Ticket prices

JimmyV

I wonder if in the future 10c will consider releasing the breakdown of face plus fees when they announce ticket prices. So instead of just saying $247 per pair we'd see something like:

$99 face value
$24.50 fee per ticket

$123.50 total per ticket
$247 per pair

I can't speak for anyone else but that would have alleviated much of my initial sticker shock yesterday. Particularly because I've seen how high some of the fees Fenway is charging this summer are. And I much rather blame Red Sox owner John Henry than Pearl Jam or 10c.

Jvfireman416

wnh1977 said:

Get_Right said:

It cost me $600 for two tix to Paul McCartney. Even more for two tickets to see Kevin Durant play basketball for two hours. A lame version of the lion king is $199 per ticket. Get real people.

Hmmm.  Don't recall Paul McCartney saying, "Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster."  That was Stone Gossard.  Don't recall Kevin Durant saying he wouldn't play basketball if kids and young fans were priced out of going... or maybe you forget Ed saying they just wouldn't tour and would stick to putting out albums if tickets weren't kept affordable (back in the days they wanted total cost under $25).  When you get on your high horse and self-righteously claim that you'll always look out for the little guy because you, at one time, were the little guy, these dramatic price increases make you look a little silly.  

Nobody is saying prices shouldn't go up as the years go on.  And most agree that these are, at the very least, fair prices when compared to other large acts.  But the huge jumps over the past few years is what is alarming people.  And as somebody pointed out, throw in your $20 - $40 membership fee as part of the cost of doing business with PJ tours these days too.  It's their claim that they were different that starts to ring hollow.  I just wonder if they cringe with their sanctimonious statements from the 90's about being all about the little guy/average fans.  They weren't bashful about staking their claim to the moral high ground.  The videos and statements still exist.  I'm sure they can provide plenty of reasons for the change of tune... but they don't have to.  The fans that accept zero criticism of this band does it for them.

You can choose not to pay the prices and skip the tour.  There is a lot of cost  when putting on a show and artists make nothing from album sales anymore.  It used to be that concerts supported album sales.  That isn't the case any more.  Back in 1993 there was no Amazon Prime, Spotify, or any other site where I got free music. Napster didn't even come into effect until 1999.  Stop your belly aching and pay for the tickets.  Or don't.  That is the best way to protest if you really feel that way.  If enough of you "protest", not only will I get GA, I will get the rail.

Jvfireman416

One other thought.... How much pleasure have you gotten from this band over the years.. I would assume plenty since you shell out the 40 bucks a year for song and an extra t shirt.  Suddenly $250.00 is obscene for what they have given to you over the years... Hmmmmm.  I could see that for the casual fan who things the band is just Jeremy and Better Man, but not for someone who is passionate about the band, the music, and the concert experience.

Shit.... I'm not a rich guy but I've dropped $250.00 on drinks at a bar more times than I can count and on a hand of black jack a time or too as well.

jpdannabelle

Jvfireman416 said:

You can choose not to pay the prices and skip the tour.  There is a lot of cost  when putting on a show and artists make nothing from album sales anymore.  It used to be that concerts supported album sales.  That isn't the case any more.  Back in 1993 there was no Amazon Prime, Spotify, or any other site where I got free music. Napster didn't even come into effect until 1999.  Stop your belly aching and pay for the tickets.  Or don't.  That is the best way to protest if you really feel that way.  If enough of you "protest", not only will I get GA, I will get the rail.

Exactly, Please do not buy the tickets. Protest the prices!! I urge all the ones who are upset to stand up for what you believe!! It’s your human right!! Back out of the draw before it’s too late!! Start a revolution!!! 

........and let me score my GA Wrigley. 

AmishGuy91

Hard to complain about $125 tickets when we all buy $200 worth of merch at each show.

CantKeepmedown

I could think of many other things that I spend $250 on that don't bring me as much joy as PJ does.  Shit, I could spend that on a night out with dinner and drinks.  

JimmyV

AmishGuy91 said:

Hard to complain about $125 tickets when we all buy $200 worth of merch at each show.

We don't all do that.

mace1229

Of course I'm bummed of what seems like a large jump in prices. Of course I hoped this band would always be half the cost compared to other bands. Yes, it seems ironic if they were to play "Soon Forget" with what they charge now. They don't "need" these high prices just because other bands do it, it isn't all just the industry. They could charge what they did 2 years ago and still make a killing.
All that being said, who here wouldn't make the most out of their time? They obviously are not into playing 30 or 40 shows in a summer anymore at their age. I mean, if I could make that kind of money in 2 weeks instead of a drawn out tour for months, I would. Wouldn't you?
So I can be disappointed at the prices, but I can't say I wouldn't be doing the same.
If I had a chance to make in 2 weeks what I would in the next 20 years of my career I totally would.

