Jack White/ThirdMan/THE VAULT

tempo_n_groove

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

The problem with that is "everyone is concerned"... all the time...

The new youth of today are even worse though.  Everything gets posted on Insta...

HughFreakingDillon

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

The problem with that is "everyone is concerned"... all the time...

The new youth of today are even worse though.  Everything gets posted on Insta...

that's a mass generalization. no, we are not concerned all the time. fuck, I got major blowback from people I know regarding how young I let my kids be home alone. that's the reason I got a phone and got my oldest daughter one as well. so she can contact me if there's an emergency. 

and I just said that, as a parent and a phone-owner/hater, I have no issue exiting the concert venue to check my phone if necessary. I think more artists should do this. And I think most reasonable parents also would have no issue with this. 

tempo_n_groove

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

The problem with that is "everyone is concerned"... all the time...

The new youth of today are even worse though.  Everything gets posted on Insta...

that's a mass generalization. no, we are not concerned all the time. fuck, I got major blowback from people I know regarding how young I let my kids be home alone. that's the reason I got a phone and got my oldest daughter one as well. so she can contact me if there's an emergency. 

and I just said that, as a parent and a phone-owner/hater, I have no issue exiting the concert venue to check my phone if necessary. I think more artists should do this. And I think most reasonable parents also would have no issue with this. 

I'm only busting balls.  No need to justify it, lol!  Can't please everyone right?!?

PJ_Soul

tempo_n_groove said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

At most events my phone stays in my pocket whether it vibrates or not.  I actually hate fielding a phone call in crowded area...

Since I keep my phone in my purse, I don't even know if it rings or vibrates during a show, and I don't care. I rarely pull my phone out. I know the only photo I took at the last PJ show I went to was of the microphone in front of me, before the show even started, lol. Once the band's on stage, I forget I even own a phone half the time. If I'm allowed I might remember to pull it out for a quick photo or two (with my hand covering the screen so that people behind aren't bothered), but that's it. I think these phone bag things is a fantastic idea. I'd be thrilled if all venues started doing it as a matter of course, whether the artist requests it or not. Phones ruin concerts, and that isn't fair.

Hobbes

I keep my phone in my pocket. I like it when it vibrates.

PJ_Soul

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

derbydave

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

How did you deal with the parental concerns Mike??

tempo_n_groove

TY to Mcgruff with helping me get tickets!

lolobugg

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

Dave Chappelle used these on his last tour. no problem at all. quick in and quick to retrieve my phone.

Horos

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

I attended many shows pre cell phone days when my kids were young. Emergencies may arise so I always left them with someone equipped to deal with an emergency. Pretty simple. We all got along fine without access to a phone.

JK_Livin

Horos said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

I attended many shows pre cell phone days when my kids were young. Emergencies may arise so I always left them with someone equipped to deal with an emergency. Pretty simple. We all got along fine without access to a phone.

I understand that completely but with technology, I don't need to get someone to watch my kids. I'm not someone that records or takes pics of artists, it's annoying to me. Will Jack let me take my attention off of him to go buy a beer?  

mcgruff10

derbydave said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

How did you deal with the parental concerns Mike??

For those that don't know we have five kids so my wife was definitely a little nervous.  However I convinced her that the kids were in good hands since they were divided up between our parents and the show was going to be no more than two hours.  Plus pushing a third beer on her at dinner definitely helped calm her down! lol.

mcgruff10

tempo_n_groove said:

TY to Mcgruff with helping me get tickets!

Enjoy the show bud!!!  

PJ_Soul

lolobugg said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

Dave Chappelle used these on his last tour. no problem at all. quick in and quick to retrieve my phone.

Cool. I think I'm paranoid about this stuff because the staff at our big concert venues are generally poorly informed and poorly trained and seem to really have a tough time dealing with fucking anything a lot of the time. Just because things go smoothly elsewhere, it doesn't mean it will go smoothly here, lol. Although the arena, where Jack's playing, is a lot better than the stadium next door. Those people have no idea wtf is going on most of the time.

PJ_Soul

JK_Livin said:

Horos said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

I attended many shows pre cell phone days when my kids were young. Emergencies may arise so I always left them with someone equipped to deal with an emergency. Pretty simple. We all got along fine without access to a phone.

I understand that completely but with technology, I don't need to get someone to watch my kids. I'm not someone that records or takes pics of artists, it's annoying to me. Will Jack let me take my attention off of him to go buy a beer?  

This is not to try and control people like you and me or anyone else who isn't an idiot. It's to take care of all the inconsiderate assholes who aren't able to control themselves and will happily spend the whole show holding a phone in front of a stranger's face while taking flash photos the whole show when the flash is literally useless. I'm glad Jack wants to shut those jerks down for sure, and I'll do whatever it takes to help.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

derbydave said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

How did you deal with the parental concerns Mike??

