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10 reasons PJ is Better than Metallica

DedvwDedvw Posts: 245
edited December 2013 in The Porch
Hello all,

I am writing a "10 reasons why PJ is better than Metallica" list in my company newsletter. My boss, is writing a "10 reasons Metallica is better than PJ" list in return. I have just about completed the list but am looking for some good ideas that I could put on my list. Please help.

And a quick FYI, I'm not writing cause Metallica sucks as a reason : )

Thanks forum members.
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    OceanInDisguise13OceanInDisguise13 Behind the sun Posts: 919
    1-They have better, cooler fans who know very, very detailed information (Such as how many times has a song been played since released, if at all)

    2-Their tour posters are very nice works of art

    3-PJ band members are great guys who support great causes

    4-The Ten C
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    jubilairesjljubilairesjl Posts: 497
    Our lead singer has not gone through rehab.

    Our drummer is not a prima donna.
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    jets521jets521 Posts: 804
    lina319 wrote:
    1-They have better, cooler fans who know very, very detailed information (Such as how many times has a song been played since released, if at all)

    this is a foolish statement
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    deskilladeskilla Posts: 279
    less coverage from media(but not lately)
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    mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    10 reasons
    i'll give you five twice
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    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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    EddieMcCreadyEddieMcCready Posts: 337
    jubilairesjl wrote:
    Our drummer is not a prima donna.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    fox_mulderXfox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    bob rock never produced a pj album


    but i like metallica pre "black" days. everything after that is just weak
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    HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
    PJ didn't make a self-promoting documentary about themselves going through band therapy. Oh and one more thing...BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

    That being said, once upon a time Metallica was a great band. Then they became more concerned with hair gel and profit margin and began churning out formulaic crap produced by Bob Rock. They never should have canned Newsted.
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    B-RockB-Rock Posts: 149
    Pearl Jam can play in time.

    (even if it is sped up a lot)
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    brolocobroloco Posts: 1,237
    love both bands so this is tough...but ...PJ don't rely on or need falling Lady Justices, falling stuntmen, falling coffins, smoke, fireworks, etc. at their concerts. they simply play their awesome music. end of
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    B-RockB-Rock Posts: 149
    Also Pearl Jam albums have audible bass
    :D
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    deskilladeskilla Posts: 279
    same bassist and same guitarists since they begun
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    RaidenRaiden Posts: 137
    Tough call as they are my fave 2 bands. I would rate them both as better in certain areas:

    Pros for PJ
    Varied setlists (although Metallica finally started doing this last tour)
    Shows feel more natural and less rehearsed (James always says the same thing during sets)
    10C seniority for tickets

    Pros for Metallica
    Fan Club is way better value for money
    They do Meet & Greets before every show

    Other than the above, I really cant split the 2 bands. Love them both and they both put on amazing live shows.

    As for Lina's comments
    1-They have better, cooler fans who know very, very detailed information (Such as how many times has a song been played since released, if at all)
    ** You will find that both bands have same level of fanatics who follow the band all over the world and know everything about them**

    2-Their tour posters are very nice works of art
    ** This is true **

    3-PJ band members are great guys who support great causes
    ** Metallica do the same but dont seek the spotlight like many bands/stars (eg Bono) **

    4-The Ten C
    ** As I mentioned above, the Metallica fan club is a lot better than PJ **

    I'm just glad both bands are still rocking today as there is nothing much in the way of new music that can compare to PJ & Metallica.
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,496
    It's a weird comparison. Metallica does one thing - metal. PJ can play hard, but have a huge variety of sounds.

    Metallica can surely play a heavy metal song better than PJ, but PJ can do everything else better.

    So, there's one reason. That said, Fade To Black sure is fucking spectacular. 8-)
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    Oceans 98Oceans 98 Posts: 232
    edited February 2011
    Ive had this argument with my metal head friends on many occasions.

    -Pearl Jam are better to their fans, giving fan club dibs on best seats at shows.
    -Pearl Jam condones a majority of online music trading unlike Metallica who did all they could to take down Napster.
    -Pearl jam are more diverse, they can write as many good ballads as heavy rock songs.
    -Pearl Jam are MUCH better live... Metallica live sounds like you popped in a CD with the same guitar solo's, harmonies, etc. However, Pearl Jam live, every track sounds different every show, never had the same set-list twice, and they play MANY more songs at a show compared to Metallica.
    -Metallica has released nine albums in 29 years, Pearl jam has released nine albums in 19 years... more critically acclaimed music in less time.
    -Pearl Jam tours almost every year. Metallica always takes a couple years off after a tour.
    -Pearl Jam have never self imploded and lost any core members. Metallica, present day have only Lars and James left as original members.
    -Pearl Jam make the music they want to make, Metallica makes music they think people want to hear.
    -For a mere 10 bucks, you can download almost any show pearl jam has played and through some private fan sites any show before '08 are free (gremmie.net).
    -Last but most importantly, Pearl Jam aren't self absorbed assholes.
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    EddieMcCreadyEddieMcCready Posts: 337
    #1 Reason - Pearl Jam didnt sellout like Metallica :!: :!:
    "THEY USE FORCE TO MAKE YOU DO WHAT THE DECIDERS HAVE DECIDED YOU MUST DO!" ~ Zach De La Rocha