P34RL J4MM3R

The Haves have not a Fu(k!n' clue.

Indifference

"Ten Club has made arrangements to get more tickets than ever before exclusively for our members. We are confident we’ll be able to accommodate most, if not all, drawing entries"

I wonder if they had to kick back extra to venues/promoters/TM in order to get this done which caused a "portion" of the increase.

More tickets available for higher cost is fine with me.

RYME

tbergs said:

RYME said:

Trump's tax cuts are working, People are getting raises everywhere nowadays.  PJ gets a raise too.

I hope this is tongue in cheek....

Absolutely

Gibson

CantKeepmedown said:

I could think of many other things that I spend $250 on that don't bring me as much joy as PJ does.  Shit, I could spend that on a night out with dinner and drinks.  

That's the one. 

I'm not mad at the prices..I'm broke because of my own vices. What I am rationalizing is that there's a ticket fee that is going back to Wrigley for allocating so many seats to 10C. I'll pay the extra few $$ for a guaranteed pull.

JP218404

JimmyV said:

I wonder if in the future 10c will consider releasing the breakdown of face plus fees when they announce ticket prices. So instead of just saying $247 per pair we'd see something like:

$99 face value
$24.50 fee per ticket

$123.50 total per ticket
$247 per pair

I can't speak for anyone else but that would have alleviated much of my initial sticker shock yesterday. Particularly because I've seen how high some of the fees Fenway is charging this summer are. And I much rather blame Red Sox owner John Henry than Pearl Jam or 10c.

As I told someone else. Seattle , per Ticketmaster , face is 99-112 BEFORE Fees

i would guess all the other shows are somewhere in that zone 

RoleModelsinBlood31

Definitely makes it a bit harder on the wallet when I just shelled out $1500 on bootleg sets from past years.  Whoops.

Clapper

I love this band and I have met some really cool fans over the years but a lot of folks are out of touch. Literally every top touring act charges $150ish at the low end to $300ish at the top end per ticket for shows. Those prices are for a total stock, 90 minute set.   PJ plays a MINIMUM of 2 and a half hours and are YEARS behind what the rest of the industry is charging.  At $250 bucks per ticket they would still sell out and they are taking less than half that.  They have left hundreds of millions of dollars on the table for the sake of their fans over the the last 25 years.

Its not 1994 anymore.  EVERYTHING is more expensive and most things have increased at a much higher pace than inflation. All the costs associated with touring have spiked.  Travel, hotels, fuel, staff, venues - all way more money than they used to be. I'd be willing to be PJ pays their staff a better than average wage too.  

I understand that we all wish live music more affordable and it sucks when costs grow faster than what some of us earn but what are our expectations of this band?   Again, they have turned away HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars on our behalf.   How can we possibly still want more from them?

rey

dlymnfld said:

I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative. 

How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016.  Have they increased by 30+% since then??

JimmyV

rey said:

dlymnfld said:

I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative. 

How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016.  Have they increased by 30+% since then??

This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.

mcgruff10

JimmyV said:

rey said:

dlymnfld said:

I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative. 

How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016.  Have they increased by 30+% since then??

This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.

Correct.  The 1994 argument is not valid in my opinion; the pressing issue is why are tickets so much more expensive as compared to only two years ago?  Yes I have a good paying job and can afford it but you have to admit it is a really big jump.  

rey

JimmyV said:

rey said:

dlymnfld said:

I have had Patriot season tickets since 1992. 28 dollars then, 160 dollars now. Patriots sucked then and are great now. PJ in 92 played a short set and now a pretty long set. All relative. 

How much did the Patriots tickets cost in 2016.  Have they increased by 30+% since then??

This is a fair point. The bump from 2016 to 2018 is far more relevant than anything the band said or did or charged in 1992 or 1994.

I don't care what other artists charge for their tickets, how much PJ tickets cost in the '90s, or how much tickets to a sporting event cost.  The bottom line is that PJ played baseball stadiums in 2016 and are playing baseball stadiums again 2018.  The cost for the EXACT same product has increased by 30+ % in the course of just two years.  Think about other products you purchase and how you would feel about a 30% increase for the EXACT same product in just two years. 

I fully expected the 2018 tickets to cost more than the 2016 tickets because everything goes up in price.  I totally get that.  I just did not expect they would go up by that much and am having a hard time understanding why.

RoleModelsinBlood31

I wonder with the new ticket system if we’ll hear a lot of discussion about more empty seats at the shows.  I’m not as much talking about ticket prices as much as I’m talking about the smart phone system.... are people who get tickets going to have a harder time selling their extras?