My Solution For TenClub

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  • TEEJAM11
    TEEJAM11 Posts: 335
    ummmmm this solution sucks!!!
    current way works as is....

    The only solution people want is to hear you got tickets...

    Competition is the name of the game here... we all want the same thing
    and when someone doesn't get what they want they post BS after BS.....

    We all have the same chance at the tickets...

    Allot of people here take the day off when Tickets go on sale...
  • Swanton
    Swanton Posts: 77
    Couldn't disagree more with your post.

    Everyone does not have the same chance at tickets. The only people that have a chance at tickets are those that can be at a computer at the designated time of the presale.

    If alot of people took the day off to buy tickets through here, then alot of people wasted a sick or vacation day. It's not like I'm simply bitching about missing out on tickets. I'm offering a solution that covers several factors and allows more fans to be involved instead of the very small percentage that are active on this site.
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  • strummers
    strummers Posts: 2,611
    Lizardjam wrote:
    I'd almost like to add a location restriction. It really cuts down on the ability for locals to see a show when some fan members follow the band around the country. They have high numbers usually and I see the SAME people in the front row. Over and over. It's frustrating.

    Location restriction doesn't work - what about those people who are unlucky enough to never be near a PJ show - that means they would never be able to get 10c tickets - if needed a better restriction would be a ticket restriction (1 pair per tour/country/area or 2 per tour etc).
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    with being able to buy more shows through the ten club than just one, it ensures more fans travelling and going to shoes...equaling more fans in the building from other places...then include the locals...meaning there will be more sellouts...meaning more money. it all comes down to money. they will not change the system. think about it.
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  • TEEJAM11
    TEEJAM11 Posts: 335
    Do you guys remember back in the day when we would have to stand outside 5am in line at your tower records.
    You would get a wrist band and cross your finger you won the lotto.
    People in the back of the line would get great tickets because they got the lucky number etc...
    this sucked point being, no system is fool proof or accommodating to everyone..

    And to think Pearl Jam tour 98 I did stand in line....

    This system is way better....
  • Jeff Murray
    Jeff Murray Posts: 1,259
    There will never be a perfect system. The only solution to today's ticket crunch would be if the band would play more then one city on the East Coast. The demand far outreached the supply. When they do a full blown tour tickets are not as difficult, with the exception of MSG and maybe the Gorge.

    I don't agree with the location restrictions, that has been argued now for years. If someone can afford to travel to other cities to see Pearl Jam play why not? It makes for a great vacation and you meet all kinds of great friends. Plus what about the kid in Kansas City that doesn't have a show near them? Better luck next tour? Never gonna happen.

    I don't like the lottery system either, first come first serve, or better yet first through the server and not kicked out, first serve is the fairest way to go (Pretty much is a lottery anyway). Can you imagine the horror if we went back to the "old days" of camping out in front of the box office to get tickets. I'll take sitting in front of a computer and praying the server doesn't shut me out anyday.

    And yes, I would be saying this if I didn't get tickets as well.
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  • Lizardjam
    Lizardjam Posts: 1,121
    strummers wrote:
    Lizardjam wrote:
    I'd almost like to add a location restriction. It really cuts down on the ability for locals to see a show when some fan members follow the band around the country. They have high numbers usually and I see the SAME people in the front row. Over and over. It's frustrating.

    Location restriction doesn't work - what about those people who are unlucky enough to never be near a PJ show - that means they would never be able to get 10c tickets - if needed a better restriction would be a ticket restriction (1 pair per tour/country/area or 2 per tour etc).


    I agree. I posted again with that....one show per tour. I would want anyone that can't see them locally to travel...but not the ones that do nothing but travel and consequently locals get shut out.
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    PJammin' wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    go back to postcards


    :lol:

    thats funny ?

    the fanclub used to do postcard mailins,

    seemed a whole lot better.
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Swanton wrote:
    Couldn't disagree more with your post.

    Everyone does not have the same chance at tickets. The only people that have a chance at tickets are those that can be at a computer at the designated time of the presale.

    If alot of people took the day off to buy tickets through here, then alot of people wasted a sick or vacation day. It's not like I'm simply bitching about missing out on tickets. I'm offering a solution that covers several factors and allows more fans to be involved instead of the very small percentage that are active on this site.
    I got to say, I do not like you idea of having a lottery - then having to wait to know if you got tickets or not - and wait for them to notify everyone, then wait for their payments to be submitted, then re-offer the tickets and so on. Nah, I would rather know right away if i got tickets or not.

    No matter how to slice or dice it, the same amount of tickets will be sold.

    I generally only go to local Pacific Northwest shows, and I have never been shut out of a 10C ticketed show.

