Overblown Criticism of The Fixer

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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    coachchris wrote:
    In McCready's interview he said that Matt wrote it not Ed. Regardless, if you can't picture yourself singing "Fight to get it back again, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" in concert when Ed points the mic out to us...you're crazy! This song, as much as some of you may not like, it will be kick ass live IMO ;)
    Come on now. This song will garner the equivalent response of Unemployable at a live setting which isn't great and isn't horrible (and I'm a fan of Unemployable). The song just doesn't have the chops to pick up a dull crowd or maintain a good crowd response during a good run of songs. I guess we'll see but I think that this song will be spot played after these Backspacer shows are done. Can you really see yourself getting all pumped up and yelling "fight to get it back again" at a show? Really?
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,047
    Love where this band is at the moment i can't wait to see these songs live i mean all of them specially from my perspective wich will be up close & personal :) ...
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  • LikeAnOcean
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    esacks23 wrote:
    it's awful, and would everyone just accept and admit that it's awful before everyone on this board loses any and all credibility. please! it is the most pointless and irrelevant song this band has ever put out on a record. this is the poetry of a ten year old.
    Why does this band always have to be so serious??? Why does everything always have to be poetic?

    And this song is poetic. It builds perhaps from the perspective of a child. The lyrics at the end of the song are pretty good.

    Don't take it so seriously. Get laid or something! It's a fun song.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Do you really believe The Fixer will be a radio hit?

    Do you believe The Fixer will give pearl jam the same recognition as green day has had with their last 2 albums........ and singles released from those albums?

    Because I just dont see it happening.....not with that song

    I hope the rest of backspacer blows me a way....I hope they sell a gazillion copies....I hope they win Album of the year....I hope The Lord Obama invites them to the White House....I hope the Pope has a special mass in their honor.....I hope they are invited to ride on the space shuttle......I hope the new album leads to world peace......

    But i just dont see any of this happening because of the release of The Fixer......

    No, it probably won't, but it sure as hell stands a better chance to make a dent on radio than most of their songs do.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jwillmo wrote:
    My favorite parts where when someone kept referring to Nickelback as bubblegum. Yeah, I'm sure their "I like your pants around your feet" song would have been HUGE in the early 60s. And whoever said The Cure never wrote any poppy songs, that was funny too. And kept going back and forth - "No I meant they never wrote any poppy LYRICS!"

    Worth noting that both of these were the same poster, who is clearly a musical genius. :roll:
  • Blue11
    Blue11 Posts: 200
    i've heard it once so far and I'm not a fan of it....yet
    I say yet because it took a while for me to appreciate some of their songs, not that this will be or not be one of them; only time will tell.
    Overall I'm looking forward to the album and hearing the rest of what's on it.
    And I hope they keep making music for years to come.
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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    You can build a thousand bridges and suck one dick and when you die you'll be known as a cocksucker and not a bridge builder.

    Backspacer can be chalk full of masterpieces but unfortunately the Fixer might end up being the focal point on which the album is ultimately judged.
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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    Songburst wrote:
    You can build a thousand bridges and suck one dick and when you die you'll be known as a cocksucker and not a bridge builder.

    Backspacer can be chalk full of masterpieces but unfortunately the Fixer might end up being the focal point on which the album is ultimately judged.
    It's quite undeservedly harsh and ultimately totally false but I so rarely have an opportunity to bring up this great quote in a discussion and I couldn't pass it up.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Songburst wrote:
    Backspacer can be chalk full of masterpieces but unfortunately the Fixer might end up being the focal point on which the album is ultimately judged.
    Judging by The Fixer, I can't wait!
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jwillmo wrote:
    dude...i love the beatles..born and raised around their music...but that was the '50s when they made those songs! and it was "new" at the time...this is 2000 and fucking 9!!!...not the the same at all!
    The Beatles are from the 50s? I really need to brush up on my rock history, I have been misinformed.

    it's ok...keep reading the thread and you'll learn plenty...will the mo...or is it just willmo?

    Are you seriously defending your claim that the Beatles released their music in the 50s?
  • Bulldog88
    Bulldog88 Posts: 380
    This thread may need a boxing ring to settle things! :lol:
  • dpmay
    dpmay Posts: 643
    Songburst wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    You can build a thousand bridges and suck one dick and when you die you'll be known as a cocksucker and not a bridge builder.

