What's with all the animal abuse?

Anon

This story really irritates me to no end.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-p ... 9064.story

They have no business playing with a one week old puppy. The dog's eyes have not even opened yet, this thing should not have left the side of the mother. The parents of this boy are irresponsible.

Here is another, same website, a serial killer to boot.
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-c ... 8095.story

Sad society.

DesignVHL

I didn't click the link, because I am sad enough as it is regarding animal abuse and agree there are just WAY too many of these abuse stories coming out...feels like its more than usual these days too. I don't understand what is wrong with people.

Sleep.With.Innocence

I'm not going to click either. I have a heart for animals. I am a big humanitarian in that aspect, and I am hoping to become more of an animal activist as I grow older.

cincybearcat

The first story is more sad for everyone involved, not really animal abuse, in my opinion. Looks like it worked out fine though. Do you have kids?

cincybearcat

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

I have a heart for animals. I am a big humanitarian in that aspect, and I am hoping to become more of an animal activist as I grow older.

Ok, that is classic unintentional funny. I know what you mean, but what do you think "humanitarian" means?

DesignVHL

Ok I clicked on it. :P I saw this story on the news last night...it was sad but glad the little pup is ok luckily...but sometimes that is not the case.

I have a big problem with the way parents interact and introduce their family pets to their kids. Most don't take the time to care or do it right. I don't have kids yet but when I do (end of summer, yay!) I'm going to make sure to practice proper pet education and supervision. I feel that parents need to help educate their kids on animal welfare and caring - and teach them how to properly handle animals...and to NOT allow a child of a certain age to play with a pet without supervision - which I would hope most parents can decipher when their child is at an age to be trusted alone with a pet. What bugs me about this puppy situation you posted about...the parent was not supervising the child and puppy - I am surprised the mother wasn't more responsible.

Sleep.With.Innocence

cincybearcat wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

I have a heart for animals. I am a big humanitarian in that aspect, and I am hoping to become more of an animal activist as I grow older.

Ok, that is classic unintentional funny. I know what you mean, but what do you think "humanitarian" means?

"someone devoted to the promotion of human welfare and to social reforms"

I knew what I meant, I just worded it wrong. I meant it for the metaphorical value. Although if you wanted to get political humans are mammals.

Anon

Another two useless members of society....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533 ... latestnews

CJMST3K

JB811 wrote:

Another two useless members of society....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533 ... latestnews

I am a vegetarian and a strong animal rights believer. I'm also ok with the death penalty.

This is a case where both of my inclinations could be put to good use.

I say throw this pair in an oven. ...and no, I'm not joking.

weenie

CJMST3K wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Another two useless members of society....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533 ... latestnews

I am a vegetarian and a strong animal rights believer. I'm also ok with the death penalty.

This is a case where both of my inclinations could be put to good use.

I say throw this pair in an oven. ...and no, I'm not joking.

I'm with you 100%. I am veggie and pretty much like animals better than most people.

I didn't read the stories because I always get upset and depressed. When I see/hear animal abuse in the news, I pretty much have one punishment come to my mind that's far worse than death.....and since it's usually men who are perpetrating the abuse.......just use your imagination and you'll figure it out. Castration is the only thing that I can think of that would cause the most amount of pain and suffering.

People pick on animals because they are helpless and pretty much defenseless. How low can a human being stoop? Child abuse is the only other criminal act that is in the same league and for my money, the same "punishment" should be rendered.

cincybearcat

weenie wrote:

and since it's usually men who are perpetrating the abuse

It was a girl....17.

tybird

cincybearcat wrote:

weenie wrote:

and since it's usually men who are perpetrating the abuse

It was a girl....17.

...and she appears to be showing no remorse for her actions.

weenie

cincybearcat wrote:

weenie wrote:

and since it's usually men who are perpetrating the abuse

It was a girl....17.

In that instance, yes. I used the word "usually" because "usually" males are the offenders in addition to being repeat offenders. Harsh I know, and I realize that very few people would agree with me, but I really can't think of anything I really hold hatred for except animal and child abusers. :evil:

Dirtie_Frank

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

TravisTheSky

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

Male calves and pigs have their testicles torn out without anaesthesia. Cattle are branded, and horns are lopped off. Pigs have their tails sliced off. Chicks have the tips of their sensitive beaks cut off so that they don't peck each other to death when crammed into standing room-only battery cages.

Delicious!

weenie

TravisTheSky wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

Male calves and pigs have their testicles torn out without anaesthesia. Cattle are branded, and horns are lopped off. Pigs have their tails sliced off. Chicks have the tips of their sensitive beaks cut off so that they don't peck each other to death when crammed into standing room-only battery cages.

Delicious!

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure

CJMST3K

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

If you're not supposed to rape women, why do they have compatible sex organs?

cincybearcat

weenie wrote:

TravisTheSky wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

Male calves and pigs have their testicles torn out without anaesthesia. Cattle are branded, and horns are lopped off. Pigs have their tails sliced off. Chicks have the tips of their sensitive beaks cut off so that they don't peck each other to death when crammed into standing room-only battery cages.

Delicious!

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure

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Save the chickens...kill the babys. Yep that makes more sense.

dimitrispearljam

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure [/quote]

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Save the chickens...kill the babys. Yep that makes more sense. [/quote]

weenie

cincybearcat wrote:

weenie wrote:

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure

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Save the chickens...kill the babys. Yep that makes more sense.

