I wonder if their true number of shows is even knowable anymore? I'm sure in the early days it might have been very catch as catch can. Who knows if a precise count even exists at this point?
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1) Live Footsteps has included the 2016 shows already giving us 1007 shows. Take the 23 unplayed shows away and we sit at 984 (includes tv appearances)
2) Setlists.fm lists only shows played to date and has them at 985 shows (includes tv appearances)
3) The single show discrepancy is in 1990. Setlist.fm has them playing a show at Parker's Tavern in Seattle on Dec 21 while live footsteps doesn't list this show as existing.
So...can anyone confirm the existence of the Parker's Tavern Show? If it exists then show 1000 will be Quebec City (which I'll be at!!!). If it doesn't exist show 1000 will be Ottawa (boooo!)
12/21/90 – New Melody Tavern: Seattle, WA (Mookie Blaylock) We’re unsure if Mookie Blaylock played at this “Seattle Musicians for the People” show or if it occurred. We have this poster and would like to hear from you if you have news about this show, which was a benefit for Toys for Tots, the food bank, etc. Many bands are listed to appear, including Alice in Chains, Luv Battery, Kristen Barry and Bathtub Gin. New info: Someone in the Seattle area who was at this show says that “just a couple of guys from the band” were there and that they “played a few songs acoustically.” It wasn’t well-attended. More new info: Someone else who drove to this show, despite a big snowfall, doesn’t think that either Mookie or AIC played due to the weather.
It appears that the Parker Tavern/New Melody Tavern show never took place. This means the Live Footsteps number is correct and show number 1000 will be in Ottawa.
Wait! Some serious discrepancies between Livefootsteps and Stat Tracker. One example is that Livefootsteps lists a show having taken place on October 15th 1991 in Washington DC BUT if you go to Two Feet Thick you'll find this:
"10/15/91 – Nightclub 9:30: Washington, DC support act: I Love You notes This show was originally scheduled as part of Pearl Jam’s headlining club tour with support act I Love You. It was later cancelled as the band left to join the RHCP tour in Madison, WI, following the previous night’s show at the Cat’s Cradle. A 1993 Goldmine article mentions that the 11/09/91 Tower Records show “compensat[ed] fans for the cancellation of a scheduled Pearl Jam show at the 9:30 club in Washington, D.C.” Fans who showed up on this night expecting to see the show found a handwrittern message on the front door announcing the cancellation."
The DC show never took place! Dammit! This is getting complicated!
Ok....This is my last time...I swear! (Don't know if anyone even cares). I just cross referenced all shows between Livefootsteps/StatTracker/Two Feet Thick to come to a definitive number.
What was included: Any show/appearance where the whole band played. This includes concerts, tv/radio performances, in-store performances, and Pollution Radio
What wasn't included:solo and/or partial band performances i.e. livefootsteps had included Eddie singing with the Doors which is clearly NOT a PJ show.
When you do all the math the total number of shows played is once again 984 OR 985 depending on one single unverified show.
On December 11th 1991 it is confirmed that PJ played at Trees in Dallas. What is unconfirmed is whether they played earlier in the day as an opening act for the Smashing Pumpkins at the Bronco Bowl. Whether they played that show will once again determine if Quebec City or Ottawa is show number 1000.
Edit - This link seems to confirm it was played therefore 985 are in the books and Quebec City is 1000
I'm sorry but counting TV apperances as "Pearl Jam shows" is ridiculous. Playing one or two songs in a tv studio is not a show imo.
These tv appearances are in front of studio audiences. The size of the crowd shouldn't determine whether it's a gig.
Either way...I don't really know if it is for me or anyone to not include these as shows. Eliminating them could make the hard count even harder to come up with.
I'm sorry but counting TV apperances as "Pearl Jam shows" is ridiculous. Playing one or two songs in a tv studio is not a show imo.
These tv appearances are in front of studio audiences. The size of the crowd shouldn't determine whether it's a gig.
Either way...I don't really know if it is for me or anyone to not include these as shows. Eliminating them could make the hard count even harder to come up with.
By that logic you could add every studio session they played with a couple of friends or family present as a show. Are the AOL sessions a show? Was the The Fixer videotaping at the showbox a show? For me a show is every headlining gig, every festival and every gig they opened for others a show. Honestly I would have never thought that anybody would think that a tv show taping constitutes as a Pearl Jam show.