For those that don't know we have five kids so my wife was definitely a little nervous.  However I convinced her that the kids were in good hands since they were divided up between our parents and the show was going to be no more than two hours.  Plus pushing a third beer on her at dinner definitely helped calm her down! lol.

Damn. It must be hard to be a parent these days if technology has made some of them feel like if they CAN be reachable 24/7, they SHOULD be reachable 24/7. It seems like quite a burden to me. I'm glad you managed to talk your wife out of that mindset for the show. I know that there are plenty of uptight parents out there who are absolutely livid about this, lol.

HughFreakingDillon

Horos said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Horos said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mrussel1 said:

JK_Livin said:

Do you get to keep this pouch on you and can you see inside to see if you have a text message? 

That's a great point.  A lot of us have kids and can't just be disconnected for an entire show.  Moving to the designated area sucks because of the GA issue.  I'm going to the Anthem which is basically all GA.  So you leave, your're done and in the back.  I'm not down with this strategy.  

It's amazing that are parents were able to do anything before cell phones...

How did anybody do anything before cell phones?

If you can't be disconnected for a few hours you have no business being there in the first place.

that's a bit harsh. the fact is, we come to rely on the technology that is available to us, and it is marketed in a way that makes you believe you need it. why not have your phone on your hip in case the babysitter has an emergency? that's not "you have no business being there". that's "I have a phone for emergency purposes". emergencies do happen. 

i hate phones at shows. I'm sure any concerned parent would have no issue leaving the venue to check a text. I know I wouldn't. I'm sure you can set a notification from a certain number so you'd know if it's an emergency or not. 

I attended many shows pre cell phone days when my kids were young. Emergencies may arise so I always left them with someone equipped to deal with an emergency. Pretty simple. We all got along fine without access to a phone.

so if one of your kids needs to be taken to the hospital, you'd rather just find out after the show instead of having that information readily available. 

of course we all got along without them. we all get along with everything before it's invented. I got along without a phone until I'm 43 and my kids are 8 and 11. my wife and I would go to shows when we didn't have a phone and my kids were infants (my wife breastfed our first in the parking lot right before an RHCP show when she was 2 months old). but it's nice to have the added security. I'm not taking it out unless I get a call, which, for me, is rare. Even then, I'm just taking it halfway out of my pocket to see who it is. If it's not my parents (looking after my kids), I don't answer it. 

pretty simple. 

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

derbydave said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

How did you deal with the parental concerns Mike??

For those that don't know we have five kids so my wife was definitely a little nervous.  However I convinced her that the kids were in good hands since they were divided up between our parents and the show was going to be no more than two hours.  Plus pushing a third beer on her at dinner definitely helped calm her down! lol.

Damn. It must be hard to be a parent these days if technology has made some of them feel like if they CAN be reachable 24/7, they SHOULD be reachable 24/7. It seems like quite a burden to me. I'm glad you managed to talk your wife out of that mindset for the show. I know that there are plenty of uptight parents out there who are absolutely livid about this, lol.

yeah smartphones are such a love/hate relationship to me.  I hate that I sometimes depend on it so much.  Back in the day I used to backpack for a week or two in the backcountry of new hampshire and new mexico without a worry in the world.  Now it's like.....oh my god my phone is at 10% and I need to go to target?! what do I do?!

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

derbydave said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone been to a show where these phone bags have been used? I'm wondering about the logistics. Doesn't it really slow down entry into the venue? How does that work? Do they lock it for you, or just quickly hand you a bag and you lock it, or what? If every person needs to stop as the staff locked up your phone I can see that taking a long time, what with all the idiots not being ready to do it quickly, stopping to put their phone on silent or whatever the fuck.

I used one of these at a tracy morgan show and it took a whole 2 seconds.  not really a big deal at all.

How did you deal with the parental concerns Mike??

For those that don't know we have five kids so my wife was definitely a little nervous.  However I convinced her that the kids were in good hands since they were divided up between our parents and the show was going to be no more than two hours.  Plus pushing a third beer on her at dinner definitely helped calm her down! lol.

Damn. It must be hard to be a parent these days if technology has made some of them feel like if they CAN be reachable 24/7, they SHOULD be reachable 24/7. It seems like quite a burden to me. I'm glad you managed to talk your wife out of that mindset for the show. I know that there are plenty of uptight parents out there who are absolutely livid about this, lol.

it's really no different than our parents age when they left phone numbers of the restaurant they were going to, the friends' house they were going to be at later, grandma's home number in case blah blah blah. 

if anything, it has given more freedom to not have to map out your entire itinerary beforehand. now it's just "I don't know where we'll be, so just call if you need something, but not to ask if you can have another cookie!".