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  • JC29856 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Because they're the party of this guy.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/12/ted-cruz-just-liked-hardcore-porn-video-twitter/

    How'd he vote on that pork filled disaster relief aid bill for Texas, by the way? Nice to see he and his party have principles.
    "someone posted to his Twitter feed"
    Doesn't negate his holier than thouness, now does it? I'll bet he's got things written on napkins too.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    Cruz and all far right religious wackos are huge hypocrites. One of the reason's I left this party many years ago. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    party face!

    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/539457/
    empirical
    In recent years, Congress has instead ceded such questions to successive presidents. For example, President Barack Obama waged war in at least seven countries under the auspices of an Authorization to Use Military Force that legislators passed shortly after 9/11, even though its language specifies “those nations, organizations, or persons” that “planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,” a limit that has been oft exceeded.
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,255
    Rand Paul asks Congress to debate and vote on wars, sign your name to it, own it, or reject it.
    Makes sense to me.

    "what happened"
    break the 8 year silence
    "come back"


    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856 said:
    Rand Paul asks Congress to debate and vote on wars, sign your name to it, own it, or reject it.
    Makes sense to me.

    "what happened"
    break the 8 year silence
    "come back"


    Trump owns it now. He owns all of it. Lock, stock and barrel. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/politics/ted-cruz-twitter/index.html



    JUST a staffing issue. Nothing to see here

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  • I heard he had Comet Pizza take out menus in his office and kept a napkin with drawings about pizza and maps in his dorm room desk.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292

    Guess this could also go in the dem thread...

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-recent-rush-of-gop-retirements-is-good-for-democrats/

    The Recent Rush Of GOP Retirements Is Good For Democrats

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    edited September 15
    Out of the swamp....or into the shadows?
    http://www.opensecrets.org/news/reports/shadow-lobbying


    Out of the swamp... or into the shadows?

    People change jobs all the time, but what does that mean in the lobbying world? Our research found that nearly a third of the lobbyists who stayed at the same organization, but did not report any lobbying activity in the first quarter, have titles that indicate they are still working on influencing U.S. federal policy. Was the swamp drained, or are they simply trying to circumvent the rules?




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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292

    So I'm no expert but, golly....it sure seems like they are trying to rush through a huge bill that will affect millions of lives and 1/6 of our economy without knowing how much it will cost all for a short term political gain.


    Why oh why would the republican party do this? Sure seems like the opposite of conservatism to me. What happened to this party?

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  • So I'm no expert but, golly....it sure seems like they are trying to rush through a huge bill that will affect millions of lives and 1/6 of our economy without knowing how much it will cost all for a short term political gain.


    Why oh why would the republican party do this? Sure seems like the opposite of conservatism to me. What happened to this party?

    Obama happened to them.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,750

    So I'm no expert but, golly....it sure seems like they are trying to rush through a huge bill that will affect millions of lives and 1/6 of our economy without knowing how much it will cost all for a short term political gain.


    Why oh why would the republican party do this? Sure seems like the opposite of conservatism to me. What happened to this party?

    I was just discussing this with someone who is currently getting into politics - he's a centrist, but open to both sides of the spectrum, depending on the issue. His take, after hobnobbing with actual conservative politicians and attending their events, is that they are anything but fiscally conservative when it comes to countering the left just for the sake of countering the left. He was rather appalled by the hypocrisy.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 9,047
    PJ_Soul said:

    So I'm no expert but, golly....it sure seems like they are trying to rush through a huge bill that will affect millions of lives and 1/6 of our economy without knowing how much it will cost all for a short term political gain.


    Why oh why would the republican party do this? Sure seems like the opposite of conservatism to me. What happened to this party?

    I was just discussing this with someone who is currently getting into politics - he's a centrist, but open to both sides of the spectrum, depending on the issue. His take, after hobnobbing with actual conservative politicians and attending their events, is that they are anything but fiscally conservative when it comes to countering the left just for the sake of countering the left. He was rather appalled by the hypocrisy.
    Good on him for seeing past the hobs and knobs.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    The Maverick strikes again.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,605
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    tbergs said:
    Good for McCain and Rand Paul!  This won't be the last of this issue but killing the Graham-Cassidy proposal will be a step in the right direction.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,878
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    edited September 22
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    I think the anticipation is Collins, Murkowski or Paul will vote against it again too though.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    We're living on the edge of something big. It's a fantastic time in history to be alive.
    AMT, 1.25.15, 00:36 hrs.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 28,292
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Excellent!  I will follow!
    We're living on the edge of something big. It's a fantastic time in history to be alive.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    Collins 202-224-2523
    Murkowski 202-224-6665
    We're living on the edge of something big. It's a fantastic time in history to be alive.
    AMT, 1.25.15, 00:36 hrs.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,878
    brianlux said:
    Collins 202-224-2523
    Murkowski 202-224-6665
    thank you!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    Collins 202-224-2523
    Murkowski 202-224-6665
    thank you!
    :plus_one:

    Murkowski's answering machine options don't include out-of-state but I pressed "2" and left a message anyway.   :smile:
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 6,034
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?

    It can't hurt, that's for sure, and it takes only very small bit of time to make the call.
    We're living on the edge of something big. It's a fantastic time in history to be alive.
    AMT, 1.25.15, 00:36 hrs.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,878
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?


    This vote will affect people outside their constituency.  

    You only leave your contact information if you want a response.  It's just a voice mail box.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,666
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?


    This vote will affect people outside their constituency.  

    You only leave your contact information if you want a response.  It's just a voice mail box.
    Good point.  I doubt they track every call and it's quick  easy to do!
    We're living on the edge of something big. It's a fantastic time in history to be alive.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 6,034
    CM189191 said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?


    This vote will affect people outside their constituency.  

    You only leave your contact information if you want a response.  It's just a voice mail box.
    Many of their votes affect people outside of their constituents. I think it's wishful thinking that they'll pay attention to people who can't vote for them, but I wouldn't tell anyone not to try. 
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