    I understand your frustration, but that is why the general public sale happens also.
  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    I missed out on Ed solo tickets numerous times so I know how those who didnt get tickets feel. I managed to get SD tickets this morning relatively easily but having experienced it before I know how difficult the system can be. I also got aggravated by some of the posts from those who got Ed tickets last year, so I wont act like a fool because I got tickets.

    I agree there are ways to smooth things out. Cities that have more then one show should be limited to one per show. While the idea of a location restriction is interesting, it wouldnt be fair to those who live in areas where shows are never played. It would be nice if people would log out after getting there tickets so as not to crowd the server but we all know that is not going to happen. If all tickets to all shows went on sale at the same time people would have to pick which show they most wanted and go for those which may limit the amount of people who somehow come out with tickets to like 4 shows while others get none, but this doesnt solve the problem for those who cant be at the computer.
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    PJammin' wrote:
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    go back to postcards


    :lol:

    thats funny ?

    the fanclub used to do postcard mailins,

    seemed a whole lot better.

    yeah, i remember those days. it just seems funny to me now. besides, there would still be the same problem because the ten club has restrictions with how many seats they get and there are more members now. there would still be unhappy people because the ten club couldn't fill all of the orders...no matter how fast you get the postcards in. also, too much work that they don't need to do. it's easier through the computer.
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  • reflectedfromafar
    reflectedfromafar Posts: 235
    If you think ticket prices are high for this tour, imagine what they would be if they had to go back to any kind of manual system, with all the work that would go into that. I think the 10C folks work hard enough as it is, without everyone shitting on them.
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    you say that it sucks that ten clubbers have to act like gamblers at a slot machine, but your solution is a lottery. :mrgreen:

    I wouldn't enjoy a lottery system because too much time would lapse between knowing whether or not I would get tickets.

    Any solution will result in a few people who didn't get tickets complaining about the reasons they didn't get tickets.

    I've been shut out of shows plenty of times, it sucks. But then once the show passes and its the day after and life goes on, you get over it quickly.
  • satansbedbugs
    satansbedbugs On Tour Posts: 2,413
    Indifference wrote:
    Lotteries stink. I prefer to have control over my destiny not some random chance.

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,005
    Swanton wrote:

    This method of ticket distribution is thoroughly unfair. You are limiting ticket sales to Ten Club members who can access a computer at a specific time.

    Dude, THERE'S ONLY SO MANY TICKETS!!!!
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  • NoelMichael
    NoelMichael Posts: 1,635
    Just put a 1 minute time limit on anything in a cart. Problem solved. If anyone can't check out in a minute, they don't deserve tickets. And that'll stop us from having to refresh for an hour and 15 minutes!!!
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  • PearlJamPatriot
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    NoelMichael wrote:
    Just put a 1 minute time limit on anything in a cart. Problem solved. If anyone can't check out in a minute, they don't deserve tickets. And that'll stop us from having to refresh for an hour and 15 minutes!!!
    I agree with the time limit. Not sure about how much time. Maybe 2 minutes.
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  • Running In The Dark
    Running In The Dark Denver Posts: 720
    edited July 2009
    Lizardjam wrote:
    strummers wrote:
    Lizardjam wrote:
    I'd almost like to add a location restriction. It really cuts down on the ability for locals to see a show when some fan members follow the band around the country. They have high numbers usually and I see the SAME people in the front row. Over and over. It's frustrating.

    Location restriction doesn't work - what about those people who are unlucky enough to never be near a PJ show - that means they would never be able to get 10c tickets - if needed a better restriction would be a ticket restriction (1 pair per tour/country/area or 2 per tour etc).


    I agree. I posted again with that....one show per tour. I would want anyone that can't see them locally to travel...but not the ones that do nothing but travel and consequently locals get shut out.

    I could not disagree with these statements anymore. I've worked very hard in my life and I'm fortunate enough to have the time and means to go see Pearl Jam anytime, anywhere. But because I don't live in a certain geographical location I should not have the CHANCE to get tickets with the membership I'm been paying for for 17 years?

    I do agree that the system has it's flaws, most do. But to restrict tickets to a geographical location is more unfair than the current system. However I would like to see rows 1-10 allocated by seniority to the "locals" for any given show and rows 11 and higher by seniority to the "travelers". Just my $.02
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    NoelMichael wrote:
    Just put a 1 minute time limit on anything in a cart. Problem solved. If anyone can't check out in a minute, they don't deserve tickets. And that'll stop us from having to refresh for an hour and 15 minutes!!!
    I agree with the time limit. Not sure about how much time. Maybe 2 minutes.

    Good call.

    Also having less navigation on the website and fewer buttons to press and fewer graphics to download would result in less time being spent on the server.
  • PearlJamPatriot
    PearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    Yea, they should just have a completely different site for Pearl Jam tickets. Take it out of the Goods section. Have it be its own page or site completely. So once you are on, the first and only thing you can do is order tickets.
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