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    PJ_Soul said:
    Am I the only one who thinks Trump's hair suits him perfectly, and that he probably looks as good as he can look with it? Yes, it's fairly strange, and yes, the fact that it is a giant comb over is somewhat comical (and sort of amazing), but I don't think it's strange looking in a bad way. He would look worse if he cut it like a normal person, not better.

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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    What if the two goofiest coiffed heads of state swapped hair?

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,542
    jeffbr said:
    What if the two goofiest coiffed heads of state swapped hair?

    Well Trump looks much worse and way more evil, but Kim Jong Un looks way better! I guess that means Trump's hair wins. :lol:
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    What if the two goofiest coiffed heads of state swapped hair?

    Well Trump looks much worse and way more evil, but Kim Jong Un looks way better! I guess that means Trump's hair wins. :lol:
    Sadly, I think you're right. :rofl:

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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    jeffbr said:
    What if the two goofiest coiffed heads of state swapped hair?

    Holy crap! Haha!
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    edited August 2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    Logically, I understand what you are saying, but emotionally, I would counter that if they REALLY cared at all, they wouldn't engage in these bullshit wars to begin with.
    I figure the majority of them are simply brainwashed into thinking they are truly serving their country and defending freedom, and that brainwashing often starts when they're babies. Then the military gets a hold of them and finishes the job. And then pile on the excessive admiration and adulation and gratitude generally handed to them by the nation and the media and the flag waving masses .... that must make them feel like they are truly righteous. That doesn't mean they are void of emotion or don't value the lives of their soldiers (again, that doesn't include the sociopaths and psychopaths in the military).
    This is exactly what happens.  Prgressives even get sucked in.  Watching an NFL/MLB game is like a big military fellating infomercial.


    Patriotism is a disease.  It's a way for those in power to keep the masses voting against their best interest and dying for old white dudes interests.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    Smellyman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:
    Logically, I understand what you are saying, but emotionally, I would counter that if they REALLY cared at all, they wouldn't engage in these bullshit wars to begin with.
    I figure the majority of them are simply brainwashed into thinking they are truly serving their country and defending freedom, and that brainwashing often starts when they're babies. Then the military gets a hold of them and finishes the job. And then pile on the excessive admiration and adulation and gratitude generally handed to them by the nation and the media and the flag waving masses .... that must make them feel like they are truly righteous. That doesn't mean they are void of emotion or don't value the lives of their soldiers (again, that doesn't include the sociopaths and psychopaths in the military).
    This is exactly what happens.  Prgressives even get sucked in.  Watching an NFL/MLB game is like a big military fellating infomercial.


    Patriotism is a disease.  It's a way for those in power to keep the masses voting against their best interest and dying for old white dudes interests.

    Ok. Now that you three have it all figured out amongst yourselves.  Between you three who is the President, Vice President and Secretary?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Remember that time they found another email from a high ranking campaign staffer seeking a meeting between Trump campaign officials and Putin, Putin, Putin? That was pretty cool. Remember that? I do. Context and subtleties exposing brilliantly brilliant unteneableness. Remember that.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Remember that time they found another email from a high ranking campaign staffer seeking a meeting between Trump campaign officials and Putin, Putin, Putin? That was pretty cool. Remember that? I do. Context and subtleties exposing brilliantly brilliant unteneableness. Remember that.
    No... never happened.  Next thing you know someone will say something crazy like the Deputy Chief of Staff was trying to set a meeting with Putin last June.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    edited August 2017
    Obama sent him. Or cray cray attracts cray cray?
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    ‘Michael the Black Man’ at Trump’s Ariz. rally is ex-cult member
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    Current Trump cult member.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Do you remember that time the president stood at a lectern during a rally and said all the red lights on the television cameras were going off? Do you remember that? It was so cool. You know why? Do you remember? Because my tv never went blank. Remember? But you know what was even cooler? Do you remember? It was watching the unhinged insanity take over. That was really cool. I'm sure you remember, right? Pretty cool, huh, if you remember.
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    Do you remember that time the president stood at a lectern during a rally and said all the red lights on the television cameras were going off? Do you remember that? It was so cool. You know why? Do you remember? Because my tv never went blank. Remember? But you know what was even cooler? Do you remember? It was watching the unhinged insanity take over. That was really cool. I'm sure you remember, right? Pretty cool, huh, if you remember.
    All's I remember is when President Trump pooped his pants on the golf course. Oh yeah... and when he mocked the disabled guy. I guess I haven't forgotten when he admonished the Nazi protestors for not letting the Nazis march and display themselves.