2006:Arnhem,Bern,Berlin
2007:München,Düsseldorf,Nijmegen
2008:NY1,NY2,Mansfield1,Mansfield2
2009:London,Rotterdam,Berlin,Manchester,London
2010:NY1,NY2,Dublin,Belfast,Berlin
2011:PJ20,Montreal,TorontoI+II,Hamilton
2012:Amsterdam I+II, Prague, Berlin I+II, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen
2013: Phoenix, San Diego, LA I+II, Oakland
2014: Amsterdam I+II, Vienna, Berlin
2016: Philly I+II, MSG I+II
Ok....This is my last time...I swear! (Don't know if anyone even cares). I just cross referenced all shows between Livefootsteps/StatTracker/Two Feet Thick to come to a definitive number.
I'm sorry but counting TV apperances as "Pearl Jam shows" is ridiculous. Playing one or two songs in a tv studio is not a show imo.
These tv appearances are in front of studio audiences. The size of the crowd shouldn't determine whether it's a gig.
Either way...I don't really know if it is for me or anyone to not include these as shows. Eliminating them could make the hard count even harder to come up with.
By that logic you could add every studio session they played with a couple of friends or family present as a show. Are the AOL sessions a show? Was the The Fixer videotaping at the showbox a show? For me a show is every headlining gig, every festival and every gig they opened for others a show. Honestly I would have never thought that anybody would think that a tv show taping constitutes as a Pearl Jam show.
Austin City Limits? The Late Show gigs? Those are clearly shows.
Some people on here are clearly missing the point. Show 1000 is coming on this tour. Maybe it matters maybe it doesn't. If you don't want to include Letterman/SNL/Conan/Fallon etc then be my guest and come up with the hard number of shows they have played. From my math Quebec City is 1000
a letterman or SNL taping is not a show... when they played the Ed Sullivan theater in 2006 after a late show taping, that was a show... storytellers is a show... acl is a show... conan is not a show
a letterman or SNL taping is not a show... when they played the Ed Sullivan theater in 2006 after a late show taping, that was a show... storytellers is a show... acl is a show... conan is not a show
I think the people who got into those tapings would consider them to be shows. That being said if you don't like the use of the word "show" we can change it to "performance". Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance will be Quebec City.
The #'s on the artwork for the Vault series are the show # the band considers to be a show. The Vic is show # 632 and it's from Aug 2, 2007. How hard is it to figure out of they're counting tv tapings? And then count all the shows after that date?
Vic was not show 632. Those are just numbers on road cases. Facts are good for you. Making crap up to fit a theory is not. They haven't played 300 shows since 2007, either.
a letterman or SNL taping is not a show... when they played the Ed Sullivan theater in 2006 after a late show taping, that was a show... storytellers is a show... acl is a show... conan is not a show
I get what you're saying but I might've had more fun at Colbert than anything else
a letterman or SNL taping is not a show... when they played the Ed Sullivan theater in 2006 after a late show taping, that was a show... storytellers is a show... acl is a show... conan is not a show
I think the people who got into those tapings would consider them to be shows. That being said if you don't like the use of the word "show" we can change it to "performance". Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance will be Quebec City.
If PJ played a set of songs after a Letterman taping I would consider that a show. If they played a single song for a TV taping.... I don't feel that's show. I'll count small sets for charities and what not. But a single song for a tv taping? I think it has to be a set of some kind to be a show. Even if it's a short set. Single song TV taping though... nah
I think it's all moot anyways. The records of their time before they were famous probably aren't 100% reliable so you'd never really know which show was #1000.
a letterman or SNL taping is not a show... when they played the Ed Sullivan theater in 2006 after a late show taping, that was a show... storytellers is a show... acl is a show... conan is not a show
I think the people who got into those tapings would consider them to be shows. That being said if you don't like the use of the word "show" we can change it to "performance". Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance will be Quebec City.
If PJ played a set of songs after a Letterman taping I would consider that a show. If they played a single song for a TV taping.... I don't feel that's show. I'll count small sets for charities and what not. But a single song for a tv taping? I think it has to be a set of some kind to be a show. Even if it's a short set. Single song TV taping though... nah
I think it's all moot anyways. The records of their time before they were famous probably aren't 100% reliable so you'd never really know which show was #1000.
I wouldn't consider tv tapings as shows to count towards the total either. I would consider only full shows. but either way, I won't be at show 1000 unless it's in Winnipeg!
TV show appearances aren't Pearl Jam concerts, no matter how you try to twist it semantically. You wouldn't say you saw a Brad Pitt movie if you saw him on The Late Show.
