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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,023
    oftenreading said:
    CM189191 said:
    oftenreading said:
    The Juggler said:
    brianlux said:
    CM189191 said:
    so....isn't the vote 50/50 now with Pence as the tie-breaker?
    A lot (maybe the whole ball of wax) depends on which way Collins and Murkowski goes.  I hope constituents in Maine and Alaska are putting on the pressure.
    Anyone can call them. I actually called Collins' office the other day
    Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?


    This vote will affect people outside their constituency.  

    You only leave your contact information if you want a response.  It's just a voice mail box.
    Many of their votes affect people outside of their constituents. I think it's wishful thinking that they'll pay attention to people who can't vote for them, but I wouldn't tell anyone not to try. 
    True, you haven't told anybody what to do or not do here but statements like:

    "Anyone can call, but honestly, do they pay attention to anyone that isn't a constituent - i.e. a voter?"
    "I think it's wishful thinking that they'll pay attention to people who can't vote for them..."

    seem disparaging of the attempts some of us have made by making these calls.  Minor point, but I'm not sure what the point of it is other than to be discouraging.


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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Posts: 6,157
    edited September 2017
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Actually he's done a shitload. A captain must repair and right his ship before steering the course.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/24/what-trump-has-undone/
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Actually he's done a shitload. A captain must repair and right his ship before steering the course.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/24/what-trump-has-undone/

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 2017
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Actually he's done a shitload. A captain must repair and right his ship before steering the course.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/24/what-trump-has-undone/
    Really? These are mostly executive orders which this party used to pretend to hate.

    Why can't they get anything done legislatively despite controlling all branches of government?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    edited September 2017
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Actually he's done a shitload. A captain must repair and right his ship before steering the course.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/24/what-trump-has-undone/
    That list makes me sick. To summarize, he has single handedly expedited the extinction of humankind. A tall order, but he has done more than any President before him to lead us to that goal. Bravo.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908

    Collins is a no.


    Bump

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,974
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    The Juggler said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    To answer your opening question OP the Repub party is in power and has gone nowhere and is likely to survive all allegations unless something more than Russia or ptape is brought forward. 


    Why can't they get anything done?
    Actually he's done a shitload. A captain must repair and right his ship before steering the course.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/24/what-trump-has-undone/
    you call that list "repairing the ship"? I call that putting screen doors on a submarine. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 2017

    Been talking about "repealing and replacing" for 7 years and cannot do it despite controlling all branches of government.


    I'll ask again--what happened to the republican party? Why can't they get anything done?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Close enough to Alabama to be relevant. Oh how the chickens come home to roost. You're seeing the heart and soul of the Republican Party on full display folks. What they've always been for the past 40 years.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited September 2017

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party: Nobody wins. Everybody loses.

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    PJPOWER said:
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
    No, it's the, "I hate everyone except whitey who prays like me."
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
    No, it's the, "I hate everyone except whitey who prays like me."
    So, it’s the KKK?
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    They are two election cycles away from nominating a Crooked Hillary meme for President.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
    No, it's the, "I hate everyone except whitey who prays like me."
    So, it’s the KKK?
    At what point do you think race plays a role in something?

  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2017
    Go Beavers said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
    No, it's the, "I hate everyone except whitey who prays like me."
    So, it’s the KKK?
    At what point do you think race plays a role in something?

    I think it plays a role in many things.  Especially most of your comments around here... Do I think that the race card is overused, yes...yes I do.
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    I think the term "race card" is overused. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2017
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think the term "race card" is overused. 
    I agree with that too.  I also feel that the term racist is overused.  For instance “Hobby Lobby selling cotton is racist”.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    The term "trump card" has soiled any euchre game for me. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,949
    I think the term "I'm not a racist" is overused.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    Also overused: conservatives linking videos to black guys who agree with them. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Go Beavers said:
    The term "trump card" has soiled any euchre game for me. 
    Lol, is “Trumping” something now the equivalent to grabbing its p?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The Juggler said:

    Establishment, Trump backed candidate loses to right wing wacko backed by Steve Bannon.


    Today's Republican Party. Nobody wins.

    Must be Antifa
    No, it's the, "I hate everyone except whitey who prays like me."
    So, it’s the KKK?
    He's probably a card carrying member. Have you seen or heard where he stands on issues? He thinks the Bible should Trump federal law. Christian jihadi wanting to implement sharia law. Way to go Alabamy!
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    PJPOWER said:
    Go Beavers said:
    The term "trump card" has soiled any euchre game for me. 
    Lol, is “Trumping” something now the equivalent to grabbing its p?
    You can pretty much swap out trump for any bad behavior verb: "I'm going to go trump on your ass". "You just got trumped". There's a lot of possibilities. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,168
    "He was arrested and charged with trumping in the first degree."
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    JimmyV said:
    "He was arrested and charged with trumping in the first degree."
    Lol, laughing so hard I almost Trumped my pants!
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    Dems have flipped 8 of 27 Republican held state legislative seats. At some point Republicans will have to deal with trump's toxicity. 
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/state-legislative-elections-annette-tadeo-kari-lerner/index.html

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Go Beavers said:
    Dems have flipped 8 of 27 Republican held state legislative seats. At some point Republicans will have to deal with trump's toxicity. 
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/state-legislative-elections-annette-tadeo-kari-lerner/index.html

    It's a small start but trump is untenable, particularly after the Mueller investigation really takes off after the first of the year.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,172
    spineless, sanctimonious, hypocritical cocksuckers.

    3 senators excluded.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2017
    Wobbie said:
    spineless, sanctimonious, hypocritical cocksuckers.

    3 senators excluded.

    Imagine if you changed the word in front of suckers to the p word.
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