    He got peed on too.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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    I read the script from last nights rally, I watched the end. It seems to me he is the same Trump that campaigned and the same Trump that was D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T-I-C-A-L-L-Y elected.
    Last night he went off script, went after the media, our political systems, the democrats, the republicans (some specifically) and even his staff! He doubled down on his Charlottesville response, the wall, he said the repeal and replace fight isn't over, tax reform bragged about jobs, blah blah.
    If you're expecting a change in delivery or demeanor from campaign Trump, president elect Trump or first 100 days Trump, forget it, not happening. Last night couldn't have been any more clearer that he isn't changing. Get used to it, get over it and move on to more important subjects topics that actually matter, ignore the superficial.   
    Like the Mueller investigation. There's a reason Trump berated McConnell for not "protecting" him from the investigation. 
    sir, take a deep breath, sir...
    sir, slow down, sir...
    everything is going to be alright, okay sir...
    sir, now listen, carefully, sir...
    nobody will get hurt, just listen carefully...
    sir, put the Mueller investigation down, sloooooowly, sir...
    that's it, good,. sir there, right there sir...
    real slowly, easy, easy now, sir...
    okay now, sir, now let go, let go, sir...
    sir, listen to me sir, let go... you can do it
    let it go, sir, let it go, sir
    good, great, you're doing great...let it go now
    sir, now listen, one last thing, sir...
    step away from the mueller investigation, sir.... slowly..
    step away sir, your safe now, the Mueller investigation is safe now
    step away sir

    Its going to be a glorious day when the indictments get handed down. Your ability to deny reality and make shit up is astounding. Order up!

    Indictment Parties will be all the rage in 2019. I can't wait!
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,287
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-rally-media-huppke-20170823-story.htmlColumn

    An apology to Donald Trump, from the 'fake news' media

    Trump covered topics ranging from the border wall to the events in Charlottesville. (Aug. 23, 2017) (Sign up for our free video newsletter here http://bit.ly/2n6VKPR)

    After watching Donald Trump's campaign rally in Phoenix, it became clear that we in the media owe the president a sincere apology.

    Trump used Tuesday night's rally to denounce the "fake news" media for being mean, dishonest, bad, America-hating and an all-around pain in his keister.


    Referring to controversial comments he made in the wake of a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Trump said: "The words were perfect."

    He even quoted his own perfect words, cleverly omitting the part where he blamed the Charlottesville tragedy on "many sides" rather than just on the Nazi side, creating the controversy in the first place.

    After spending 15 or so minutes complaining about the media, he said of the media: "For the most part, all they do is complain. … These are really, really dishonest people and they're bad people and I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."

    Well, I, for one, feel just terrible. It was never my intention, as a journalist, to make the president of the United States feel like he's under some form of scrutiny or that he should be held accountable for the words that fall out of his mouth.

    I wasn't able to reach all my fake news brother and sisters after the rally — the instant-messaging system George Soros has us use was on the blink — but I feel confident most would concur with this formal apology.

    President Trump:

    As a fake news media member in good standing, I would like to sincerely apologize for forcing you to hold a campaign rally eight months into your first term as president.

    I'm sorry that in the course of that rally I forced you to misquote yourself and to devote one reference to Heather Heyer, the woman killed during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, versus an inordinate number of references to the journalists who cover you and your administration.

    I definitely should not have made you fail to mention the 10 American sailors who died or are missing from the Navy destroyer USS John S. McCain after it collided with an oil tanker Monday.

    That was callous of me, and I am deeply sorry.

    I also showed poor judgment in making you seem almost annoyed that you had to properly denounce the various hate groups that marched in Charlottesville chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

    And I definitely shouldn't have had you say this during the rally: "I hit 'em with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis. I got them all in there, Let's see. KKK, we have KKK."

    That almost made it sound like condemning hate groups made you the victim. Please accept my apology for that bit. It was callous and wholly inappropriate.

    While I'm apologizing for Nazi stuff, I'm sorry I entered your brain and forced you to express sympathy for Jeffrey Lord, a commentator who was recently fired from CNN for tweeting "Sieg Heil!" at the head of a liberal watchdog group.

    In retrospect, that was a weird and dreadfully timed thing to have you say, and I hope you will forgive me.

    I regret having you say the following about clean coal: "They're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal, they're gonna clean it."

    Upon further reflection, that statement made it sound like you haven't the foggiest idea what the term "clean coal" means and are quite unintelligent. That is 100 percent my bad. Perhaps with time we can mend the damage my recklessness has done to your reputation.

    On two occasions, I lied to you via telepathy and convinced you that the cameras broadcasting your rally had been shut down because the media were too frightened to share your criticism of CNN and other outlets. That was transparently false, particularly since I watched the rally in its entirety on CNN. I'm sorry I made you lie about that. Twice.

    Rather than have you refer to Republican Sen. John McCain, a war hero currently battling brain cancer, by name, I took the cowardly and childish path of instructing you to mock and taunt him using the phrase, "One vote away." That was a reference to McCain's deciding vote against your health care bill, which would have repealed Obamacare.

    Hearing you screeching, "One vote away!" like an insolent child did not set the presidential tone I hoped it would. It was a terrible decision by me, and I am drowning in my own shame.

    Convincing you to say that you will, if necessary, shut down the government in order to build your preposterous border wall was folly of near-biblical proportions, framing you as either: stubborn and narcissistic to the point of jeopardizing the country's fiscal well-being and doing real harm to Americans who rely on government services just to save face, or a liar.

    I will never live that one down.

    I could go on and apologize for the lies I implanted in the left frontal lobe of your brain, including, but not limited to: CNN's ratings are down (they're up); a historic increase in defense spending (your proposed increase is neither historic nor a done deal); and there weren't many protesters outside the rally (there were thousands).

