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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    "The President has great difficulty with the truth. On many issues."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    "I think that he's proven himself unable to rise to the occasion ... I don't think that that's possible. He's obviously not going to rise to the occasion as president."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    "I would hope the staff over there would figure out ways of controlling him when they know that everything he said today was absolutely untrue."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
     "The shame of it is, there are some some really good people around him, and if he would stay out of their way and let them perform, people like (Rex) Tillerson and (James) Mattis and others, we could really make progress on things that matter greatly to our country."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    Republicans KNOW this president is a danger to our democracy.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,698
    edited October 2017
    Flake out. Going after Trump (Edit: and his party) in a speech now.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 27,506
    dignin said:
    Flake out. Going after Trump (Edit: and his party) in a speech now.
    This is amazing.  Could have done it earlier though...
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,083
    How long will Ryan keep his nose in trump’s crack?
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capitalPosts: 2,499
    ^^^^ He's attacking GOP members of Congress as much as Agent Orange. And they deserve it, for putting party before country and doing nothing to stop 45. Enough Republicans have spoken up now that we know that they all/mostly are well aware that 45 is wholly unfit for the role.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • dignindignin Posts: 6,698
    dignin said:
    Flake out. Going after Trump (Edit: and his party) in a speech now.
    This is amazing.  Could have done it earlier though...
    Agreed, but better late than never.

    Who is next? Who can reassemble their spine and speak out publicly?
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 2,447
    dignin said:
    Flake out. Going after Trump (Edit: and his party) in a speech now.
    “It is time for our complicity and our accommodation of the unacceptable to end,” he said
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    Only downside to Flake and Corker etc not running again---means it will be easier for the pro-Trump idiots to win by default....
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707

    Flake-

    “Reckless, outrageous and undignified behavior has become excused as telling it like it is when it is actually just reckless, outrageous and undignified,"

    "And when such behavior emanates from the top of our government, it is something else. It is dangerous to a democracy."

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 20,087
    Ryan & McConell will never ever turn on Orange bafoon they are terrified of him Ryan is a coward it's written all over his face ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 2,447

    In the dead of night, Republicans vote to give lawsuit immunity to banks

    Tuesday night, as many Americans were preparing to go to bed, an evenly divided Senate voted to give broad lawsuit immunity to credit card companies, auto lenders, credit reporting companies like Equifax, and many other financial firms. The 50-50 tie in the Senate was broken by Vice President Mike Pence (R), and the House approved the lawsuit immunity measure. President Trump is expected to sign it.

    The resolution passed by the Senate overrides a rule created by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), which prevents many financial firms from engaging in two abusive practices. The rule prohibited much of the financial industry from using “forced arbitration” agreements — a common tactic where a company refuses to do business with consumers who will not sign away their right to sue the company in a real court.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707




    Are the Republicans the Party of Flake, or the Party of Trump?

    The Arizona Senator’s speech was a moment. But now, Republicans face their own moment. And the state’s Democrats salivate on the sidelines...


    We’ll get the politics out of the way first; Jeff Flake was probably going to lose the Republican primary in Arizona, and likely the general election if he survived the primary. The anti-anti-Trump right was swift to note this, and they’re not entirely wrong. Flake said it himself in his remarks. Kelli Ward, like some creature born from Dr. Bannon’s laboratory, is a perfect confection for the Trumpist GOP base, and was going drag Flake through a year of Breitbartean hell. Although left-ish by Arizona standards, Democrat Kyrsten Sinema is colorful, smart, and will raise a metric ton of national money, and would have been a meaningful challenge in the general.

    That doesn’t make the speech Flake delivered on the Senate floor today any less relevant or important. Some days, and today was one, a man speaks from the heart and the gut with the liberating freedom that the political stakes don’t matter all that much any more. Some days, a man lays out the case for our better angels with a ragged catch of emotion in his voice that tells us the loss he’s expressing isn’t about him. It’s about us. 

