Obamacare ACA (Affordable Care Act)

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    This topic needs to be revitalized.

    So for the last 4 years starting in 2014 I have been on Obamacare/ACA.  My first year of coverage cost my company $501 a month.

    This coming year it will increase almost 30% to a whopping $904 a month.

    The first year 2015 went up 2% , 2016 2nd year 10%, 2017 3rd year 20%, 2018 3% and next year it will increase 29% to $904...

    That is an 80% increase from my first year enrolled.  

    What's affordable about this?

    I'm calling out both sides of the aisle on this.  No way one party is to blame for this kind of robbery.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)
    If you can explain why they aren't I'd love to hear it.

    They created something that is spiraling out of control with costs now so they are getting some blame too.

    Let's start simple and work our way up:

    Blue light is scattered in all directions by the tiny molecules of air in Earth's atmosphere. Blue is scattered more than other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves. This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.

    next lesson: why is water wet?
    Great answer!  Thanks for playing!!!
    in no particular order : 

    Hill–Burton Act
    signed by Truman (D)

    National Mental Health Act
    signed by Truman (D)

    Community Mental Health Act
    signed by Kennedy (D)

    Social Security Act of 1935
    signed by Roosevelt (D)

    Social Security Amendments of 1965 (creating Medicare & Medicaid)
    signed by Johnson (D)

    Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA)
    signed by Reagan (R) 
    gasp!

    Children's Health Insurance Program
    signed by Clinton (D)

    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
    signed by Obama (D)

    Ds have tried time and time again to make health care affordable and accessible to the American people.

    Time and time again R's have used these programs as wedge issues.  Decried them as socialism, and used every opportunity to neuter and/or obstruct these initiatives.

    Explain to me again how both sides are culpable here?

    So tired of this 'both sides are bad narrative'. It's demonstrably false.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

    Why I blame the Dems is adding subsidies that can easily be taken away.  They should have planned it better.  The GOP is just going to bankrupt the program now by taking everything away.

    Piss poor planning.
    maybe pictures will help



    GOP had 2 options : take a good program and make it better, or destroy it.  They elected to destroy it. 

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

    I know that.  It's partisanship at it's finest.  It doesn't mean I can't be pissed at the Dems for not making it bulletproof.

    I also would like to thank you for insulting me yet a second time.  You must be a riot at parties or you get punched a lot.
    You know who gets punched at parties?  The guy who gets drunk on free beer, then complains the host bought a keg Busch Light instead of Guinness.

    You know what's insulting?  Scapegoating Democrats for a problem Republicans created.

    They've been crowing about repeal and replace for how long now?  Push came to shove and the GOP couldn't repeal and didn't have a plan to replace.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    This topic needs to be revitalized.

    So for the last 4 years starting in 2014 I have been on Obamacare/ACA.  My first year of coverage cost my company $501 a month.

    This coming year it will increase almost 30% to a whopping $904 a month.

    The first year 2015 went up 2% , 2016 2nd year 10%, 2017 3rd year 20%, 2018 3% and next year it will increase 29% to $904...

    That is an 80% increase from my first year enrolled.  

    What's affordable about this?

    I'm calling out both sides of the aisle on this.  No way one party is to blame for this kind of robbery.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)
    If you can explain why they aren't I'd love to hear it.

    They created something that is spiraling out of control with costs now so they are getting some blame too.

    Let's start simple and work our way up:

    Blue light is scattered in all directions by the tiny molecules of air in Earth's atmosphere. Blue is scattered more than other colors because it travels as shorter, smaller waves. This is why we see a blue sky most of the time.

    next lesson: why is water wet?
    Great answer!  Thanks for playing!!!
    in no particular order : 

    Hill–Burton Act
    signed by Truman (D)

    National Mental Health Act
    signed by Truman (D)

    Community Mental Health Act
    signed by Kennedy (D)

    Social Security Act of 1935
    signed by Roosevelt (D)

    Social Security Amendments of 1965 (creating Medicare & Medicaid)
    signed by Johnson (D)

    Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA)
    signed by Reagan (R) 
    gasp!