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    fox_mulderXfox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    deskilla wrote:
    same bassist and same guitarists since they begun


    that's a little unfair being that pearl jam has had 37 different drummers and metallica has only had 1.
    not to mention, cliff burton was killed... can't use that against them. and dave mustaine was booted during the infancy stages of the band.
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    AnarmyofpeaceAnarmyofpeace Posts: 254
    The band I like is better than the band you like. My dad can beat up your dad.
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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    Pearl Jam fans are more awesome!!!!!!!! :D
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    SavedFuckerSavedFucker Posts: 215
    I'll give you 4 reasons: Pete Townshend, Neil Young, Johnny Ramone and Robert Plant
    i'll trade you my tee shirt for a grilled cheese
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    RaidenRaiden Posts: 137
    Disagree with many of these statements. Comments below
    Neuge wrote:
    Ive had this argument with my metal head friends on many occasions.

    -Pearl Jam are better to their fans, giving fan club dibs on best seats at shows.
    Metallica do meet & greets every single show-Pearl jam are more diverse, they can write as many good ballads as heavy rock songs.
    Early Metallica songwriting was brilliant and something PJ have never come close to imo-Pearl Jam are MUCH better live... Metallica live sounds like you popped in a CD with the same guitar solo's, harmonies, etc. However, Pearl Jam live, every track sounds different every show, never had the same set-list twice, and they play MANY more songs at a show compared to Metallica.
    Both awesome live but do agree that PJ mix it up more-Metallica has released nine albums in 29 years, Pearl jam has released nine albums in 19 years... more critically acclaimed music in less time.
    Tough call given Metallica's first 4 albums were far from commercial albums, where as Ten was straight out rock album. Metallica still have biggest selling album of 2 bands (Black)-Pearl Jam tours almost every year. Metallica always takes a couple years off after a tour.
    Metallica tour a lot of places PJ dont. I would say Metallica are bigger in more countries than PJ.-Pearl Jam have never self imploded and lost any core members. Metallica, present day have only Lars and James left as original members.
    I would argue that James & Lars are the core members-Pearl Jam make the music they want to make, Metallica makes music they think people want to hear.
    People wanted to hear St Anger???-For a mere 10 bucks, you can download almost any show pearl jam has played and through some private fan sites any show before '08 are free (gremmie.net).
    You can also download Metallica shows a day or 2 after the show-Last but most importantly, Pearl Jam aren't self absorbed assholes.
    I've met Metallica and they are very cool & down to earth. Yes Lars is eccentric but it is him who pushes the meet & greets before every show cause he actually does care about the fans.
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    DedvwDedvw Posts: 245
    Anarmyofpeace wrote:
    The band I like is better than the band you like. My dad can beat up your dad.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica (seen them live a couple times). Read some of my old posts, I don't wear a big music authority badge. My boss and I don't hold arguing matches over whos better. This is all for fun in a company newsletter we have at work.
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    HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
    Tori Amos was never in Pearl Jam

    main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=742&g2_serialNumber=3g
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    DedvwDedvw Posts: 245
    novocaintongue wrote:
    Tori Amos was never in Pearl Jam

    main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=742&g2_serialNumber=3g


    Hilarious...you mind if I use this one?
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    this is like comparing a hummer to a corvette

    Both a great bands. When PJ goes through the shit for as long as Metallica has get back to me.

    I love them both, and they both have a lot to offer fans musically and through there services associated with the band.

    Just because Lars is a shmuck from time to time doesn't mean they suck, nor that the singer has been through rehab, as MICHAEL McCready has been to rehab- see mad season

    get off Metallica's back and appreicate Pearl Jam.

    Metallica has many many things that are better than PJ, and vise-versa
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    Oceans 98Oceans 98 Posts: 232
    I like Metallica's albums for the most part and I totally agree that St. Anger stinks and is by far their worst album, but besides that we will have to agree to disagree.
    Raiden wrote:
    Disagree with many of these statements. Comments below
    Neuge wrote:
    Ive had this argument with my metal head friends on many occasions.