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Setlist.fm has them at 985 shows
http://www.setlist.fm/search?query=artist:(Pearl+Jam)
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
1) Live Footsteps has included the 2016 shows already giving us 1007 shows. Take the 23 unplayed shows away and we sit at 984 (includes tv appearances)
2) Setlists.fm lists only shows played to date and has them at 985 shows (includes tv appearances)
3) The single show discrepancy is in 1990. Setlist.fm has them playing a show at Parker's Tavern in Seattle on Dec 21 while live footsteps doesn't list this show as existing.
So...can anyone confirm the existence of the Parker's Tavern Show? If it exists then show 1000 will be Quebec City (which I'll be at!!!). If it doesn't exist show 1000 will be Ottawa (boooo!)
12/21/90 – New Melody Tavern: Seattle, WA (Mookie Blaylock)
We’re unsure if Mookie Blaylock played at this “Seattle Musicians for the People” show or if it occurred. We have this poster and would like to hear from you if you have news about this show, which was a benefit for Toys for Tots, the food bank, etc. Many bands are listed to appear, including Alice in Chains, Luv Battery, Kristen Barry and Bathtub Gin.
New info: Someone in the Seattle area who was at this show says that “just a couple of guys from the band” were there and that they “played a few songs acoustically.” It wasn’t well-attended.
More new info: Someone else who drove to this show, despite a big snowfall, doesn’t think that either Mookie or AIC played due to the weather.
It appears that the Parker Tavern/New Melody Tavern show never took place. This means the Live Footsteps number is correct and show number 1000 will be in Ottawa.
"10/15/91 – Nightclub 9:30: Washington, DC
support act: I Love You
notes This show was originally scheduled as part of Pearl Jam’s headlining club tour with support act I Love You. It was later cancelled as the band left to join the RHCP tour in Madison, WI, following the previous night’s show at the Cat’s Cradle. A 1993 Goldmine article mentions that the 11/09/91 Tower Records show “compensat[ed] fans for the cancellation of a scheduled Pearl Jam show at the 9:30 club in Washington, D.C.” Fans who showed up on this night expecting to see the show found a handwrittern message on the front door announcing the cancellation."
The DC show never took place! Dammit! This is getting complicated!
What was included: Any show/appearance where the whole band played. This includes concerts, tv/radio performances, in-store performances, and Pollution Radio
What wasn't included:solo and/or partial band performances i.e. livefootsteps had included Eddie singing with the Doors which is clearly NOT a PJ show.
When you do all the math the total number of shows played is once again 984 OR 985 depending on one single unverified show.
On December 11th 1991 it is confirmed that PJ played at Trees in Dallas. What is unconfirmed is whether they played earlier in the day as an opening act for the Smashing Pumpkins at the Bronco Bowl. Whether they played that show will once again determine if Quebec City or Ottawa is show number 1000.
Edit - This link seems to confirm it was played therefore 985 are in the books and Quebec City is 1000
http://pearljam.com/setlists/1006/1991/22204/bronco_bowl
2007:München,Düsseldorf,Nijmegen
2008:NY1,NY2,Mansfield1,Mansfield2
2009:London,Rotterdam,Berlin,Manchester,London
2010:NY1,NY2,Dublin,Belfast,Berlin
2011:PJ20,Montreal,TorontoI+II,Hamilton
2012:Amsterdam I+II, Prague, Berlin I+II, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen
2013: Phoenix, San Diego, LA I+II, Oakland
2014: Amsterdam I+II, Vienna, Berlin
2016: Philly I+II, MSG I+II
Either way...I don't really know if it is for me or anyone to not include these as shows. Eliminating them could make the hard count even harder to come up with.
Honestly I would have never thought that anybody would think that a tv show taping constitutes as a Pearl Jam show.
2007:München,Düsseldorf,Nijmegen
2008:NY1,NY2,Mansfield1,Mansfield2
2009:London,Rotterdam,Berlin,Manchester,London
2010:NY1,NY2,Dublin,Belfast,Berlin
2011:PJ20,Montreal,TorontoI+II,Hamilton
2012:Amsterdam I+II, Prague, Berlin I+II, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen
2013: Phoenix, San Diego, LA I+II, Oakland
2014: Amsterdam I+II, Vienna, Berlin
2016: Philly I+II, MSG I+II
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Some people on here are clearly missing the point. Show 1000 is coming on this tour. Maybe it matters maybe it doesn't. If you don't want to include Letterman/SNL/Conan/Fallon etc then be my guest and come up with the hard number of shows they have played. From my math Quebec City is 1000
they barely noticed denver last year...
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16 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 & 2
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2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
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2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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I think it's all moot anyways. The records of their time before they were famous probably aren't 100% reliable so you'd never really know which show was #1000.
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