Project #4 - a Live Vitalogy era Compilation

tremors · November 2010

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm liking the version of Tremor Christ that NorthShoreBlues suggested: Melbourne 3.17.95

Me too, and the warning at the end is cool .
And Corduroy, off this same show. Yet, after hearing 9 or so different versions in a row, I might get a bit confused

Yeah, be careful - you can start to overdose doing these projects, and it's hard to separate the wood from the trees! I'm liking the beginning with Self Pollution STBC into Moore Jack Irons chant and Last Exit. I'm also digging the improvs and covers Cameron4President mentioned, and the Melbourne Tremor Christ.

Have you picked up a kicking 'Not For You' on your travels? What would you recommend?

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm liking the version of Tremor Christ that NorthShoreBlues suggested: Melbourne 3.17.95

Me too, and the warning at the end is cool .
+ Corduroy, off this same show. Yet, after hearing 9 or so different versions in a row, I might get a bit confused
+ Whipping, off Atlanta 04.03.1994.

Hey Myra,

Since you are down here in the trenches with Tremors and I listening to 9 + different versions of Corduroy, we are adding you to the group.

Hey Tremors,

What do you think about making this a trio?? I think that Myra has what it takes.

Thanks to both of you for all of the 'hard work" today. I have had a very busy day at work today and it has been hard to post replies to everyone, but I should have a little bit of time during the next hour and a half to look through all of these posts and update or tracklist.

myra · November 2010

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm liking the version of Tremor Christ that NorthShoreBlues suggested: Melbourne 3.17.95

Me too, and the warning at the end is cool .
And Corduroy, off this same show. Yet, after hearing 9 or so different versions in a row, I might get a bit confused

Yeah, be careful - you can start to overdose doing these projects, and it's hard to separate the wood from the trees! I'm liking the beginning with Self Pollution STBC into Moore Jack Irons chant and Last Exit. I'm also digging the improvs and covers Cameron4President mentioned, and the Melbourne Tremor Christ.

Have you picked up a kicking 'Not For You' on your travels? What would you recommend?

Not yet. Started off with my fav. ones

I'm on my way for Not for you. It takes a while, because I'm listing them and ranking them, all the while adding a few notes to remember them by.
Hopefully I'll have one before sleeping.

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

This is where we are at so far:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Moore Theater (2/5/95)
03 Last Exit
04 Not for You
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Nothingman
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed
11 Words Seem Out of Place (Improv) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
12 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
13 Immortality
14 Long Road
15 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
16 I Got Shit
17 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Leaving Here
19 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

I need to listen to a few versions of "Not For You" before I could make a decision, but the SNL '94 version is real good.

myra · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

Hey Myra,

Since you are down here in the trenches with Tremors and I listening to 9 + different versions of Corduroy, we are adding you to the group.

Cool

I'll have another cup of coffee then ...

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm liking the version of Tremor Christ that NorthShoreBlues suggested: Melbourne 3.17.95

Me too, and the warning at the end is cool .
And Corduroy, off this same show. Yet, after hearing 9 or so different versions in a row, I might get a bit confused

Yeah, be careful - you can start to overdose doing these projects, and it's hard to separate the wood from the trees! I'm liking the beginning with Self Pollution STBC into Moore Jack Irons chant and Last Exit. I'm also digging the improvs and covers Cameron4President mentioned, and the Melbourne Tremor Christ.

Have you picked up a kicking 'Not For You' on your travels? What would you recommend?

I don't know if I am sold on the sound quality of "Last Exit" from the Moore. I was planning on just ripping the chant off of the beginning and using a differnt version of "Last Exit". Maybe DC or SLC? I don't know, but I will compare them when I get home tonight.

tremors · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

I'm liking the version of Tremor Christ that NorthShoreBlues suggested: Melbourne 3.17.95

Me too, and the warning at the end is cool .
+ Corduroy, off this same show. Yet, after hearing 9 or so different versions in a row, I might get a bit confused
+ Whipping, off Atlanta 04.03.1994.

Hey Myra,

Since you are down here in the trenches with Tremors and I listening to 9 + different versions of Corduroy, we are adding you to the group.

Hey Tremors,

What do you think about making this a trio?? I think that Myra has what it takes.

Thanks to both of you for all of the 'hard work" today. I have had a very busy day at work today and it has been hard to post replies to everyone, but I should have a little bit of time during the next hour and a half to look through all of these posts and update or tracklist.

The more the merrier! This is a bit of a 'poisoned chalice' though isn't it?

I think she definitely has what it takes (I'm assuming Myra is female from the name, but it's impossible to tell around here!). Taking notes, staying up late.... definite signs of the commitment necessary!

Cam4Pres, if we can come up with a kicking Last Exit that would be great - I thought it worked pretty well going straight into the actual version after the chant though.

You had me chuckling earlier actually, hearing the 'Jack Irons, Jack Irons' chant come back in. Am I listening to the right speech? It was funny, anyway, like a comic theme.

All progressing well! Don't stay up all night tho folks!

edit: no! I downloaded the wrong speech!! The BS speech, I see what you mean, that is good! It was funny having a second Jack Irons anyway!!

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

tremors wrote:

edit: no! I downloaded the wrong speech!! The BS speech, I see what you mean, that is good! It was funny having a second Jack Irons anyway!!

Check out the NW speech on 3/17/95, just as funny.

How many hours is France ahead of the United States East Coast? Is it 5 or 6 hours?

myra · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

How many hours is France ahead of the United States East Coast? Is it 5 or 6 hours?

One hour ahead of the UK.

