So did EV play on 6/27 or no?

VINNY GOOMBA

Guess who's playing the Superbowl next year!

given2fly23

JimmyV wrote:

...and because these guys are sales reps they know nothing about any of that? Sorry, I can't believe that is true.

great point. not all fans of this band live on the Pit. as a matter of fact...nevermind, I'll keep my opinion of this board to myself.

what if he played a show for the Estate Planning Lawyers of Lake County? I'd be there, but everyone who wasnt would assume it was just a bunch of d-bags who wanted to hear Better Man.

and why do you think the band is back into playing festivals? easy $. this is America. let them make money so they can continue to make music. they were naive back in the day. they have seen the light. just because you make good money doesnt make you evil.

FW46778

Pearl Jam Superbowl Setlist:

Even Flow
New Song
Alive
Rockin' in the free World

You heard it here first.

OffMeGoes

Jeeeeeeez ........ Just expressing a feeling more than an opinion. Something just doesnt feel right....... I'm not bringing up whether he has a right to do it, or if the world is going to collapse.... It is just one of those things that is not expected, so it takes some time to digest and recalibrate a few things. I dont know or pretend to know the band, but I do have an image of them and what they stand for. Not everything they do lines up with that image. All I am saying is that on a list of 100 musicians, I would have put Eddie at the bottom of the list of "most likely to play a corporate gig". Maybe I was naive, maybe I was blinded by something.....who knows, who cares...... I just won't stop saying something feels "off" because you guys grunt and say yes yes yes to everything that happens. And, unlike what is being written by people that are not taking a second to scratch their heads, I am not saying you are wrong. Fuck......counseling 101. Let me feel what I feel.

Okay, now I feel happy.

ahahahahha......... everyone lighten up......people do weird shit.....it's like what Richard Pryor once said....."money is like cocaine, too much is not enough.."

DewieCox

He's played stuff like this before, so forget all those great moments those fuckin sellouts have given you since then. :roll:

VINNY GOOMBA

FW46778 wrote:

Pearl Jam Superbowl Setlist:

Even Flow
New Song
Alive
Rockin' in the free World

You heard it here first.

New Song = Britney Spears Medley.

Rossum20

whose nipple is getting exposed? My guess is Matt hops over the drum kit and rips off boom's shirt. You heard it here first.

CJMST3K

I think they crossed into this realm when they booked the casino gig at the Borgata.

Nothing new... and I'd bet he's keeping most or all of the money.

Keep in mind, his manager makes a percentage and his agent makes a percentage, plus he has a touring crew to pay for and travel expenses.

He's making some serious dough, but he's got expenses too.

I'm uncomfortable with this notoriously anti-corporate/anti-sponsorship band doing a complete 180 turnaround - however, I try to keep in mind that with the illegal file sharing that eats into their pockets with record sales, I suppose they are trying to make it up on the other end of things.

Capricorn Sister

WoodenHammer wrote:

Here he is with my VP's 3 sons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39970628@N07/3675555507/

Do they even know who he is :?:

acutejam

I'm thinkin' 2012 Republican National Convention is gonna be a hot ticket for him! Those dudes are LOADED!

But seriously, family/kids in the picture -- I don't begrudge him a penny of making money from his art any way he wants. And with the file sharing aspect, falling CD sales, etc is a good point -- gotta branch out. And it's not like he going to STOP doing great things for charities, foundations and causes. Not like he's gonna stop speaking his mind and backing it up.

Perhaps we can see him as just a lil' bit of Robin Hood, neh?

Yellow Bedwetter

WoodenHammer wrote:

I don't really blame him at all. He was probably already in Hawaii and he gets to go pick up a few hundred grand for a short set to a small audience, then gets to hang out and stay at the Four Seasons in Lanai for free. Who wouldn't do that? I sure as hell would.

i agree

i still dont understand some ppl on here that still like to bitch...calling your favorite singer a sellout and acting like a teenager (no offense) and people ranting about 3.5 yrs for 36 minutes.....i'd rather have "ramones" and "doors" type 3 minute songs instead of drawn out, lengthy songs like Come Back and Parachutes (no offense) but that's just the way i feel and i didn't mean to put down your profession. Sorry for cursing. --my version of Seth from Superbad--

CreedDisease

I was not very familiar with Oracle as a corporation, so i googled them to see if they are indeed an "evil" corporation.... It looks to me like they are active in the enviroment, food for women's shelters, and education... Similar charities the band is interested in... Not all corporations are evil... I hear a bunch about target too, how many millions have they raised and donoated to United Way?... I don't know, I think it is a very nice thing that Ed and the company did for their top performers; the company was not a greedy corporation in that they spent this money to reward their employees. And what a treat! I went to a similar gig for wells fargo in hawaii a few years ago. We had Sheryl Crow, but i wished it were Pearl Jam!

WoodenHammer

I'm just pissed that the years I made it we got Counting Crowes in the Bahamas, Elvis Costello in Vegas, and Roger Daltrey in Banff. The one year that they make it much more difficult to qualify, due to the recession and restricted budgets and all, they get Eddie freaking Vedder. It's like god slapped me in the face.

But, I stand by Oracle as a pretty respectable corporation. They do lots for the green technology movement, tons of women's and LGBT promotion in the workplace, very active Volunteer community, local clean up projects in the Bay Area quite often, etc... So, it's not like he is getting paid by some lumber company or some evil corporation that he has attacked in the past.

