I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
Ha Ha you have to pay PSA's for the rights to even buy tickets to pro football games. Giants seasons tickets cost 10k just for the rights to buy the tickets. Wouldn't compare.
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
Ha Ha you have to pay PSA's for the rights to even buy tickets to pro football games. Giants seasons tickets cost 10k just for the rights to buy the tickets. Wouldn't compare.
I'm not comparing prices of football tickets to the price of PJ tickets. I'm just trying to figure out if other products have seen a 30+% increase in their cost (for the EXACT same product) in just two years. I'm truly curious to know if tickets for the Patriots (like PJ, basically the best at what they do) have increased that much since 2016.
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Everyone will have their answers once the on sale happens. you will see all the fees and what the actually FACE is on the tickets. Until then everyone should just be happy they are playing gigs and that we all have a chance to get the best seats in the house plus ALL GA BEFORE SCALPERS AND STUB HUB GETS THEIR HANDS ON THEM. They are putting the tickets in the hands of the fans as best they can.
Marquee 91 Wetlands 91 CBGB 91 Roseland 91 and many, many more
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Yes, I would have a problem with them taking advantage of their fans so that they could make more money playing less shows.
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
I wouldn't be bummed that they wanted to make more money so much as I would be bummed they were trying to play as few shows as possible after playing no shows in 2017.
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
and there is it. Fenway 2016 face was $85. so maybe face went up to $90 (if that at all) and throw an average of those fees from the venue onto it you get to $123 a piece for PJ.
Marquee 91 Wetlands 91 CBGB 91 Roseland 91 and many, many more
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Yes, I would have a problem with them taking advantage of their fans so that they could make more money playing less shows.
How are they taking advantage of you? They have been charging less than half the market value of these tickets for years. What is it you think this band owes you? In your line of work, how many customers do you have that you charge less than half the market value for your product/service?
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I'm hoping that the increase over the past 2 years has to do with how many 10C seats they were able to secure. I'm not entirely sure how it works, and I'm sure someone can/has spoke more eloquently about it. But maybe the PJ organization goes to the Red Sox or Ticketmaster and says, "we want 10K fanclub seats this time around (or however many more than 2016) and in turn, they say, "fine, but ticket prices are going to increase 30%).
Maybe it's a price that the band is willing to take (at both their and the fans' expense) to assure that more real fans (fanclub members and regular fans) are going to be in the building.
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
and there is it. Fenway 2016 face was $85. so maybe face went up to $90 (if that at all) and throw an average of those fees from the venue onto it you get to $123 a piece for PJ.
Interesting that the fee varies from artist to artist. Is that fee charged by the venue?
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Yes, I would have a problem with them taking advantage of their fans so that they could make more money playing less shows.
How are they taking advantage of you? They have been charging less than half the market value of these tickets for years. What is it you think this band owes you? In your line of work, how many customers do you have that you charge less than half the market value for your product/service?
In my line of work, if I increase what I charge for the EXACT same product by 30+% in just two years I won't have to worry about having any customers.
Today, I found out that tickets for the shows I'm interested in for 2018 are $122.50/ticket for Chicago... and $123.50 for Boston. Let's take a walk down memory lane......
"Pearl Jam wanted to charge no more than $18.50 for tickets in '94, with service fees of no more than $1.80. Ticketmaster balked, saying that it needed at least $2 in fees simply to cover its own costs." - courtesy Ultimateclassicrock.com
"Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster," Gossard asserted. - courtesy Ultimateclassicrock.com
This guy started a thread about 1994 prices?! Those were the days, when you could own and manage casinos in Atlantic City and go bankrupt to get taxpayers and share holders to cover debt you created.
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Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
I almost fell out of my chair last week when I saw the prices for Journey & Def Leppard. Maybe if Steve Perry were reuniting with Journey I could see those prices working, but no chance with Arnel Pineda. The per ticket service fees this year at Fenway make Ticketmaster seem like reasonable folks and that's hard to do.
I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative.
How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016. Have they increased by 30+% since then??
This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.
I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost. The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018. The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years. Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years.
I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price. I totally get that. I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that? I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Yes, I would have a problem with them taking advantage of their fans so that they could make more money playing less shows.
How are they taking advantage of you? They have been charging less than half the market value of these tickets for years. What is it you think this band owes you? In your line of work, how many customers do you have that you charge less than half the market value for your product/service?
In my line of work, if I increase what I charge for the EXACT same product by 30+% in just two years I won't have to worry about having any customers.
Even if you were already offering that product at less than half the actual market value and less than half of your other competitors? A quick check of Ticketmaster brought me to Pitbull in Niagara Falls....top ticket is $293.80ca BEFORE any fees. PITBULL. This band has left hundreds of millions of dollars on the table over the last 25 years and continues to do so. Even if they spike prices by 75% over last tour they'd still be well below the market. I'll ask my original question, what is it you think this band owes you?
