So did EV play on 6/27 or no?

ajedigecko

non-entity wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

I'm just pissed that the years I made it we got Counting Crowes in the Bahamas, Elvis Costello in Vegas, and Roger Daltrey in Banff. The one year that they make it much more difficult to qualify, due to the recession and restricted budgets and all, they get Eddie freaking Vedder. It's like god slapped me in the face.

do they tell the "winners" ahead of time who is going to be there, or is it a secret until the show starts?

WoodenHammer wrote:

And the more I think about it, he probably had a blast. Real small, everyone is partying/celebrating on vacation, and in one of the most beautiful places on earth. Average age is probably mid 30's to mid 40's, so the folks there are really familiar with Ed and probably rocked out pretty hard with him. Must have been a killer party.

after seeing how crowds behave at PJ and EV shows and how every little thing is examined under a microscope by the fanbase, he's probably relieved to be at a show where everyone just has fun regardless of what he plays and how he plays it (or what color pants he's wearing).

the only sad thing is that exclusive shows used to be for fans/fanclub members. wish they would do more of those.

well said.

Gmoney

I work in the music industry and know that in these days in times you have to do whatever you can do to make a dollar. You don't simply make an album, tour and then make tons of money. The industry is a totally different animal now. With that said, the only problem I have with this is that for the past 15 years he's been bashing corporate America. Practice what you preach my friend.

ajedigecko

another thought.........if ed did a fanclub only show and charged $300 per ticket...........those of us that can afford it would be evil and everyone would be in a pissy about ticket prices.

i hope ed does more of these shows..........

Gary Carter

EasyE wrote:

Good reporting from WoodenHammer. Thank you. An Oracle sales rep rewards event played by Vedder for big money is an interesting and comical story.

It seems fair to give Vedder some good-natured ribbing for this appearance. Maybe an "Oracle" chant like the famous "Darryl" chant from the 1986 World Series. I mean, Eddie Vedder played an annual sales meeting at a hotel ballroom. Granted, it's a sales meeting for an accomplished company's best performers at an exclusive location, but nonetheless, it's a sales meeting. Did he lead an afternoon roundtable on building brand awareness? Or was it a morning coffee on on ways to make clients commit to a big buy?

I don't feel too strongly about the Oracle appeareance but it will always be part of this tour in my mind. I dished out a fair amount of cash on tickets and a poster in Albany. And I liked the show and poster but part of the reason I was willing to listen to Ed's stories and part of the reason I could forgive all the screw ups was because I have respect his work and public persona. This appearance cuts into that respect. It seems to have been part of the tour from the beginning. I mean, why isn't the Oracle event listed on my Albany poster? He didn't invite anyone onstage in Albany but I guess I ain't no V.P.'s son.

Again, WoodenHammer, good post. Almost seems like this is watchdog journalism aimed at Pearl Jam. In other words, if the band and Vedder want this sort-of public respect, they'll be held to a higher standard. Reminds me a bit of a politican taking a lobbyist's paid junket.

Also reminds me of that line in "Society." Just a low-key little message, "You can't do that."

does it really matter if it was part of the tour. Ever think oracle did this at last minute. Your points are very weird and out there.

Jeanwah

WoodenHammer wrote:

Here he is with my VP's 3 sons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39970628@N07/3675555507/

Thanks for posting the pic.
Nice description of the event, but as the pic points out, money can buy you anything, including being upfront and center with EV at a private corporate party. :? :(

Gary Carter

Jeanwah wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

Here he is with my VP's 3 sons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39970628@N07/3675555507/

Thanks for posting the pic.
Nice description of the event, but as the pic points out, money can buy you anything, including being upfront and center with EV at a private corporate party. :? :(

or working your fucking ass off. I bet none of would be complaining if ed did this for the company you worked for. So then shut the fuck up bout it.

Jeanwah

metsfan wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

WoodenHammer wrote:

Here he is with my VP's 3 sons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39970628@N07/3675555507/

Thanks for posting the pic.
Nice description of the event, but as the pic points out, money can buy you anything, including being upfront and center with EV at a private corporate party. :? :(

or working your fucking ass off. I bet none of would be complaining if ed did this for the company you worked for. So then shut the fuck up bout it.