    But what's the point? I have clearly failed you and, along with all media members, am responsible for your divisive rhetoric and mind-boggling unwillingness to step outside yourself for even one fraction of a moment and notice that you sound like an infantile madman.

    I promise, from here on, to pamper you, to coddle your ego, to deflect all blame on others and to never accurately report on you, because that causes you to call me fake news.

    Please accept this apology. I am not at all proud of the things I've made you do.

    And America shouldn't be either.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-rally-media-huppke-20170823-story.htmlColumn

    An apology to Donald Trump, from the 'fake news' media

    Trump covered topics ranging from the border wall to the events in Charlottesville. (Aug. 23, 2017) (Sign up for our free video newsletter here http://bit.ly/2n6VKPR)

    After watching Donald Trump's campaign rally in Phoenix, it became clear that we in the media owe the president a sincere apology.

    Trump used Tuesday night's rally to denounce the "fake news" media for being mean, dishonest, bad, America-hating and an all-around pain in his keister.


    Referring to controversial comments he made in the wake of a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Trump said: "The words were perfect."

    He even quoted his own perfect words, cleverly omitting the part where he blamed the Charlottesville tragedy on "many sides" rather than just on the Nazi side, creating the controversy in the first place.

    After spending 15 or so minutes complaining about the media, he said of the media: "For the most part, all they do is complain. … These are really, really dishonest people and they're bad people and I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."

    Well, I, for one, feel just terrible. It was never my intention, as a journalist, to make the president of the United States feel like he's under some form of scrutiny or that he should be held accountable for the words that fall out of his mouth.

    I wasn't able to reach all my fake news brother and sisters after the rally — the instant-messaging system George Soros has us use was on the blink — but I feel confident most would concur with this formal apology.

    President Trump:

    As a fake news media member in good standing, I would like to sincerely apologize for forcing you to hold a campaign rally eight months into your first term as president.

    I'm sorry that in the course of that rally I forced you to misquote yourself and to devote one reference to Heather Heyer, the woman killed during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, versus an inordinate number of references to the journalists who cover you and your administration.

    I definitely should not have made you fail to mention the 10 American sailors who died or are missing from the Navy destroyer USS John S. McCain after it collided with an oil tanker Monday.

    That was callous of me, and I am deeply sorry.

    I also showed poor judgment in making you seem almost annoyed that you had to properly denounce the various hate groups that marched in Charlottesville chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

    And I definitely shouldn't have had you say this during the rally: "I hit 'em with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis. I got them all in there, Let's see. KKK, we have KKK."

    That almost made it sound like condemning hate groups made you the victim. Please accept my apology for that bit. It was callous and wholly inappropriate.

    While I'm apologizing for Nazi stuff, I'm sorry I entered your brain and forced you to express sympathy for Jeffrey Lord, a commentator who was recently fired from CNN for tweeting "Sieg Heil!" at the head of a liberal watchdog group.

    In retrospect, that was a weird and dreadfully timed thing to have you say, and I hope you will forgive me.

    I regret having you say the following about clean coal: "They're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal, they're gonna clean it."

    Upon further reflection, that statement made it sound like you haven't the foggiest idea what the term "clean coal" means and are quite unintelligent. That is 100 percent my bad. Perhaps with time we can mend the damage my recklessness has done to your reputation.

    On two occasions, I lied to you via telepathy and convinced you that the cameras broadcasting your rally had been shut down because the media were too frightened to share your criticism of CNN and other outlets. That was transparently false, particularly since I watched the rally in its entirety on CNN. I'm sorry I made you lie about that. Twice.

    Rather than have you refer to Republican Sen. John McCain, a war hero currently battling brain cancer, by name, I took the cowardly and childish path of instructing you to mock and taunt him using the phrase, "One vote away." That was a reference to McCain's deciding vote against your health care bill, which would have repealed Obamacare.

    Hearing you screeching, "One vote away!" like an insolent child did not set the presidential tone I hoped it would. It was a terrible decision by me, and I am drowning in my own shame.

    Convincing you to say that you will, if necessary, shut down the government in order to build your preposterous border wall was folly of near-biblical proportions, framing you as either: stubborn and narcissistic to the point of jeopardizing the country's fiscal well-being and doing real harm to Americans who rely on government services just to save face, or a liar.

    I will never live that one down.

    I could go on and apologize for the lies I implanted in the left frontal lobe of your brain, including, but not limited to: CNN's ratings are down (they're up); a historic increase in defense spending (your proposed increase is neither historic nor a done deal); and there weren't many protesters outside the rally (there were thousands).

    But what's the point? I have clearly failed you and, along with all media members, am responsible for your divisive rhetoric and mind-boggling unwillingness to step outside yourself for even one fraction of a moment and notice that you sound like an infantile madman.

    I promise, from here on, to pamper you, to coddle your ego, to deflect all blame on others and to never accurately report on you, because that causes you to call me fake news.

    Please accept this apology. I am not at all proud of the things I've made you do.

    And America shouldn't be either.

    How long before he tweets @rexhupkke "apology accepted?"
     