    When Senator Flake stood in the well of the Senate today and gave his extraordinarily heartfelt and powerful speech, it was a reminder that in an age where our political dialogue has increasingly been reduced to the 140-character rantings of a President with an indifferent education and a defective moral compass, words spoken for history still matter. It was a reminder that we were not always this ugly, seething mass of political malice disguised as “shaking up Washington,” but the people of a nation founded on better ideals. Our politics weren’t always driven by an inferiority complex that turned a party dedicated to liberty into a party dedicated to bitching about CNN.

    Those painful reminders in the speech of what we stood for once, as a party, as a movement, as a people and a nation would strike deep in the hearts and minds of good men and women. Washington today though, is short of those in my Republican party. Those who privately despise and fear Trump heard Flake today and loathed their own weakness. Those who tolerate Trump for the sake of “the agenda” (whatever that means in the era of Trump’s ever-changing moods and endless chain of catastrophic self-inflicted failures) tried to silence the moral fire alarms screaming in their minds. Those who support Trump aren’t worth worrying about; you can’t shame the shameless, or educate the wilfully mulish.

    It was the speech of a better man, not a beaten man. It was a speech of a man who stood up for something. Unlike the vast majority of men and women in serving Washington today, Jeff Flake didn’t hide his critique behind off-the-record quotes, whispered concerns, furrowed brows, and promises the famed Trump pivot is coming and Paradise is near.

    It was a speech that the burn-it-down crowd will ignore, focusing solely on the short-term outcome, believing that their movement to purify the party in Trump’s image is coming into its own. They’re happy with the fallen American standard of leadership: early morning golden-toilet rage-tweeting, political beefing, phony wall-building, and the table scraps of regulatory rollbacks. Oh, and “but Gorsuch!”

    The real winners here may be the Democrats; open seats are much easier to win than races against incumbents, and now Arizona is open, and 2018’s tough map of only eight GOP Senate seats in play. Arizona’s younger, rapidly growing Hispanic population, an influx of California migrants, Trump’s abysmal approval ratings, and Arizona’s affordable media markets make it a must-compete state.


    Trump won Arizona by 3.5% over Hillary Clinton, the worst showing since Bob Dole lost to Bill Clinton by 2.2% in 1996. About a million of Arizona's 4.6 million eligible voters are Hispanic. That’s 21% of the voting-age population. This isn’t Alabama, kids.

    Perhaps Kelli Ward will emerge as an articulate, graceful, and persuasive candidate who can address voters beyond the narrow confines of the comments section of the Trumpentariat’s lunatic Facebook conspiracy pages. Then again, perhaps a naked leprechaun will perform unicorn dressage on my lawn tonight under the pale moonlight.

    Some inflection points in our political history are sharp-edged, clear in memory and consequence. Some take longer to see and understand. Flake’s speech is worth watching and reading, because although Trump’s base and his allies will mock it, I am certain the judgment of history will not.

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  • John telling it like it is. Trump must be so proud of his ability to lead and inspire his adopted party.

    John Boehner Rips 'A**hole' Jason Chaffetz In Scorching Interview - HuffPost
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  • Has anyone gotten comments on the day’s developments from Ryan and McConnell? Proud republican moment that it is?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,707
    Has anyone gotten comments on the day’s developments from Ryan and McConnell? Proud republican moment that it is?
    My hunch is they will still tow the company line for the time being
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,083
    It puts them in the spotlight to make a loyalty statement about trump. Either they are or they aren’t. Fun times regardless of which way they choose!
  • It puts them in the spotlight to make a loyalty statement about trump. Either they are or they aren’t. Fun times regardless of which way they choose!
    Watching Ryan squirm and stammer yesterday was fun. Almost as fun as connecting dots.
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  • Seems that the party of “law and order” is having a problem with “law and order.” Poor Newt.

