So did EV play on 6/27 or no?

ponner1us

My opinion is...irrelevant. Eddie knows what's in his heart...

"There's no wrong or right, but I'm sure there's good and bad."

the wolf

i guess this is odd, but considering what type of Corp. it is, maybe not.

i work for a bank, if he played our corp. party i would be happy to see him but suprised and put off all at the same time. but that would be waaaaay different then playing for this Corp.

anyway, as many have said, the music ind. sucks these days. and if he does stuff like this so he can "afford" to be in PJ ( who dont make the kind of money most seem to think ) then so be it.

arq

I guess he likes to do this kind of gigs because he doesn't have to deal with drunken fans screaming and requesting songs, and at the end can spend song time there having a beer no preassure at all.

decides2dream

ponner1us wrote:

My opinion is...irrelevant. Eddie knows what's in his heart...

"There's no wrong or right, but I'm sure there's good and bad."

well said.
*thumbs up*

Catwoman1

I have a true story to lighten things up here -- hope you all enjoy it. Several years ago, Pepsi had a party for its bigwigs in Hawaii, and the entertainment was the Rolling Stones. A friend of mine works for Pepsi, and got to go with his wife & two teenage daughters. He said that they were standing in the front watching the Stones, just feet away from Mick & the boys, and one of his daughters turns to him & says "I'm bored. I'm going back to the room." And she actually did leave! He said he was mortified.

Erik Chabs

Sorry!!! one question please!!! How can insert my signature line on the posts?

LiteTheMatch

WoodenHammer wrote:

They were the Four Seasons resort in Lanai. The party was for the top 100 Oracle sales reps in the world. So it was very exclusive.

How do I upload the photo?

So you are saying that you work for a computer software company, but do not know how to upload a photo to the Internet?

WoodenHammer

LiteTheMatch wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

They were the Four Seasons resort in Lanai. The party was for the top 100 Oracle sales reps in the world. So it was very exclusive.

How do I upload the photo?

So you are saying that you work for a computer software company, but do not know how to upload a photo to the Internet?

Ya, pretty much. I sell the stuff, no clue how it all works.

walkunafraid

It took me a while to figure out why I am so upset by this, but I think I finally have it.

Ed is a grown ass man, and like any grown ass man, he has a right to his own decisions.

That being said, this hurts me.

One of the great pleasures of being a PJ/Ed fan is the feeling of intimacy we feel with the music and the band. Everything about the band's live shows -- the revolving setlists, the connection between the fans and the band, the connection between the fans themselves -- gives a PJ/Ed show an aura of spirituality and intimacy.

Having gone to two Ed solo shows last year, I can say that beyond the music itself (which was absolutely beautiful), the feeling of intimacy as Ed was sitting on stage with his guitar and his voice with a crowd of awed, reverent audience members (most of whom knew every word to every song he played) was indescribable. There was a connection there that felt like it could only be shared between the man onstage and the people who had spent years faithfully following him and the band. The same can be said for any PJ show I have been to.

So the thought of Ed playing for a bunch of 30- and 40- something corporate workers, most (all?) of whom probably know nothing about his music beyond the radio hits, hurts. It hurts to think of Ed sitting in a room full of Oracle corporate workers rolling through Society, and Hard Sun, and Guaranteed, and I am Mine, and all the other songs he plays solo that always felt like they only belonged in a small, intimate setting with a group of PJ fans who really understood what they were all about.

(I haven't seen a setlist, but please, please tell me he didn't play Arc for the corporate gig...).

I don't mean to be a baby here, and as I said before, Ed certainly has a right to play for whoever he wants. I don't know the man personally so he doesn't need my approval or justification for anything he does (obviously).

I can see why this news would be insignificant to a fan for whom Pearl Jam means music, period. But for fans who feel like the band means something beyond just music, it certainly resonates. I just hope this was a one time thing (done to donate money to charity, or as a personal favor, perhaps). Only that could lessen the sting of the whole thing.

SOLAT319

arq wrote:

I guess he likes to do this kind of gigs because he doesn't have to deal with drunken fans screaming and requesting songs, and at the end can spend song time there having a beer no preassure at all.