Ok, so there indeed isn't any 1995 version of NothingMan.
There's a good 1994-02-20 Ann Arbor, Mi version.
Both the 1996-10-19 & 20 Shoreline ... are better in sound quality (they're almost identical, I have a slight preference for the 1996-10-20 though). Do we make an exception there and include a '96 performance ?

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

How many hours is France ahead of the United States East Coast? Is it 5 or 6 hours?

One hour ahead of the UK.

Ok, so there indeed isn't any 1995 version of NothingMan.
There's a good 1994-02-20 Ann Arbor, Mi version.
Both the 1996-10-19 & 20 Shoreline ... are better in sound quality (they're almost identical, I have a slight preference for the 1996-10-20 though). Do we make an exception there and include a '96 performance ?

Wow, I had no idea that Nothingman was not played in '95 at all. I might draw a few gasps when I say this, but I am not a big fan of "Nothingman" and it wouldn't upset me at all to exclude it. :twisted: I think that '96 is No Code territory and I suspect that the '94 copy is not up to par with our sound standards. What do you guys think?

myra · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

Wow, I had no idea that Nothingman was not played in '95 at all. I might draw a few gasps when I say this, but I am not a big fan of "Nothingman" and it wouldn't upset me at all to exclude it. :twisted: I think that '96 is No Code territory and I suspect that the '94 copy is not up to par with our sound standards. What do you guys think?

Tried to listen to it after Tremor Christ and I must admit there IS a loss in sound quality that's a bit unpleasant, whereas Tremor Christ followed by Whipping is ok. Nothingman shouldn't have been between those two in the first place anyway ...

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Wow, I had no idea that Nothingman was not played in '95 at all. I might draw a few gasps when I say this, but I am not a big fan of "Nothingman" and it wouldn't upset me at all to exclude it. :twisted: I think that '96 is No Code territory and I suspect that the '94 copy is not up to par with our sound standards. What do you guys think?

Tried to listen to it after Tremor Christ and I must admit there IS a loss in sound quality that's a bit unpleasant, whereas Tremor Christ followed by Whipping is ok. Nothingman shouldn't have been between those two in the first place anyway ...

I have always thought that too. That song to me doesn't fit into the turmoil that surrounded the band in '94 -'95. My question to you is do you think that that song belongs on that album? If not, what album does it belong on if any?

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

If we end up scrapping "Nothingman", what should we put in its place? Anything? We are going to be close on time as it stands right now with the track.

myra · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

I have always thought that too. That song to me doesn't fit into the turmoil that surrounded the band in '94 -'95. My question to you is do you think that that song belongs on that album? If not, what album does it belong on if any?

Well, it belongs on it as much as Betterman does. So I guess it does. Doesn't belong on any other really.

Cameron4President wrote:

If we end up scrapping "Nothingman", what should we put in its place? Anything? We are going to be close on time as it stands right now with the track.

I'm not sure we should put anything in its place. Yet maybe find something to fit between Whipping and Corduroy ? Or else, wasn't there a cover or something that was left out we could include now ?

Pearl James · November 2010

Sorry, I dont know if you are looking for recommendations for shows to use for the CD, but Id definitely recommend:

Last Exit, Red Rocks '95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlr1tEq99Sw

Corduroy, Self Pollution Radio (Cant find video for it, but its just as good as the album)
or
Corduroy, Melbourne '95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E1t06Ee47k

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

Pearl James wrote:

Sorry, I dont know if you are looking for recommendations for shows to use for the CD, but Id definitely recommend:

Last Exit, Red Rocks '95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlr1tEq99Sw

Corduroy, Self Pollution Radio (Cant find video for it, but its just as good as the album)
or
Corduroy, Melbourne '95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E1t06Ee47k

Always looking for ideas and suggestions. Thank you for you help. Red Rocks is an amazing show, I would love to see them play there. Thanks..

TheRealDanPatch · November 2010

I am a little slow here, but I thought everybody was talking about the Jack Irons Chant and the improv after RVM (which doesn't exist) from February 5th. I just realized that everybody has been talking about February 6th. We have got to try and make that improv work and use that Jack Iron Chant (Much Better Than the 5th). Here is another updated track list:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Words Seem Out of Place (Improv) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
12 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
13 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
14 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
15 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
16 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
17 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
19 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

myra · November 2010

Cameron4President wrote:

I am a little slow here, but I thought everybody was talking about the Jack Irons Chant and the improv after RVM (which doesn't exist) from February 5th. I just realized that everybody has been talking about February 6th. We have got to try and make that improv work and use that Jack Iron Chant (Much Better Than the 5th). Here is another updated track list:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Words Seem Out of Place (Improv) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
12 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
13 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
14 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
15 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
16 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
17 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
19 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

The 3rd improv (that's the one we're talking about, right ?) off 1995-02-06 definitely needs to be on it. Yet I'm not so sure whether it should be @ #6. Could we use improv #2 instead and use #3 after Immortality ? It's got sort of the same vibe to it, but in a 'lesser' way ... #2 builds anticipation and works well with the Jack Irons Chant just a couple tracks before, whereas after hearing #3 you're like, hmm, glad to move on to Long Road

tremors · November 2010

I hope we ain't gonna leave nothingman off the disc!! One of my favourite PJ songs, and I've always thought it fitted with Vitalogy. Can distinctly remember hearing it for the first time the day the album came out. Wow! I'm sure we can find a good version!!

I have to try and get back into my 'work work today, after a week's holiday - so will try and load up the latest tracklist this evening, and discuss further then. I imagine there's gonna be a lot of activity on this board later on - so let's see how we get on! Great efforts!!

Project #4 - a Live Vitalogy era Compilation

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