    Newt Gingrich Is Outraged Paul Manafort Was Woken Up In His Pajamas - HuffPost
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2017
    Here is the republican version of Liz Warren, yap yap yap do nothing yap yap yap do nothing do nothing yap yap yap yap yap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikYXeJyqs&feature=youtu.be

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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,272
    edited October 2017
    JC29856 said:
    Here is the republican version of Liz Warren, yap yap yap do nothing yap yap yap do nothing do nothing yap yap yap yap yap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikYXeJyqs&feature=youtu.be

    EDIT: JC - my apologies. I didn't watch your Youtube link, but assumed since you mentioned the "Republican version of Liz Warren", that you were also speaking about a woman. 
     
    ORIGINAL: This is the second time where you have used the term 'yapping' to describe a woman talking. Why don't you stop your yap yap yap do nothing-ing yourself? As far as I know, you're not exactly an agent of change in any substantial way.
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  • Spineless weasels.

    -- On Capitol Hill: Senate Republicans largely avoided weighing in on the Russia investigation or the substance of the charges — deferring questions instead to Mueller. “That’s [Mueller’s] wheelhouse, not ours,” Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Tex.) said. “I probably know less than you,” Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) said, declaring that he was “way behind on that issue.” (Karoun Demirjian and Sean Sullivan)

    • Mitch McConnell (Ky.) left his “press conference” on judicial nominations before reporters could ask him about the indictments.
    • Paul Ryan (Wis.) avoided the subject in a radio interview, except to say that it wouldn't interfere with House Republicans' efforts to overhaul the tax system.
    • Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (N.C.) said “nothing that happened” on Monday will change his approach to the investigation. “The special counsel has found a reason on criminal violations to indict two individuals and I will leave that up to the special counsel to make that determination,” he said in a statement.

    -- On right-wing media: 

    • “The Paul Manafort indictment is much ado about nothing . . . except as a vehicle to squeeze Manafort, which is special counsel Robert Mueller’s objective — as we have been arguing for three months,” Andrew C. McCarthy argues on National Review.
    • “They don’t have anything on Trump,” Laura Ingraham said on Fox News. “If they had something on Trump, that would be the indictment today. … I mean, we don’t know anything more than we see in these 31 pages, but as far as a smoking gun that in any way casts aspersions on Donald Trump — it’s a nothing-burger.”
    • “If there was collusion, any evidence or even an allegation has yet to be revealed by the special counsel,” Fox News’s chief White House correspondent John Roberts noted.
    • Fox’s Sean Hannity suggested a new Clinton investigation on his show.
    • New York Post: “Robert Mueller’s big catch was low-level, unpaid intern.”

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,083
    A lot of quotes from people who don’t understand law and how prosecutors and investigators operate. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,272
    A lot of quotes from people who don’t understand law and how prosecutors and investigators operate. 
    Unfortunately, Trump has proven that many Americans don't really care all that much about whether you possess the sapiential authority to have your voice heard: they will listen and accept your opinions/instructions for as long as your opinion/desired outcome agrees with theirs. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is the republican version of Liz Warren, yap yap yap do nothing yap yap yap do nothing do nothing yap yap yap yap yap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikYXeJyqs&feature=youtu.be

    This is the second time where you have used the term 'yapping' to describe a woman talking. Why don't you stop your yap yap yap do nothing-ing yourself? As far as I know, you're not exactly an agent of change in any substantial way.
    without knowing how Gowdy "identifies", Im fairly certain he is a male. If you have any info to the contrary please advise

    #berniewhore
    #letsplaytoo
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    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,272
    JC29856 said:
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is the republican version of Liz Warren, yap yap yap do nothing yap yap yap do nothing do nothing yap yap yap yap yap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikYXeJyqs&feature=youtu.be

    This is the second time where you have used the term 'yapping' to describe a woman talking. Why don't you stop your yap yap yap do nothing-ing yourself? As far as I know, you're not exactly an agent of change in any substantial way.
    without knowing how Gowdy "identifies", Im fairly certain he is a male. If you have any info to the contrary please advise

    #berniewhore
    #letsplaytoo
    JC - my apologies. I didn't watch your Youtube link, but assumed since you mentioned the "Republican version of Liz Warren", that you were also speaking about a woman. I'll edit my initial post to reflect this.
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