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I am shocked at these ticket prices. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it but what happened to being reasonable enough every fan could attend? I'm disappointed in this. I know, I know, if I don't like it I can not go so you others have a better chance. But PJ taught me to stand for something or fall for anything and I can not keep my mouth shut about this. And don't give me this "well, it's for charity". These band members don't need to jack prices up to be able to afford to donate. And if fans are that fortunate they can donate on their own, not through inflated ticket prices. I used to brag about how PJ treats their fans...
What should they charge? Should they not pay their crew? I'm not trying to belittle you or anyone, this is not a cheap option but you also have to look at within context and what our society now charges for comparable entertainment acts. These prices are in-line or cheaper than good seats at a Red Sox or Cubs game, in-line or cheaper than good seats at a Broadway show or theater experience, or NFL game, or even other concerts being held in Fenway and Wrigley this year. But also remember that PJ is only playing seven US shows next year, so they're not designing this for their fans to attend all 7 shows. This is set up so fans can get to one of the shows. If you're lucky enough to be able to afford it, maybe two or three shows. Lastly, our prices are most likely cheaper than what the public sale tickets will go for with worse seating locations, certainly less than comparable seats on secondary markets as well. Everything is relative. If anything, be upset at the entertainment industry as a whole - this is not PJ's doing and I think they're trying to do their best while comfortably pulling off these shows and compensating their crew (which is large).
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With increase in ticket prices, plus travel and lodging...I can't do it. Throw in some more show dates closer to home then we'll see if the price is too high.
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
and there is it. Fenway 2016 face was $85. so maybe face went up to $90 (if that at all) and throw an average of those fees from the venue onto it you get to $123 a piece for PJ.
We don't pay fees when going through 10C though, that was the beauty of that, which is now gone.
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
and there is it. Fenway 2016 face was $85. so maybe face went up to $90 (if that at all) and throw an average of those fees from the venue onto it you get to $123 a piece for PJ.
We don't pay fees when going through 10C though, that was the beauty of that, which is now gone.
we did paid a lesser fee at fenway in 2016. face was $85. charge was $188 so there is $18 in whatever ya wanna call it.
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If a $30 increase is really going to bust the budget and stop someone from going those people should probably think twice about going anywhere and focus on getting their shit together.
$40+ in "fees" is what kills me. Is that what ticketmaster is claiming is the cost of selling the tickets? I used to be able to avoid all fees by buying straight from the box office. I remember going to shows in College, walk to the San Diego sports arena from my apartment and pay $25 for a show, no fees.
Blaming Ticketmaster is missing the point. Visit this page and look at the prices other artists are charging at Fenway. These tickets aren't through TM and the fees are through the roof. All prices below are for ONE TICKET, not a pair.
Def Leppard/Journey $185.50 face value $37.50 fee $4.85 fee $227.85
Billy Joel $159.50 face value $42.50 fee $4.85 fee $206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating) $79 face value $23 fee $4.85 fee $106.85
and there is it. Fenway 2016 face was $85. so maybe face went up to $90 (if that at all) and throw an average of those fees from the venue onto it you get to $123 a piece for PJ.
We don't pay fees when going through 10C though, that was the beauty of that, which is now gone.
Fees through 10c aren't new. They are just included in the total price we see. In 2013 tickets were $176 per pair. That's $88 per ticket, but face value on those tickets was $79. The other $9 per ticket was fees.
If a $30 increase is really going to bust the budget and stop someone from going those people should probably think twice about going anywhere and focus on getting their shit together.
This is the laziest of takes. People have every right to question a 30% increase.
If the answer is the band wants to make more money playing less shows, would you have a problem with that?
I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
Yes, I would have a problem with them taking advantage of their fans so that they could make more money playing less shows.
How is that "taking advantage of their fans"? It's likely that with less shows, the production costs are higher (less shared costs), that's my thinking. But honestly, they could charge whatever they want and I'd still pay it. Supply and Demand - there will always be high demand and as the supply varies the prices will too.
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If a $30 increase is really going to bust the budget and stop someone from going those people should probably think twice about going anywhere and focus on getting their shit together.
This is the laziest of takes. People have every right to question a 30% increase.
Just as the band has every right to charge whatever they want.
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If a $30 increase is really going to bust the budget and stop someone from going those people should probably think twice about going anywhere and focus on getting their shit together.
This is the laziest of takes. People have every right to question a 30% increase.
Just as the band has every right to charge whatever they want.
Yes, and people have every right to vote with their wallets. Awesome. Really breaking some new ground here.
If a $30 increase is really going to bust the budget and stop someone from going those people should probably think twice about going anywhere and focus on getting their shit together.
This is the laziest of takes. People have every right to question a 30% increase.
Hey man I have to convert that price to Canadian so what am I supposed to say. But the fact is if I want something bad enough I work for it. Price went up? I work harder to pay for it. I don’t complain.