I notice, metsfan, that you have a problem with anyone who has an opinion that differs from your own. Last time I checked, everyone does not have a right to YOUR opinion...they have a right to their own. Deal with it, and have a nice night.

UpSideDown

metsfan wrote:

or working your fucking ass off. I bet none of would be complaining if ed did this for the company you worked for. So then shut the fuck up bout it.

I guess I wouldn't complain....but I would have the biggest WTF look on my face ever

Gary Carter

I don't have a problem with anything really. But I do have with people like yourself jenwah always bashing the band for everything they do. Wow he played for a big evil corporation, he's such a fucking sell out. I work for 2 big corporations, I guess that makes me a sell out doesn't it then.

EasyE

Metsfan, yes, it matters that the Oracle event is almost part of the tour, whether planned or not. It's a paid performance of the same type at an exclusive corporate event. It has at least a small impact on how I view that poster, which I'll still frame and hang in my house.

I agree, some of my points could be shot down. That they seem weird and "out there" is probably better than if my points were dull and normal.

The Oracle appearnce does not make Vedder a sellout. You are not a sellout because you earn a paycheck from a corporation.

It's somewhat similar to Manny's recent steroid test. It's just a slight chip off Vedder's reputation in my mind. And I believe that, as a longtime fan, it's worth knowing and WoodenHammer's insight seems accurate and valuable.

And, Metsfan, what about the Darryl Strawberry mention?

Gary Carter

EasyE wrote:

Metsfan, yes, it matters that the Oracle event is almost part of the tour, whether planned or not. It's a paid performance of the same type at an exclusive corporate event. It has at least a small impact on how I view that poster, which I'll still frame and hang in my house.

I agree, some of my points could be shot down. That they seem weird and "out there" is probably better than if my points were dull and normal.

The Oracle appearnce does not make Vedder a sellout. You are not a sellout because you earn a paycheck from a corporation.

It's somewhat similar to Manny's recent steroid test. It's just a slight chip off Vedder's reputation in my mind. And I believe that, as a longtime fan, it's worth knowing and WoodenHammer's insight seems accurate and valuable.

And, Metsfan, what about the Darryl Strawberry mention?

that's fine it matters to you and I totally can respect that. darryl was his own worst enemy. I saw darryl once as a met when I was either 4 or 5. it was his final season here in ny

Vedder_Girl77

I wish Eddie would play at my company's next corporate function...too bad my company is run by cheap bastards!!

given2fly23

I just saw Dr. Dre in a Dr. Pepper commercial, so quit yer cryin!

justam

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

Gary Carter

justam wrote:

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

no its the fact it was a big corporation. Thus it makes him a sell out
:roll:

Jeanwah

justam wrote:

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

EV has been bashing Corporate America since the beginning of Pearl Jam, Justam. All of a sudden the man who stood up for what he believed in has done a 180. That's what this is about. Practice what you preach, as EV always used to do. Not anymore though.

justam

metsfan wrote:

justam wrote:

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

no its the fact it was a big corporation. Thus it makes him a sell out
:roll:

Yeah, I guess that's it, but it's irrational to be upset about this!!! :geek:

Ok

I'm surprised noone has asked, "was there a poster for this show".....

justam

Jeanwah wrote:

justam wrote:

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

EV has been bashing Corporate America since the beginning of Pearl Jam, Justam. All of a sudden the man who stood up for what he believed in has done a 180. That's what this is about. Practice what you preach, as EV always used to do. Not anymore though.

Well, perhaps they are a less evil group than the executives of Haliburton?

Jeanwah

justam wrote:

metsfan wrote:

justam wrote:

He gave a concert and got paid. Why is this considered bad by some people?!
Isn't that what he usually does? (Give a concert, and then get paid for it.)
Is it just the fact that it was a private concert?

no its the fact it was a big corporation. Thus it makes him a sell out
:roll:

Yeah, I guess that's it, but it's irrational to be upset about this!!! :geek:

I don't think anyone's really upset about it. More like surprised and disappointed, for sure.