    Children's Health Insurance Program
    signed by Clinton (D)

    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
    signed by Obama (D)

    Ds have tried time and time again to make health care affordable and accessible to the American people.

    Time and time again R's have used these programs as wedge issues.  Decried them as socialism, and used every opportunity to neuter and/or obstruct these initiatives.

    Explain to me again how both sides are culpable here?

    So tired of this 'both sides are bad narrative'. It's demonstrably false.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

    Why I blame the Dems is adding subsidies that can easily be taken away.  They should have planned it better.  The GOP is just going to bankrupt the program now by taking everything away.

    Piss poor planning.
    maybe pictures will help



    GOP had 2 options : take a good program and make it better, or destroy it.  They elected to destroy it. 

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

    I know that.  It's partisanship at it's finest.  It doesn't mean I can't be pissed at the Dems for not making it bulletproof.

    I also would like to thank you for insulting me yet a second time.  You must be a riot at parties or you get punched a lot.
    You know who gets punched at parties?  The guy who gets drunk on free beer, then complains the host bought a keg Busch Light instead of Guinness.

    You know what's insulting?  Scapegoating Democrats for a problem Republicans created.

    They've been crowing about repeal and replace for how long now?  Push came to shove and the GOP couldn't repeal and didn't have a plan to replace.

    You're wrong, one party is very specifically to blame for this.  (It's not the Democrats)

    Ever since it started, I know that.

    Again,  I can be mad and point a finger at the dems too.  Why write a 2300 pg law if you still are going to leave loopholes? 

    That is piss poor planning.

    It should have been like the constitution where you can build off of it rather than destroy it...

    Also I do agree that "one party is specifically to blame" but I've listed my reasons why I'm mad at the other side of the aisle.

    Lastly who the hell brings Busch Light (AKA Beast) to a keg party?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840


    Lastly who the hell brings Busch Light (AKA Beast) to a keg party?
    Conservatives, that's who.  Then they tear the label off, tell you it's Heineken, and roofie your date.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,655
    CM189191 said:


    Lastly who the hell brings Busch Light (AKA Beast) to a keg party?
    Conservatives, that's who.  Then they tear the label off, tell you it's Heineken, and roofie your date.
    drop the mic lol ..
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 2,763
    Ever since it started, I know that.

    Again,  I can be mad and point a finger at the dems too.  Why write a 2300 pg law if you still are going to leave loopholes? 

    That is piss poor planning.

    It should have been like the constitution where you can build off of it rather than destroy it...

    Also I do agree that "one party is specifically to blame" but I've listed my reasons why I'm mad at the other side of the aisle.

    Lastly who the hell brings Busch Light (AKA Beast) to a keg party?
    I thought Milwaukee Best was the Beast.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951
    eddiec said:
    Ever since it started, I know that.

    Again,  I can be mad and point a finger at the dems too.  Why write a 2300 pg law if you still are going to leave loopholes? 

    That is piss poor planning.

    It should have been like the constitution where you can build off of it rather than destroy it...

    Also I do agree that "one party is specifically to blame" but I've listed my reasons why I'm mad at the other side of the aisle.

