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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,430
    Ahh, I remember the days when people laughed and talked about how “no one goes to Canada from the US for health care”, due to the stellar American system. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 20,291
    Ahh, I remember the days when people laughed and talked about how “no one goes to Canada from the US for health care”, due to the stellar American system. 
    This would be a rally cry for a bunch of people but unfortunately Paul is bat shit crazy so no one will be yelling that.
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,660
    Yeah, funny how things change. I still wonder why he decided that paying 100% out of pocket in a foreign country was a better plan than using his Cadillac Congressional insurance policy to get it done at home. Maybe this Canadian doctor is really good at minimizing scarring, and Rand has been worrying about bikini season. 
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,230
    It's just a hernia is the thing, that's a very, very...very routine surgery!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,413
    U.S. Senator Rand Paul to travel to Canada for hernia surgery after neighbour's attack

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sen-rand-paul-scheduled-to-have-hernia-surgery-in-canada?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2dpzFFh720fGNcvpjO7hwzoUqIyt0edzsc5Qo3yLSv8pWJHDzxlTZ0mZU#Echobox=1547490860

    Interesting.  Just a guess here, but there is a private hernia clinic near Toronto that sees US patients.  I know this because a Teacher I worked with had his hernia surgery there and is suppose to be top notch in repairing a hernia and he was surprised that so many Americans were there.  Still interesting.

    A Paul spokeswoman didn’t immediately explain why Paul is having the surgery in Canada, where medical care is publicly funded and universally provided. Paul touts private-market approaches for U.S. health care problems.
    Maybe Randy Paul assumes the Deep State can’t reach into Canada?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,260
    Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

    His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

    The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

    It's a private hospital/clinic.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,413
    Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

    His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

    The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

    It's a private hospital/clinic.  
    Yea, we ShouldICE and not let his stupid ass back into the country. Oh Canada, he’ll soon be Treadue’s problem.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,260
    Rand Paul to have hernia surgery in Canada

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/425222-rand-paul-to-have-surgery-in-canada

    His hernia procedure is likely to cost between $5,000 and $8,000, the newspaper reported, citing court documents.

    The hospital where Paul will be treated, the Shouldice Hernia Hospital, is "the only licensed hospital in the world dedicated to repairing hernias," according to its website.

    It's a private hospital/clinic.  
    Yea, we ShouldICE and not let his stupid ass back into the country. Oh Canada, he’ll soon be Treadue’s problem.
    lol
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,610
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,804
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,727
    He should stay in Canada
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,610
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,804
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
    My deductible is $15,000.  If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it.  It's only a 6 hour drive for me.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,610
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
    My deductible is $15,000.  If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it.  It's only a 6 hour drive for me.
    Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
    I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 8,804
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
    My deductible is $15,000.  If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it.  It's only a 6 hour drive for me.
    Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
    I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.
    We pay $1,400/month for four of us.  We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.  

    I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here.  No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia.  I could probably fix one myself.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,610
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
    My deductible is $15,000.  If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it.  It's only a 6 hour drive for me.
    Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
    I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.
    We pay $1,400/month for four of us.  We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.  

    I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here.  No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia.  I could probably fix one myself.
    For what we pay all medical expenses should be covered. I don't have a choice in our plan, my employer picks it. They pay about $1000/month and it is about $800 out of pocket for me for the premiums. 
    A regular dr visit is $30, urgent care is $50, specialist is $100 (which my wife has to go to most of the time), and ER is $200. It can add up fast, we spent $300 over the Christmas break on urgent care. Each of our 2 kids got a sinus infection twice, my wife and I each got it once while traveling. Meds is what makes me really mad. About half the time we don;t use insurance because the "uninsured" or cash price is cheaper than our copay on many prescriptions, which are often $45 or more. Then if they send something off to the lab to test for strep or something else it usually comes to about $100.
    A bad month when a few of us get sick like we did, we can spent $800 on copays and meds on top of the $1800 premium for that month.   And that isnt anything major, just dr visits for the flu and stuff like that. That is basically what happened in December.
    My biggest complain is how expensive monthly premiums are.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,430
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I forgot about the attack. Maybe he doesn't care about paying for it because he knows its part of a settlement or something. And as a bonus, he can stick it to his neighbor who attacked him with a higher bill.
    He's going to Canada because it's cheaper than doing it in the US
    I believe he has an amazing health plan, as do pretty much all time politicians. There's no way it is cheaper in Canada for him.
    It sounds like there is a well known doctor or facility. And either he makes enough to where he doesn't care about paying out of pocket, or since it was the result of an attack he isn't on the hook for costs anyway so he is going where it is expensive. 
    Even on my terrible health plan it would still be cheaper for me to get something like that done here than pay out of pocket in Canada.
    My deductible is $15,000.  If I could pay $8,000 in Canada vs $15,000 in the US I would do it.  It's only a 6 hour drive for me.
    Holy cow, that is huge! I forget what my deductible is, but my max out of pocket is $2500 for an individual.
    I refer to it as terrible coverage because it costs about $1800/month and urgent care, ER visits and prescriptions get very expensive fast.
    We pay $1,400/month for four of us.  We're relatively healthy so I like the higher deductible.  