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-rally-media-huppke-20170823-story.htmlColumn

    An apology to Donald Trump, from the 'fake news' media

    Trump covered topics ranging from the border wall to the events in Charlottesville. (Aug. 23, 2017) (Sign up for our free video newsletter here http://bit.ly/2n6VKPR)

    After watching Donald Trump's campaign rally in Phoenix, it became clear that we in the media owe the president a sincere apology.

    Trump used Tuesday night's rally to denounce the "fake news" media for being mean, dishonest, bad, America-hating and an all-around pain in his keister.


    Referring to controversial comments he made in the wake of a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Trump said: "The words were perfect."

    He even quoted his own perfect words, cleverly omitting the part where he blamed the Charlottesville tragedy on "many sides" rather than just on the Nazi side, creating the controversy in the first place.

    After spending 15 or so minutes complaining about the media, he said of the media: "For the most part, all they do is complain. … These are really, really dishonest people and they're bad people and I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."

    Well, I, for one, feel just terrible. It was never my intention, as a journalist, to make the president of the United States feel like he's under some form of scrutiny or that he should be held accountable for the words that fall out of his mouth.

    I wasn't able to reach all my fake news brother and sisters after the rally — the instant-messaging system George Soros has us use was on the blink — but I feel confident most would concur with this formal apology.

    President Trump:

    As a fake news media member in good standing, I would like to sincerely apologize for forcing you to hold a campaign rally eight months into your first term as president.

    I'm sorry that in the course of that rally I forced you to misquote yourself and to devote one reference to Heather Heyer, the woman killed during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, versus an inordinate number of references to the journalists who cover you and your administration.

    I definitely should not have made you fail to mention the 10 American sailors who died or are missing from the Navy destroyer USS John S. McCain after it collided with an oil tanker Monday.

    That was callous of me, and I am deeply sorry.

    I also showed poor judgment in making you seem almost annoyed that you had to properly denounce the various hate groups that marched in Charlottesville chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

    And I definitely shouldn't have had you say this during the rally: "I hit 'em with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis. I got them all in there, Let's see. KKK, we have KKK."

    That almost made it sound like condemning hate groups made you the victim. Please accept my apology for that bit. It was callous and wholly inappropriate.

    While I'm apologizing for Nazi stuff, I'm sorry I entered your brain and forced you to express sympathy for Jeffrey Lord, a commentator who was recently fired from CNN for tweeting "Sieg Heil!" at the head of a liberal watchdog group.

    In retrospect, that was a weird and dreadfully timed thing to have you say, and I hope you will forgive me.

    I regret having you say the following about clean coal: "They're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal, they're gonna clean it."

    Upon further reflection, that statement made it sound like you haven't the foggiest idea what the term "clean coal" means and are quite unintelligent. That is 100 percent my bad. Perhaps with time we can mend the damage my recklessness has done to your reputation.

    On two occasions, I lied to you via telepathy and convinced you that the cameras broadcasting your rally had been shut down because the media were too frightened to share your criticism of CNN and other outlets. That was transparently false, particularly since I watched the rally in its entirety on CNN. I'm sorry I made you lie about that. Twice.

    Rather than have you refer to Republican Sen. John McCain, a war hero currently battling brain cancer, by name, I took the cowardly and childish path of instructing you to mock and taunt him using the phrase, "One vote away." That was a reference to McCain's deciding vote against your health care bill, which would have repealed Obamacare.

    Hearing you screeching, "One vote away!" like an insolent child did not set the presidential tone I hoped it would. It was a terrible decision by me, and I am drowning in my own shame.

    Convincing you to say that you will, if necessary, shut down the government in order to build your preposterous border wall was folly of near-biblical proportions, framing you as either: stubborn and narcissistic to the point of jeopardizing the country's fiscal well-being and doing real harm to Americans who rely on government services just to save face, or a liar.

    I will never live that one down.

    I could go on and apologize for the lies I implanted in the left frontal lobe of your brain, including, but not limited to: CNN's ratings are down (they're up); a historic increase in defense spending (your proposed increase is neither historic nor a done deal); and there weren't many protesters outside the rally (there were thousands).

    But what's the point? I have clearly failed you and, along with all media members, am responsible for your divisive rhetoric and mind-boggling unwillingness to step outside yourself for even one fraction of a moment and notice that you sound like an infantile madman.

    I promise, from here on, to pamper you, to coddle your ego, to deflect all blame on others and to never accurately report on you, because that causes you to call me fake news.

    Please accept this apology. I am not at all proud of the things I've made you do.

    And America shouldn't be either.

    How long before he tweets @rexhupkke "apology accepted?"
     
    He's too busy spelling "there" wrong in front of the entire world:


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    Boris Mueller's day off?
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    Where's our resident tweet relayer? I can only imagine what I've missed.
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    JC29856 said:
    Boris Mueller's day off?
    No, just quietly going about his business. No need to politicize all the violations of US law. That'll be for others later. For now, he has a job to do.
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    Where's our resident tweet relayer? I can only imagine what I've missed.
    I think he called out sick today, I suspect GMO poisoning
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2482

    President Donald Trump is doing more to divide the country, 62 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say he is doing more to unite the country, his worst score on this question, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. 