I could think of many other things that I spend $250 on that don't bring me as much joy as PJ does. Shit, I could spend that on a night out with dinner and drinks.
Lot of projecting going on about how other people might spend their money. That's not fair. And it's not what this is about.
seattle shows are a charity event which shuts down the secondary market on stub hub. bravo PJ bravo 8 pages later and i hope someone here has mentioned the fact that this great band STILL do not tier the prices for tickets. yes they have in the past maybe for some outdoor amphitheaters(lawn tickets) but all arena shows in north america generally have 1 price. 10c gets a lot of the great seats and there is no doubt about that, right? how many GA tickets go on sale to the public? NONE. how many GA tickets will go to the secondary market and get sold above face? almost none. if PJ tiered their tickets prices the 10c lottery ticket winners would be paying a lot more for the GA's BUT because they don't tier prices it means the upfront seats(GA&reserved) are actually worth more than face value as the person in the last row in the upper level is paying the same price as a GA ticket i have zero complaints. NONE.
No one is disputing any of these things. And I'd challenge any interested parties to try find a comment of mine on this or any other board where I have EVER been critical of the band, the 10C, their live shows, the lottery, the ticketing policies, their haircuts... ANYTHING!
I'm a happy, grateful fan and I'm not blaming anyone in particular. But this is still a big jump from 2016 prices. And it directly translates to less live PJ experiences for me. Simple as that.
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I'm not comparing prices of football tickets to the price of PJ tickets. I'm just trying to figure out if other products have seen a 30+% increase in their cost (for the EXACT same product) in just two years. I'm truly curious to know if tickets for the Patriots (like PJ, basically the best at what they do) have increased that much since 2016.
I'd be bummed if that is why, but I'd do the same thing
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CBGB 91
Roseland 91
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https://www.mlb.com/redsox/tickets/concerts
Def Leppard/Journey
$185.50 face value
$37.50 fee
$4.85 fee
$227.85
Billy Joel
$159.50 face value
$42.50 fee
$4.85 fee
$206.85
Foo Fighters (Turf seats are gone, these prices are for bowl seating)
$79 face value
$23 fee
$4.85 fee
$106.85
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II
Maybe it's a price that the band is willing to take (at both their and the fans' expense) to assure that more real fans (fanclub members and regular fans) are going to be in the building.
In my line of work, if I increase what I charge for the EXACT same product by 30+% in just two years I won't have to worry about having any customers.
Lollapalooza 07'
Bonnaroo 08'
Columbus 10'
Noblesville 10'
Alpine Valley 11'
Alpine Valley 11'
Music Midtown 12'
Wrigley Field 13'
Cincinnati 14'
Lexington 16'
I almost fell out of my chair last week when I saw the prices for Journey & Def Leppard. Maybe if Steve Perry were reuniting with Journey I could see those prices working, but no chance with Arnel Pineda.
The per ticket service fees this year at Fenway make Ticketmaster seem like reasonable folks and that's hard to do.
Even if you were already offering that product at less than half the actual market value and less than half of your other competitors? A quick check of Ticketmaster brought me to Pitbull in Niagara Falls....top ticket is $293.80ca BEFORE any fees. PITBULL. This band has left hundreds of millions of dollars on the table over the last 25 years and continues to do so. Even if they spike prices by 75% over last tour they'd still be well below the market. I'll ask my original question, what is it you think this band owes you?
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II
I'm not trying to belittle you or anyone, this is not a cheap option but you also have to look at within context and what our society now charges for comparable entertainment acts. These prices are in-line or cheaper than good seats at a Red Sox or Cubs game, in-line or cheaper than good seats at a Broadway show or theater experience, or NFL game, or even other concerts being held in Fenway and Wrigley this year.
But also remember that PJ is only playing seven US shows next year, so they're not designing this for their fans to attend all 7 shows. This is set up so fans can get to one of the shows. If you're lucky enough to be able to afford it, maybe two or three shows. Lastly, our prices are most likely cheaper than what the public sale tickets will go for with worse seating locations, certainly less than comparable seats on secondary markets as well. Everything is relative. If anything, be upset at the entertainment industry as a whole - this is not PJ's doing and I think they're trying to do their best while comfortably pulling off these shows and compensating their crew (which is large).
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
I used to be able to avoid all fees by buying straight from the box office. I remember going to shows in College, walk to the San Diego sports arena from my apartment and pay $25 for a show, no fees.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Or this...
Lot of projecting going on about how other people might spend their money. That's not fair. And it's not what this is about.
No one is disputing any of these things. And I'd challenge any interested parties to try find a comment of mine on this or any other board where I have EVER been critical of the band, the 10C, their live shows, the lottery, the ticketing policies, their haircuts... ANYTHING!
I'm a happy, grateful fan and I'm not blaming anyone in particular. But this is still a big jump from 2016 prices. And it directly translates to less live PJ experiences for me. Simple as that.