What you obviously missed, is that people who think fetuses shouldn't be killed, don't mind maiming and killing living animals. All life should be considered sacred. But I don't expect you to understand that philosophy judging from some of the posts I've seen from you on various threads. :roll:

g under p

The abuse of animals has been happening all along, it's just that in past few years high profile personalities have been caught in their abuse.

Peace

PearlJain

I'm just glad people are finally becoming aware of what they (in the past) have hastlily "forked" into their mouths with literally no thought in their process. Awareness is a huge start. Abuse, by definition, is NEVER acceptible. The animals may not Thank You personally, however - they will remain alive- regardless. That in and of itself - should be "Thanks" enough.

PearlJain

dimitrispearljam wrote:

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure

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Save the chickens...kill the babys. Yep that makes more sense. [/quote]
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Complet Oxy-Moron. Therefore -Please tell me you laugh for this reason. Killing living things is never a laughing matter. Perhaps you are applying for the "Comedian" position at the local abortion clinic?

dunkman

PearlJain wrote:

Complet Oxy-Moron. Therefore -Please tell me you laugh for this reason. Killing living things is never a laughing matter. Perhaps you are applying for the "Comedian" position at the local abortion clinic?

you're right... i watched the Saddam hanging on youtube... thought it was genuinely fucking awful... i only gave it 3 stars.

dcfaithful

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

I'm not going to click either. I have a heart for animals. I am a big humanitarian in that aspect, and I am hoping to become more of an animal activist as I grow older.

That's great man, but may I ask...why wait until you're older?? The more time you have to learn and participate, the better and more productive you'll become.

My girlfriend really turned me onto the activism side of animal rights, and I guess, even animal rights as a whole...before hand it was something I never payed attention to...but I'm gladt hat I had my eyes opened for me. Also, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about, but I'm just goign to say it because it's a big step/part for people who become animal activists. Having a vegetarian diet has been nothing but great..

Now of course, you don't have to be a veggie, and I'm not in any way trying to influence your decision...but just giving my two cents on the subject. If you're considering it at some point, but worried about "what will I eat and where will I get my nutrients?", you'll have no problems.

dcfaithful

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

You have meat on your bones...can I serve you for dinner at my table?

dcfaithful

weenie wrote:

TravisTheSky wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

If you are not supposed to eat animals why are they made of meat?

Male calves and pigs have their testicles torn out without anaesthesia. Cattle are branded, and horns are lopped off. Pigs have their tails sliced off. Chicks have the tips of their sensitive beaks cut off so that they don't peck each other to death when crammed into standing room-only battery cages.

Delicious!

All for the sake of the bottom line. There is no humanity in the food industry, yet many of these people are devoted pro-lifers. Go figure

It's a shame that a lot of the things taht go on in slaughter houses aren't brought to a forefront for people to see...I think a lot of people would feel the absolute disgust if they were able to.

Thank God for the government for protecting us from all the information that would probably help us make a better decision in the end.

jlew24asu

weenie wrote:

What you obviously missed, is that people who think fetuses shouldn't be killed, don't mind maiming and killing living animals. All life should be considered sacred. But I don't expect you to understand that philosophy judging from some of the posts I've seen from you on various threads. :roll:

animals and humans are not equal. we are superior to them. they are lower on the food chain. but I dont expect you to understand that

decides2dream

jlew24asu wrote:

weenie wrote:

What you obviously missed, is that people who think fetuses shouldn't be killed, don't mind maiming and killing living animals. All life should be considered sacred. But I don't expect you to understand that philosophy judging from some of the posts I've seen from you on various threads. :roll:

animals and humans are not equal. we are superior to them. they are lower on the food chain. but I dont expect you to understand that

understand it....or simply have a difference of opinion on it?
there IS a difference ya know. we have superior intelligence and higher on the food chain, you bet. doesn't stop us from getting eaten/killed by far 'inferior' species. point is, the idea of our superiority is just that; our idea. there are some people who do not think as you do. and sure, the vast majority of humans do think as you do, as do most species think of themselves first. however, as humans with this extra brain power we can choose to think differently if we so desire.


i personally do not consider life sacred per se, human or otherwise. life just *is*....and we're fortunate to enjoy it. however, i do believe we should try and avoid cruelty at all costs, if/when we can....human or otherwise.

Dirtie_Frank

I have an idea save a cow eat a vegetarian.

weenie

jlew24asu wrote:

weenie wrote:

What you obviously missed, is that people who think fetuses shouldn't be killed, don't mind maiming and killing living animals. All life should be considered sacred. But I don't expect you to understand that philosophy judging from some of the posts I've seen from you on various threads. :roll:

animals and humans are not equal. we are superior to them. they are lower on the food chain. but I dont expect you to understand that

I understand why you might think that way, I just happen to disagree. To say that man is superior is just an egocentric viewpoint. Even if you were to gauge "superiority" by intelligence, wouldn't that make it our responsibility to care for the existence of those who are less so; to do the best we can to protect the innocent and less worldly - just as we do for children? And as to superior intelligence - there is some evidence that Dolphins (porpoises) are as intelligent as man, if not moreso.

:geek: If beings from another planet who were more highly evolved and vastly more intelligent came to earth and started killing and eating humans, would you think their "superiority" gave them the right to do so?

Just for the record, the comment I made which you copied into your last post wasn't directed at you.