And the more I think about it, he probably had a blast. Real small, everyone is partying/celebrating on vacation, and in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Average age is probably mid 30's to mid 40's, so the folks there are really familiar with Ed and probably rocked out pretty hard with him. Must have been a killer party.

given2fly23

WoodenHammer wrote:

I'm just pissed that the years I made it we got Counting Crowes in the Bahamas, Elvis Costello in Vegas, and Roger Daltrey in Banff. The one year that they make it much more difficult to qualify, due to the recession and restricted budgets and all, they get Eddie freaking Vedder. It's like god slapped me in the face.

do they tell the "winners" ahead of time who is going to be there, or is it a secret until the show starts?

WoodenHammer wrote:

And the more I think about it, he probably had a blast. Real small, everyone is partying/celebrating on vacation, and in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Average age is probably mid 30's to mid 40's, so the folks there are really familiar with Ed and probably rocked out pretty hard with him. Must have been a killer party.

after seeing how crowds behave at PJ and EV shows and how every little thing is examined under a microscope by the fanbase, he's probably relieved to be at a show where everyone just has fun regardless of what he plays and how he plays it (or what color pants he's wearing).

the only sad thing is that exclusive shows used to be for fans/fanclub members. wish they would do more of those.

kiljoythemerciful

non-entity wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

I'm just pissed that the years I made it we got Counting Crowes in the Bahamas, Elvis Costello in Vegas, and Roger Daltrey in Banff. The one year that they make it much more difficult to qualify, due to the recession and restricted budgets and all, they get Eddie freaking Vedder. It's like god slapped me in the face.

do they tell the "winners" ahead of time who is going to be there, or is it a secret until the show starts?

WoodenHammer wrote:

And the more I think about it, he probably had a blast. Real small, everyone is partying/celebrating on vacation, and in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Average age is probably mid 30's to mid 40's, so the folks there are really familiar with Ed and probably rocked out pretty hard with him. Must have been a killer party.

after seeing how crowds behave at PJ and EV shows and how every little thing is examined under a microscope by the fanbase, he's probably relieved to be at a show where everyone just has fun regardless of what he plays and how he plays it (or what color pants he's wearing).

the only sad thing is that exclusive shows used to be for fans/fanclub members. wish they would do more of those.

Took the thought right outta my head.

WoodenHammer

do they tell the "winners" ahead of time who is going to be there, or is it a secret until the show starts?

they don't let you know beforehand at all. There are usually some rumors circling though. My friend that was in Lanai said "rumor has it PJ is the entertainment" about an hour before Ed came on.

I finally got to talk to him, he said Liam joined him for a few songs, and the gal (cant remember her name from the solo shows I went to last year, Liza?) and that they were all just mingling with the crowd afterwards. He did say they played a temple of the dog song, some elvis covers, dylan, springstein, and half a dozen or so PJ songs. Said he played for over an hour and a half and then hung out for about 3 hours afterwards with some friends (Slater, Finn?) and then took off at about 1 AM with his family. My friend is not a huge music nut, so I cannot get to the bottom of those tracks. And it was so exclusive, I don't know anyone else that was there to ask.

ComeToTX

WoodenHammer wrote:

do they tell the "winners" ahead of time who is going to be there, or is it a secret until the show starts?

they don't let you know beforehand at all. There are usually some rumors circling though. My friend that was in Lanai said "rumor has it PJ is the entertainment" about an hour before Ed came on.

I finally got to talk to him, he said Liam joined him for a few songs, and the gal (cant remember her name from the solo shows I went to last year, Liza?) and that they were all just mingling with the crowd afterwards. He did say they played a temple of the dog song, some elvis covers, dylan, springstein, and half a dozen or so PJ songs. Said he played for over an hour and a half and then hung out for about 3 hours afterwards with some friends (Slater, Finn?) and then took off at about 1 AM with his family. My friend is not a huge music nut, so I cannot get to the bottom of those tracks. And it was so exclusive, I don't know anyone else that was there to ask.

that's awesome! our last sales meeting was in a drury fucking inn.

EasyE

Good reporting from WoodenHammer. Thank you. An Oracle sales rep rewards event played by Vedder for big money is an interesting and comical story.

It seems fair to give Vedder some good-natured ribbing for this appearance. Maybe an "Oracle" chant like the famous "Darryl" chant from the 1986 World Series. I mean, Eddie Vedder played an annual sales meeting at a hotel ballroom. Granted, it's a sales meeting for an accomplished company's best performers at an exclusive location, but nonetheless, it's a sales meeting. Did he lead an afternoon roundtable on building brand awareness? Or was it a morning coffee on on ways to make clients commit to a big buy?

I don't feel too strongly about the Oracle appeareance but it will always be part of this tour in my mind. I dished out a fair amount of cash on tickets and a poster in Albany. And I liked the show and poster but part of the reason I was willing to listen to Ed's stories and part of the reason I could forgive all the screw ups was because I have respect his work and public persona. This appearance cuts into that respect. It seems to have been part of the tour from the beginning. I mean, why isn't the Oracle event listed on my Albany poster? He didn't invite anyone onstage in Albany but I guess I ain't no V.P.'s son.

Again, WoodenHammer, good post. Almost seems like this is watchdog journalism aimed at Pearl Jam. In other words, if the band and Vedder want this sort-of public respect, they'll be held to a higher standard. Reminds me a bit of a politican taking a lobbyist's paid junket.

Also reminds me of that line in "Society." Just a low-key little message, "You can't do that."

Back_Pedal

WoodenHammer wrote:

Yes he did. He played my companies private party in Lanai. He hung out afterwards for a few hours and had drinks around the pool. The setlist was typical Ed solo list, but more covers - i dont have it exactly but was being texted throughout. I have a photo of him playing with one of my VP's sons.

This is 100% confirmed.

For a moment, I thought you were just being a jackass, but then I saw the picture.

UpSideDown

Ed at a corporate sales event.......without knowing any other facts i would have to classify this as weird and lame.....


i work for a corporation and it is lame.