    President Trump gets a negative 35 - 59 percent overall job approval rating, down from a negative 39 - 57 percent rating in an August 17 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group disapproves except Republicans, who approve 77 - 14 percent; white voters with no college, approving 52 - 40 percent, and white men, who approve by a narrow 50 - 46 percent. 

    American voters disapprove 60 - 32 percent of Trump's response to the events in Charlottesville. 

    President Trump's decisions and behavior have encouraged white supremacist groups, 59 percent of voters say, as 3 percent say he has discouraged these groups and 35 percent say he has had no impact on them. 

    There is too much prejudice in the nation today, 55 percent of American voters say, while 40 percent say there is too much political correctness, the widest margin for prejudice since the question first was asked in June 2016. 

    Prejudice against minority groups is a "very serious" problem, 50 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say it is "somewhat serious," a new high for these numbers. 

    Since Trump's election, "the level of hatred and prejudice in the U.S. has increased," 65 percent of voters say, while 2 percent say it has decreased and 32 percent say it hasn't changed. 

    "One word - Charlottesville. 

    "Elected on his strength as a deal-maker, but now overwhelmingly considered a divider, President Donald Trump has a big negative job approval rating and low scores on handling racial issues," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll. 

    Voters disapprove 63 - 31 percent, including 56 - 38 percent among white voters, of the way Trump is handling race relations. The president does not care about issues facing minority groups, voters say 60 - 37 percent, including 52 - 45 percent among white voters. 

    A total of 62 percent of American voters say prejudice against Jewish people is a "very serious" or "somewhat serious" problem. 

    Voters oppose 50 - 39 percent removing Confederate statues from public spaces. White voters oppose removal 57 - 33 percent, with black voters supporting removal 67 - 21 percent. Among Hispanic voters, 47 percent support removing statues, with 42 percent opposed. 

    White supremacist groups pose a threat to the U.S., voters say 64 - 34 percent. 

    President Trump does not provide the U.S. with moral leadership, American voters say 62 - 35 percent. Voter opinions of most Trump qualities remain low:
    • 61 - 36 percent that he is not honest;
    • 61 - 37 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
    • 57 - 40 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
    • 68 - 29 percent that he is not level headed;
    • 59 - 38 percent that he is a strong person;
    • 55 - 43 percent that he is intelligent;
    • 63 - 34 percent that he does not share their values.
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-rally-media-huppke-20170823-story.htmlColumn

    An apology to Donald Trump, from the 'fake news' media

    Trump covered topics ranging from the border wall to the events in Charlottesville. (Aug. 23, 2017) (Sign up for our free video newsletter here http://bit.ly/2n6VKPR)

    After watching Donald Trump's campaign rally in Phoenix, it became clear that we in the media owe the president a sincere apology.

    Trump used Tuesday night's rally to denounce the "fake news" media for being mean, dishonest, bad, America-hating and an all-around pain in his keister.


    Referring to controversial comments he made in the wake of a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Trump said: "The words were perfect."

    He even quoted his own perfect words, cleverly omitting the part where he blamed the Charlottesville tragedy on "many sides" rather than just on the Nazi side, creating the controversy in the first place.

    After spending 15 or so minutes complaining about the media, he said of the media: "For the most part, all they do is complain. … These are really, really dishonest people and they're bad people and I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."

    Well, I, for one, feel just terrible. It was never my intention, as a journalist, to make the president of the United States feel like he's under some form of scrutiny or that he should be held accountable for the words that fall out of his mouth.

    I wasn't able to reach all my fake news brother and sisters after the rally — the instant-messaging system George Soros has us use was on the blink — but I feel confident most would concur with this formal apology.

    President Trump:

    As a fake news media member in good standing, I would like to sincerely apologize for forcing you to hold a campaign rally eight months into your first term as president.

    I'm sorry that in the course of that rally I forced you to misquote yourself and to devote one reference to Heather Heyer, the woman killed during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, versus an inordinate number of references to the journalists who cover you and your administration.

    I definitely should not have made you fail to mention the 10 American sailors who died or are missing from the Navy destroyer USS John S. McCain after it collided with an oil tanker Monday.

    That was callous of me, and I am deeply sorry.

    I also showed poor judgment in making you seem almost annoyed that you had to properly denounce the various hate groups that marched in Charlottesville chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

    And I definitely shouldn't have had you say this during the rally: "I hit 'em with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis. I got them all in there, Let's see. KKK, we have KKK."

    That almost made it sound like condemning hate groups made you the victim. Please accept my apology for that bit. It was callous and wholly inappropriate.

    While I'm apologizing for Nazi stuff, I'm sorry I entered your brain and forced you to express sympathy for Jeffrey Lord, a commentator who was recently fired from CNN for tweeting "Sieg Heil!" at the head of a liberal watchdog group.

    In retrospect, that was a weird and dreadfully timed thing to have you say, and I hope you will forgive me.

    I regret having you say the following about clean coal: "They're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal, they're gonna clean it."