    -Pearl Jam are better to their fans, giving fan club dibs on best seats at shows.
    Metallica do meet & greets every single show-Pearl jam are more diverse, they can write as many good ballads as heavy rock songs.
    Early Metallica songwriting was brilliant and something PJ have never come close to imo-Pearl Jam are MUCH better live... Metallica live sounds like you popped in a CD with the same guitar solo's, harmonies, etc. However, Pearl Jam live, every track sounds different every show, never had the same set-list twice, and they play MANY more songs at a show compared to Metallica.
    Both awesome live but do agree that PJ mix it up more-Metallica has released nine albums in 29 years, Pearl jam has released nine albums in 19 years... more critically acclaimed music in less time.
    Tough call given Metallica's first 4 albums were far from commercial albums, where as Ten was straight out rock album. Metallica still have biggest selling album of 2 bands (Black)-Pearl Jam tours almost every year. Metallica always takes a couple years off after a tour.
    Metallica tour a lot of places PJ dont. I would say Metallica are bigger in more countries than PJ.-Pearl Jam have never self imploded and lost any core members. Metallica, present day have only Lars and James left as original members.
    I would argue that James & Lars are the core members-Pearl Jam make the music they want to make, Metallica makes music they think people want to hear.
    People wanted to hear St Anger???-For a mere 10 bucks, you can download almost any show pearl jam has played and through some private fan sites any show before '08 are free (gremmie.net).
    You can also download Metallica shows a day or 2 after the show-Last but most importantly, Pearl Jam aren't self absorbed assholes.
    I've met Metallica and they are very cool & down to earth. Yes Lars is eccentric but it is him who pushes the meet & greets before every show cause he actually does care about the fans.
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    HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
    Hilarious...you mind if I use this one?


    Feel Free.

    Although in all honesty I agree with the others on here that to each his own. Metallica was and at times still is a great band who paved the way for tons of others to follow. I've met everyone in the band except for Lars and they were all very down to earth, nice guys. Their 1st 5 albums are incredible and it's too bad that they let Bob Rock come in and ruin everything. There is no such thing as "better" or "worse" when it comes to music, it's all personal preference.
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    DunDerDDunDerD Posts: 9
    #1 of all


    They don't sue their fans!!!!!!!!!!
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    hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,930
    Neuge wrote:
    Ive had this argument with my metal head friends on many occasions.

    -Pearl Jam are better to their fans, giving fan club dibs on best seats at shows.
    False. Not only does Metallica reserve all the best seats, you can pick your seats via-a ticketmaster presale. They also allow members in the building first

    -Pearl Jam condones a majority of online music trading unlike Metallica who did all they could to take down Napster.
    The Napster thing was 12 years ago and was a result of them being technologically naive and a bit cocky. A song they were working on (I Disappear) was uploaded to Napster which is what set them off. They absolutely went about it the wrong way but keep in mind, the band actually had a tapers section at all of their shows for years and long before PJ. They encouraged people to bootleg and trade their shows. Now, they stream the most recent concert for free in their app and they have free shows available from their vault.

    -Pearl jam are more diverse, they can write as many good ballads as heavy rock songs.
    Eh...not necessarily. See Mama Said, Hero of the Day, Fade to Black, Unforgiven. I would say Pearl Jam is more willing to do this but not better at it

    -Pearl Jam are MUCH better live... Metallica live sounds like you popped in a CD with the same guitar solo's, harmonies, etc. However, Pearl Jam live, every track sounds different every show, never had the same set-list twice, and they play MANY more songs at a show compared to Metallica.
    I respectfully disagree 100%

    -Metallica has released nine albums in 29 years, Pearl jam has released nine albums in 19 years... more critically acclaimed music in less time.
    LOL. What?

    -Pearl Jam tours almost every year. Metallica always takes a couple years off after a tour.
    True but Pearl Jam plays so few shows when they tour. Metallica goes all over the world

    -Pearl Jam have never self imploded and lost any core members. Metallica, present day have only Lars and James left as original members.
    Dave Krussen, Dave A., Jack Irons?

    -Pearl Jam make the music they want to make, Metallica makes music they think people want to hear.
    Complete rubbish

    -For a mere 10 bucks, you can download almost any show pearl jam has played and through some private fan sites any show before '08 are free (gremmie.net).
    Same for Metallica

    -Last but most importantly, Pearl Jam aren't self absorbed assholes.
    I think this is the only comment that pissed me off. Do me a favor....go to http://www.metontour.com and watch some videos. Watch them interact at every show with fans backstage and watch them take setlist requests. Enjoy a 10-15 minute video from every single show they play, for free for the fans. Then sign up for the Metclub and see how well they treat you compared to other fan clubs. Also notice that ticket prices have been the same since 2004. I have no doubt they were once self-absorbed assholes but they are far from it anymore.
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    Mr RockoMr Rocko Posts: 647
    Matt Cameron > Lars Umlat
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