    I was going to ask about your horrible coverage if it would be cheaper for you here.  No way Paul is going to Canada for a "well known" doctor....it's a fucking hernia.  I could probably fix one myself.
    Any surgical procedure can be problematic if he has other health issues that complicate it. There may be more to it than a straightforward hernia repair. 

    That clinic advertises that they use a different surgical technique than typical, and that they claim has a lower risk of long term side effects. I don’t know why it wouldn’t be available in the US, but there you go. 
     
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,260
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,727
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
    This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

    They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,571
    weird...health care is expensive...who knew?

    How does your health care expenditure compare to your budgets for food, car or home?

    For example, if I were to ballpark annual costs : 
    • Health care insurance, Rx, and appointment co-pays : $2500 per year
    • Car gas & maintenance : $3500
    • Mortgage, assn dues, & home maintenance : $20000
    • Grocery/food : $10000
    • Student loans : paid off
    • Pearl Jam concerts, merch & travel : $priceless
    This is really rough napkin math.  But health care isn't so expensive for me when compared to other 'essentials'.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,260
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
    This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

    They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha
    I meant one of the best clinics.  And anyone who claims any surgery is routine, then why whenever I had a routine procedure at hospitals do they make us sign a form so we understand that there is a risk.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,610
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    CM189191 said:
    weird...health care is expensive...who knew?

    How does your health care expenditure compare to your budgets for food, car or home?

    For example, if I were to ballpark annual costs : 
    • Health care insurance, Rx, and appointment co-pays : $2500 per year
    • Car gas & maintenance : $3500
    • Mortgage, assn dues, & home maintenance : $20000
    • Grocery/food : $10000
    • Student loans : paid off
    • Pearl Jam concerts, merch & travel : $priceless
    This is really rough napkin math.  But health care isn't so expensive for me when compared to other 'essentials'.
    Healthcare is my biggest expense. Partly because I moved to Colorado 7 years ago, just before the housing market exploded here and when interest rates were a record low. That wouldn't be the case if I bought y house today or still lived in California. It would probably be close to equal if I bought my house today.
    But my employee contribution to just monthly premiums alone is $100 more than my mortgage. And my employer pays $1000 on top of that each month which theoretically would go to employee pay if we didn't have insurance, and that doesn't factor any of my out-of-pocket expenses. 
    Health is definitely the highest expense for me. The next highest is mortgage, which is probably only about half of what I pay for health (not even counting my employer contribution).
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 12,230
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
    This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

    They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha
    I meant one of the best clinics.  And anyone who claims any surgery is routine, then why whenever I had a routine procedure at hospitals do they make us sign a form so we understand that there is a risk.
    Because anesthesia is risky. 
    Inguinal hernia repair is very, very routine, but a small percentage of people who undergo anesthesia die for no other reason.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,430
    rgambs said:
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
    This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

    They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha
    I meant one of the best clinics.  And anyone who claims any surgery is routine, then why whenever I had a routine procedure at hospitals do they make us sign a form so we understand that there is a risk.
    Because anesthesia is risky. 
    Inguinal hernia repair is very, very routine, but a small percentage of people who undergo anesthesia die for no other reason.
    Sure, that’s a risk but not the only one. Unexpected complications, unusual anatomy, surgical infections .... all can happen even with “routine” procedures. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,413
    I used to work with a guy who spent 30 years running facilities in the health care industry. One day he pulled me aside and told me that, "hospitals are places that you go to to die. Best not to end up in one." Harsh, I know but it shook me to my core because I never had thought of it that way.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,260
    I used to work with a guy who spent 30 years running facilities in the health care industry. One day he pulled me aside and told me that, "hospitals are places that you go to to die. Best not to end up in one." Harsh, I know but it shook me to my core because I never had thought of it that way.
    My sister in law who is a nurse says it's risky sometimes to go as a visitor.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 20,291
    CM189191 said:
    weird...health care is expensive...who knew?

    How does your health care expenditure compare to your budgets for food, car or home?

    For example, if I were to ballpark annual costs : 
    • Health care insurance, Rx, and appointment co-pays : $2500 per year
    • Car gas & maintenance : $3500
    • Mortgage, assn dues, & home maintenance : $20000
    • Grocery/food : $10000
    • Student loans : paid off
    • Pearl Jam concerts, merch & travel : $priceless
    This is really rough napkin math.  But health care isn't so expensive for me when compared to other 'essentials'.
    You only pay $2500 a year for health insurance?

    My plan is $9800 a year...
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    I don't know how any american with health insurance can afford food. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 16,287
    I removed my appendix. 

    I paid 30 dollars for the emergency visit. 

    Then 20 dollars for the stay (10 dollars a night)

    = 50 dollars.

    No health insurance.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,727
     I worked with a teacher that had his hernia repaired there.  He went there because there suppose to be one of the clinics around.  
    This seems like one of those commercials (at&t maybe?)...

    They are “one of the clinics” hahahaha
    I meant one of the best clinics.  And anyone who claims any surgery is routine, then why whenever I had a routine procedure at hospitals do they make us sign a form so we understand that there is a risk.
    I know, just perfect for the recent string of commercials ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
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