    Upon further reflection, that statement made it sound like you haven't the foggiest idea what the term "clean coal" means and are quite unintelligent. That is 100 percent my bad. Perhaps with time we can mend the damage my recklessness has done to your reputation.

    On two occasions, I lied to you via telepathy and convinced you that the cameras broadcasting your rally had been shut down because the media were too frightened to share your criticism of CNN and other outlets. That was transparently false, particularly since I watched the rally in its entirety on CNN. I'm sorry I made you lie about that. Twice.

    Rather than have you refer to Republican Sen. John McCain, a war hero currently battling brain cancer, by name, I took the cowardly and childish path of instructing you to mock and taunt him using the phrase, "One vote away." That was a reference to McCain's deciding vote against your health care bill, which would have repealed Obamacare.

    Hearing you screeching, "One vote away!" like an insolent child did not set the presidential tone I hoped it would. It was a terrible decision by me, and I am drowning in my own shame.

    Convincing you to say that you will, if necessary, shut down the government in order to build your preposterous border wall was folly of near-biblical proportions, framing you as either: stubborn and narcissistic to the point of jeopardizing the country's fiscal well-being and doing real harm to Americans who rely on government services just to save face, or a liar.

    I will never live that one down.

    I could go on and apologize for the lies I implanted in the left frontal lobe of your brain, including, but not limited to: CNN's ratings are down (they're up); a historic increase in defense spending (your proposed increase is neither historic nor a done deal); and there weren't many protesters outside the rally (there were thousands).

    But what's the point? I have clearly failed you and, along with all media members, am responsible for your divisive rhetoric and mind-boggling unwillingness to step outside yourself for even one fraction of a moment and notice that you sound like an infantile madman.

    I promise, from here on, to pamper you, to coddle your ego, to deflect all blame on others and to never accurately report on you, because that causes you to call me fake news.

    Please accept this apology. I am not at all proud of the things I've made you do.

    And America shouldn't be either.

    How long before he tweets @rexhupkke "apology accepted?"
     
    He's too busy spelling "there" wrong in front of the entire world:


    My gawd he's a moron.

    Does anybody remember how the Cletuses were unabashedly flaunting the Trump victory ad nauseum during the first hours of his term?

    Not so much anymore, eh? Well... except for the Cletuses of the extreme variety (you know... the racist or the wholly simple sort).
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    JC29856 said:
    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2482

    President Donald Trump is doing more to divide the country, 62 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say he is doing more to unite the country, his worst score on this question, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. 

    President Trump gets a negative 35 - 59 percent overall job approval rating, down from a negative 39 - 57 percent rating in an August 17 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group disapproves except Republicans, who approve 77 - 14 percent; white voters with no college, approving 52 - 40 percent, and white men, who approve by a narrow 50 - 46 percent. 

    American voters disapprove 60 - 32 percent of Trump's response to the events in Charlottesville. 

    President Trump's decisions and behavior have encouraged white supremacist groups, 59 percent of voters say, as 3 percent say he has discouraged these groups and 35 percent say he has had no impact on them. 

    There is too much prejudice in the nation today, 55 percent of American voters say, while 40 percent say there is too much political correctness, the widest margin for prejudice since the question first was asked in June 2016. 

    Prejudice against minority groups is a "very serious" problem, 50 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say it is "somewhat serious," a new high for these numbers. 

    Since Trump's election, "the level of hatred and prejudice in the U.S. has increased," 65 percent of voters say, while 2 percent say it has decreased and 32 percent say it hasn't changed. 

    "One word - Charlottesville. 

    "Elected on his strength as a deal-maker, but now overwhelmingly considered a divider, President Donald Trump has a big negative job approval rating and low scores on handling racial issues," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll. 

    Voters disapprove 63 - 31 percent, including 56 - 38 percent among white voters, of the way Trump is handling race relations. The president does not care about issues facing minority groups, voters say 60 - 37 percent, including 52 - 45 percent among white voters. 

    A total of 62 percent of American voters say prejudice against Jewish people is a "very serious" or "somewhat serious" problem. 

    Voters oppose 50 - 39 percent removing Confederate statues from public spaces. White voters oppose removal 57 - 33 percent, with black voters supporting removal 67 - 21 percent. Among Hispanic voters, 47 percent support removing statues, with 42 percent opposed. 

    White supremacist groups pose a threat to the U.S., voters say 64 - 34 percent. 