    Lastly who the hell brings Busch Light (AKA Beast) to a keg party?
    I thought Milwaukee Best was the Beast.
    OMG you're right, lol.  It is. hahahaha!
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,929
    Why don’t they take a “good plan” and make it better?
    Because it sucks. 
    Yes, the R’s have failed to do anything better and that’s embarrassing, but let’s not pretend that Obamacare isn’t anything but a huge mess.
    I can think of only 2 groups who are better off with it; those who couldn’t get covered due to pre-existing condition (which would only apply to self or unemployed) and those who get subsidized care.
    And don’t forget its subsidized by overcharging every healthy 20 and 30 year olds (you know, that age group just out of college who are living in their mom’s basement in record numbers, struggling to pay student loans, those people) on top of forcing them to buy more coverage than they want or need.
    I don’t have data on the numbers, but I know more people who chose to pay the penalty and not carry insurance than those who benefit from it. Aside from a terminal illness, there’s no need for a healthy 25 year old to pay $700/month for insurance.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,929
    A lot of what’s wrong isn’t ACA, but the system that it forces us to join.
    At $1800/month I am forced to pay out, you’d think that covers everything. It doesn’t. We’ll have at least $500 of bills for this month alone because of 2 dr visits for my son and me, and a colonoscopy and ultrasound my wife had. 
    The costs are outrageous. Even after serious medical issues, the insurance company still makes money. Imagine if car insurance worked like that. Your car gets stolen and they send you a check, then you realize 3 months of insurance was equal to the value of your car. You’d probably drop insurance, right?
  • dionnesimonedionnesimone Posts: 86
    I've noticed that during this current political administration, my insurance covers much less in diagnostics and PT. :-(
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840
    mace1229 said:
    A lot of what’s wrong isn’t ACA, but the system that it forces us to join.
    At $1800/month I am forced to pay out, you’d think that covers everything. It doesn’t. We’ll have at least $500 of bills for this month alone because of 2 dr visits for my son and me, and a colonoscopy and ultrasound my wife had. 
    The costs are outrageous. Even after serious medical issues, the insurance company still makes money. Imagine if car insurance worked like that. Your car gets stolen and they send you a check, then you realize 3 months of insurance was equal to the value of your car. You’d probably drop insurance, right?
    lol

    This is why I work in the insurance industry.  House always wins.

    Also my coverage is great and premiums are incredibly cheap. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 12,297
    CM189191 said:
    mace1229 said:
    A lot of what’s wrong isn’t ACA, but the system that it forces us to join.
    At $1800/month I am forced to pay out, you’d think that covers everything. It doesn’t. We’ll have at least $500 of bills for this month alone because of 2 dr visits for my son and me, and a colonoscopy and ultrasound my wife had. 
    The costs are outrageous. Even after serious medical issues, the insurance company still makes money. Imagine if car insurance worked like that. Your car gets stolen and they send you a check, then you realize 3 months of insurance was equal to the value of your car. You’d probably drop insurance, right?
    lol

    This is why I work in the insurance industry.  House always wins.

    Also my coverage is great and premiums are incredibly cheap. 
    if ya can't beat em, join em.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 7,938
    The GOP is going to own this big time.  They are too busy defending tRump's dumbass comments to do something about the avalanche in premiums that is going to drop right before the election.
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951
    The GOP is going to own this big time.  They are too busy defending tRump's dumbass comments to do something about the avalanche in premiums that is going to drop right before the election.
    Vote out the incumbents.  All of them.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,655
    How many people ended up getting Insurance because of ACÁ ? 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,655
    Also look up at what most sane Americans care about for these upcoming elections yep you guessed it healthcare it’s above 50% nationwide that’s what most people care about and Republicans are on the wrong side of the argument ! 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,958
    edited October 24
    Also look up at what most sane Americans care about for these upcoming elections yep you guessed it healthcare it’s above 50% nationwide that’s what most people care about and Republicans are on the wrong side of the argument ! 
    But they’re running on lies. Like Walker in Wisconsin claiming you’ll be able to get insurance with pre-existing conditions while he’s actually defunded that provision. The repubs are lying sack of shits. Wait until people sign up for their “cheaper” version and realize it doesn’t cover much of anything. Suckers.
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  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain TexasPosts: 561
    How many people ended up getting Insurance because of ACÁ ? 
    I had it for 6 months before I qualified for coverage at a new job. I was very grateful for it.    
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,655
    How many people ended up getting Insurance because of ACÁ ? 
    I had it for 6 months before I qualified for coverage at a new job. I was very grateful for it.    
    Yep to have health coverage is huge in this country..
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,929
    How many people ended up getting Insurance because of ACÁ ? 
    There’s so many different numbers out there. Most include people who lost their insurance because of ACA then signed up under ACA.
    And I bet this number will drop because I heard thenpenaltiy for not having insurance is going away, so all those young healthy people forced to pay outrageous prices for coverage or pay a fine will no longer have to pay a fine if they opt out.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 7,938
    I'm glad to say that my premiums are only going up about 10% in January....
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

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    2003: Noblesville
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville
    2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago
    2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1
    2018: Wrigley #1, Wrigley #2, Boston #1, Boston #2
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