    Backspacer can be chalk full of masterpieces but unfortunately the Fixer might end up being the focal point on which the album is ultimately judged.
    It's quite undeservedly harsh and ultimately totally false but I so rarely have an opportunity to bring up this great quote in a discussion and I couldn't pass it up.

    so i have to ask, where'd that line come from?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjalive21 wrote:
    im just stunned that people on here defending this song can still rip on Nickelback after hearing The Crapper, i mean The Fixer

    seriously someone said "there is nothing wrong with a pop song"??? these are the same people who rip all these "mainstream" bands but god forbid Pearl Jam does it and its freakin groundbreaking

    lets get real they are chasing the dollar they arent worried about progression anymore...i mean c'mon a Target deal? Virgin Mobile?

    I've never ripped on mainstream bands. Nickelback sucks because Nickelback sucks.

    Now I'm going to go throw on a Buckcherry album and remind myself that music can be fun sometimes without it automatically being shit, like some around here seem to feel.
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    dpmay wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    Songburst wrote:
    You can build a thousand bridges and suck one dick and when you die you'll be known as a cocksucker and not a bridge builder.

    Backspacer can be chalk full of masterpieces but unfortunately the Fixer might end up being the focal point on which the album is ultimately judged.
    It's quite undeservedly harsh and ultimately totally false but I so rarely have an opportunity to bring up this great quote in a discussion and I couldn't pass it up.

    so i have to ask, where'd that line come from?
    It's just a saying that us electrical / mechanical engineers used to bug civil engineers with in school. Not sure of the origin but it's damn funny if not wretchedly degrading.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    esacks23 wrote:
    it's awful, and would everyone just accept and admit that it's awful before everyone on this board loses any and all credibility. please! it is the most pointless and irrelevant song this band has ever put out on a record. this is the poetry of a ten year old.
    Why does this band always have to be so serious??? Why does everything always have to be poetic?

    And this song is poetic. It builds perhaps from the perspective of a child. The lyrics at the end of the song are pretty good.

    Don't take it so seriously. Get laid or something! It's a fun song.

    I gotta disagree. I know what you mean about not taking a song too seriously. But I think Pearl Jam does take this song seriously or else they wouldn't have made it the single.

    Pink Cadillac by Bruce Springsteen.....now there's a perfect example of a song that shouldn't be taken too seriously.....but it's a good song. A Bruce fan who is really into his deep lyrics still wouldn't hate on Pink Cadillac because it's fun. The Fixer though? I don't think it's fun, I just think it's flat-out bad.
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  • knik
    knik Posts: 94
    esacks23 wrote:
    it is the most pointless and irrelevant song this band has ever put out on a record. this is the poetry of a ten year old.

    What do you mean exactly by pointless and irrelevant? Irrelevant to what? It's just a buoyant song which doesn't have to be analysed to be enjoyed.
  • icemanap
    icemanap Posts: 406
    Let's just hope that Backspacer is no Riot Act.

    I know there's much love for that album but it's not my particular favourite. If it's anywhere as good as Yield, the best of their latter albums I think we will be happy.
    :D Rock on!!!! :D
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  • Vedder_Girl77
    Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,341
    I love The Fixer! Can't wait to hear the rest of Backspacer! :D
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  • LikeAnOcean
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    esacks23 wrote:
    it's awful, and would everyone just accept and admit that it's awful before everyone on this board loses any and all credibility. please! it is the most pointless and irrelevant song this band has ever put out on a record. this is the poetry of a ten year old.
    Why does this band always have to be so serious??? Why does everything always have to be poetic?

    And this song is poetic. It builds perhaps from the perspective of a child. The lyrics at the end of the song are pretty good.

    Don't take it so seriously. Get laid or something! It's a fun song.

    I gotta disagree. I know what you mean about not taking a song too seriously. But I think Pearl Jam does take this song seriously or else they wouldn't have made it the single.

    Pink Cadillac by Bruce Springsteen.....now there's a perfect example of a song that shouldn't be taken too seriously.....but it's a good song. A Bruce fan who is really into his deep lyrics still wouldn't hate on Pink Cadillac because it's fun. The Fixer though? I don't think it's fun, I just think it's flat-out bad.
    Well its stuck in my head, and its Pearl Jam, so it works for me.
  • i heard that clip on the allstar game and expected to hear a pop song. i listened to no code and felt better after that then yesterday i hear thr fixer and got that feeling of when you feel embarrassed for someone. im sure someone will use that song on the next season of American Idol.