    President Trump does not provide the U.S. with moral leadership, American voters say 62 - 35 percent. Voter opinions of most Trump qualities remain low:
    • 61 - 36 percent that he is not honest;
    • 61 - 37 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
    • 57 - 40 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
    • 68 - 29 percent that he is not level headed;
    • 59 - 38 percent that he is a strong person;
    • 55 - 43 percent that he is intelligent;
    • 63 - 34 percent that he does not share their values.
    so heres the rub...
    This RDD telephone survey was conducted from August 17 – 22, 2017 throughout the nation. Responses are reported for 1,514 self-identified registered voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.1 percentage points, including the design effect. Margins of sampling error for subgroups are available upon request. Surveys are conducted in English or Spanish dependent on respondent preference with live interviewers calling landlines and cell phones.
    All data was collected and tabulated by the Quinnipiac University Poll. PARTY IDENTIFICATION QUESTION WORDING - Generally speaking, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what? REGISTERED VOTERS PARTY IDENTIFICATION Republican 25% Democrat 33 Independent 35 Other/DK/NA 8 METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS Dual frame landline and cell phone samples are generated using Random Digit Dialing procedures by Survey Sampling International (SSI). Both the landline and cellular phone samples are stratified by Census division according to area code. Landline numbers and cell phone numbers are scheduled for 5+ call attempts. When calling landlines interviewers ask to speak with the adult member of the household having the next birthday. Interviews are conducted on cell phones with both cell only and dual owner respondents. The complete land and cell sample is weighted to National Health Interview Survey estimates for [land only/cell only/dual owner] households. Questions are asked as they appear in the release document. If a question is asked of a subset of the sample a descriptive note is added in parenthesis preceding the question. Questions are numbered as asked with additional questions found in successive releases.

    (any chance oftenreading can help explain what this means?)This survey uses statistical weighting procedures to account for deviations in the survey sample from known population characteristics, which helps correct for differential survey participation and random variation in samples. The overall adult sample is weighted to recent Census data using a sample balancing procedure to match the demographic makeup of the population by region, gender, age, education and race.


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    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2482

    President Donald Trump is doing more to divide the country, 62 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say he is doing more to unite the country, his worst score on this question, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. 

    President Trump gets a negative 35 - 59 percent overall job approval rating, down from a negative 39 - 57 percent rating in an August 17 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group disapproves except Republicans, who approve 77 - 14 percent; white voters with no college, approving 52 - 40 percent, and white men, who approve by a narrow 50 - 46 percent. 

    American voters disapprove 60 - 32 percent of Trump's response to the events in Charlottesville. 

    President Trump's decisions and behavior have encouraged white supremacist groups, 59 percent of voters say, as 3 percent say he has discouraged these groups and 35 percent say he has had no impact on them. 

    There is too much prejudice in the nation today, 55 percent of American voters say, while 40 percent say there is too much political correctness, the widest margin for prejudice since the question first was asked in June 2016. 

    Prejudice against minority groups is a "very serious" problem, 50 percent of voters say, while 31 percent say it is "somewhat serious," a new high for these numbers. 

    Since Trump's election, "the level of hatred and prejudice in the U.S. has increased," 65 percent of voters say, while 2 percent say it has decreased and 32 percent say it hasn't changed. 

    "One word - Charlottesville. 

    "Elected on his strength as a deal-maker, but now overwhelmingly considered a divider, President Donald Trump has a big negative job approval rating and low scores on handling racial issues," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll. 

    Voters disapprove 63 - 31 percent, including 56 - 38 percent among white voters, of the way Trump is handling race relations. The president does not care about issues facing minority groups, voters say 60 - 37 percent, including 52 - 45 percent among white voters. 

    A total of 62 percent of American voters say prejudice against Jewish people is a "very serious" or "somewhat serious" problem. 

    Voters oppose 50 - 39 percent removing Confederate statues from public spaces. White voters oppose removal 57 - 33 percent, with black voters supporting removal 67 - 21 percent. Among Hispanic voters, 47 percent support removing statues, with 42 percent opposed. 

    White supremacist groups pose a threat to the U.S., voters say 64 - 34 percent. 

    President Trump does not provide the U.S. with moral leadership, American voters say 62 - 35 percent. Voter opinions of most Trump qualities remain low:
    • 61 - 36 percent that he is not honest;
    • 61 - 37 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
    • 57 - 40 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
    • 68 - 29 percent that he is not level headed;
    • 59 - 38 percent that he is a strong person;
    • 55 - 43 percent that he is intelligent;
    • 63 - 34 percent that he does not share their values.
    so heres the rub...
    This RDD telephone survey was conducted from August 17 – 22, 2017 throughout the nation. Responses are reported for 1,514 self-identified registered voters with a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.1 percentage points, including the design effect. Margins of sampling error for subgroups are available upon request. Surveys are conducted in English or Spanish dependent on respondent preference with live interviewers calling landlines and cell phones.
    All data was collected and tabulated by the Quinnipiac University Poll. PARTY IDENTIFICATION QUESTION WORDING - Generally speaking, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what? REGISTERED VOTERS PARTY IDENTIFICATION Republican 25% Democrat 33 Independent 35 Other/DK/NA 8 METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS Dual frame landline and cell phone samples are generated using Random Digit Dialing procedures by Survey Sampling International (SSI). Both the landline and cellular phone samples are stratified by Census division according to area code. Landline numbers and cell phone numbers are scheduled for 5+ call attempts. When calling landlines interviewers ask to speak with the adult member of the household having the next birthday. Interviews are conducted on cell phones with both cell only and dual owner respondents. The complete land and cell sample is weighted to National Health Interview Survey estimates for [land only/cell only/dual owner] households. Questions are asked as they appear in the release document. If a question is asked of a subset of the sample a descriptive note is added in parenthesis preceding the question. Questions are numbered as asked with additional questions found in successive releases.