You can find "stupid" and "asshole" in any crowd whether it's a corporate party or a Tenc members only show.

leadbedr10

^^^^^
Why do you all assume that these people have no idea who EV is?
30-40 age group?
Have you ever been to a pj show?
Im 37 and i think im about the average age at most of the shows ive been to.

arq

You're absolutely right, there's asshole everywhere.

embrace

I appreciate and agree with much of what you say here- esp regarding the intimacy and the connection...sometimes (for me) I don't want to name it, I just want to feel it and when it speaks directly to my soul, I carry it with me. I do not respond to discount your feelings in any way as I think you worded yours well. The thing about this gig that I find cool, just as the deal with Target, is the potential to expose the exact people you mention to the world I (and you?) have experienced. If it were to resonate and spread like wildfire (or disease) then how killer would that be? If people, esp those in top sales who have a knack of influencing others, are exposed or have new access when they may not have in their day to day worlds isn't that growing the "good"? Perhaps it doesn't quell the sting or hurt, but it's just a thought...

walkunafraid wrote:

It took me a while to figure out why I am so upset by this, but I think I finally have it.

Ed is a grown ass man, and like any grown ass man, he has a right to his own decisions.

That being said, this hurts me.

One of the great pleasures of being a PJ/Ed fan is the feeling of intimacy we feel with the music and the band. Everything about the band's live shows -- the revolving setlists, the connection between the fans and the band, the connection between the fans themselves -- gives a PJ/Ed show an aura of spirituality and intimacy.

Having gone to two Ed solo shows last year, I can say that beyond the music itself (which was absolutely beautiful), the feeling of intimacy as Ed was sitting on stage with his guitar and his voice with a crowd of awed, reverent audience members (most of whom knew every word to every song he played) was indescribable. There was a connection there that felt like it could only be shared between the man onstage and the people who had spent years faithfully following him and the band. The same can be said for any PJ show I have been to.

So the thought of Ed playing for a bunch of 30- and 40- something corporate workers, most (all?) of whom probably know nothing about his music beyond the radio hits, hurts. It hurts to think of Ed sitting in a room full of Oracle corporate workers rolling through Society, and Hard Sun, and Guaranteed, and I am Mine, and all the other songs he plays solo that always felt like they only belonged in a small, intimate setting with a group of PJ fans who really understood what they were all about.

(I haven't seen a setlist, but please, please tell me he didn't play Arc for the corporate gig...).

I don't mean to be a baby here, and as I said before, Ed certainly has a right to play for whoever he wants. I don't know the man personally so he doesn't need my approval or justification for anything he does (obviously).

I can see why this news would be insignificant to a fan for whom Pearl Jam means music, period. But for fans who feel like the band means something beyond just music, it certainly resonates. I just hope this was a one time thing (done to donate money to charity, or as a personal favor, perhaps). Only that could lessen the sting of the whole thing.

PJSEMPRE

Jeanwah wrote:

I don't think anyone's really upset about it. More like surprised and disappointed, for sure.

Agree with you. I'm really disappointed.
This picture seems so fake now. http://www.pearljamonline.it/FOTO/2003/NM/4.jpg

quelquefois

During the 90's there were a lot of people who questioned the authenticity of the band and their music... one of the ways I think they "proved" themselves to the mainstream was negotiating that fine line between opting in/opting out with a lot of skill (although, there will always be people who think they could have done more, and there will always be people who really don't care about any of the behind the scenes politics at all).

But I do find some of the recent business decisions to be confusing, to say the least. To be fair, Oracle seems like a decent company with a good social conscience... and Target is definitely more philanthropic than the other Big Box stores... but i guess i keep thinking about the tour in 2000, which was really meaningful for me, because the message seemed to be that if you were given the choice between Option Evil A and Option Evil B... then Choose Option C (none of the above).

I don't know... a lot has changed since 2000, and even more so since the 90's. I generally trust Ed's judgement (in terms of his ability to make his own decisions). I would never substitute it for my own, but I'm gonna try to suspend my criticism for a little while, and see what happens.

U R A Crazy Breed

NothingIsEverything. wrote:

I generally trust Ed's judgement (in terms of his ability to make his own decisions). I would never substitute it for my own, but I'm gonna try to suspend my criticism for a little while, and see what happens.

agrees totally.

WaveCameCrashin

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :? :? :? :?

ECM

I wouldn't mind working for Oracle... nice pay...

vedderfan10

At what point did some of you turn from "Ed fans" to "Ed owners"?

I work for a large corporation and I'm older than 20 - does that mean I can't be a Pearl Jam fan because I coulnd't possibly connect with their music. What's with the discrimination regarding employment? Sounds like jealousy to me.

Worry about lining your own pockets....

leduntitled

You know, it is possible a friend of his was at the gathering and asked him to play.