uhhhhhhhhhh,,,,it is easy to be a democrat when you have more money than you know what to do with....ask Sean Penn....ask Tim Robbins...and by God question Pearl Jam once in awhile.

+1. This country is in trouble.

Actually, the economy is already on the rebound. turn on the news