    (any chance oftenreading can help explain what this means?)This survey uses statistical weighting procedures to account for deviations in the survey sample from known population characteristics, which helps correct for differential survey participation and random variation in samples. The overall adult sample is weighted to recent Census data using a sample balancing procedure to match the demographic makeup of the population by region, gender, age, education and race.


    I thought polls didn't matter?
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-trump-rally-media-huppke-20170823-story.htmlColumn

    An apology to Donald Trump, from the 'fake news' media

    Trump covered topics ranging from the border wall to the events in Charlottesville. (Aug. 23, 2017) (Sign up for our free video newsletter here http://bit.ly/2n6VKPR)

    After watching Donald Trump's campaign rally in Phoenix, it became clear that we in the media owe the president a sincere apology.

    Trump used Tuesday night's rally to denounce the "fake news" media for being mean, dishonest, bad, America-hating and an all-around pain in his keister.


    Referring to controversial comments he made in the wake of a deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., Trump said: "The words were perfect."

    He even quoted his own perfect words, cleverly omitting the part where he blamed the Charlottesville tragedy on "many sides" rather than just on the Nazi side, creating the controversy in the first place.

    After spending 15 or so minutes complaining about the media, he said of the media: "For the most part, all they do is complain. … These are really, really dishonest people and they're bad people and I really think they don't like our country. I really believe that."

    Well, I, for one, feel just terrible. It was never my intention, as a journalist, to make the president of the United States feel like he's under some form of scrutiny or that he should be held accountable for the words that fall out of his mouth.

    I wasn't able to reach all my fake news brother and sisters after the rally — the instant-messaging system George Soros has us use was on the blink — but I feel confident most would concur with this formal apology.

    President Trump:

    As a fake news media member in good standing, I would like to sincerely apologize for forcing you to hold a campaign rally eight months into your first term as president.

    I'm sorry that in the course of that rally I forced you to misquote yourself and to devote one reference to Heather Heyer, the woman killed during the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, versus an inordinate number of references to the journalists who cover you and your administration.

    I definitely should not have made you fail to mention the 10 American sailors who died or are missing from the Navy destroyer USS John S. McCain after it collided with an oil tanker Monday.

    That was callous of me, and I am deeply sorry.

    I also showed poor judgment in making you seem almost annoyed that you had to properly denounce the various hate groups that marched in Charlottesville chanting, "Jews will not replace us!"

    And I definitely shouldn't have had you say this during the rally: "I hit 'em with neo-Nazi. I hit them with everything. I got the white supremacists, the neo-Nazis. I got them all in there, Let's see. KKK, we have KKK."

    That almost made it sound like condemning hate groups made you the victim. Please accept my apology for that bit. It was callous and wholly inappropriate.

    While I'm apologizing for Nazi stuff, I'm sorry I entered your brain and forced you to express sympathy for Jeffrey Lord, a commentator who was recently fired from CNN for tweeting "Sieg Heil!" at the head of a liberal watchdog group.

    In retrospect, that was a weird and dreadfully timed thing to have you say, and I hope you will forgive me.

    I regret having you say the following about clean coal: "They're going to take out clean coal, meaning they're taking out coal, they're gonna clean it."

    Upon further reflection, that statement made it sound like you haven't the foggiest idea what the term "clean coal" means and are quite unintelligent. That is 100 percent my bad. Perhaps with time we can mend the damage my recklessness has done to your reputation.

    On two occasions, I lied to you via telepathy and convinced you that the cameras broadcasting your rally had been shut down because the media were too frightened to share your criticism of CNN and other outlets. That was transparently false, particularly since I watched the rally in its entirety on CNN. I'm sorry I made you lie about that. Twice.

    Rather than have you refer to Republican Sen. John McCain, a war hero currently battling brain cancer, by name, I took the cowardly and childish path of instructing you to mock and taunt him using the phrase, "One vote away." That was a reference to McCain's deciding vote against your health care bill, which would have repealed Obamacare.

    Hearing you screeching, "One vote away!" like an insolent child did not set the presidential tone I hoped it would. It was a terrible decision by me, and I am drowning in my own shame.

    Convincing you to say that you will, if necessary, shut down the government in order to build your preposterous border wall was folly of near-biblical proportions, framing you as either: stubborn and narcissistic to the point of jeopardizing the country's fiscal well-being and doing real harm to Americans who rely on government services just to save face, or a liar.

    I will never live that one down.

    I could go on and apologize for the lies I implanted in the left frontal lobe of your brain, including, but not limited to: CNN's ratings are down (they're up); a historic increase in defense spending (your proposed increase is neither historic nor a done deal); and there weren't many protesters outside the rally (there were thousands).

    But what's the point? I have clearly failed you and, along with all media members, am responsible for your divisive rhetoric and mind-boggling unwillingness to step outside yourself for even one fraction of a moment and notice that you sound like an infantile madman.

    I promise, from here on, to pamper you, to coddle your ego, to deflect all blame on others and to never accurately report on you, because that causes you to call me fake news.

    Please accept this apology. I am not at all proud of the things I've made you do.

    And America shouldn't be either.

    How long before he tweets @rexhupkke "apology accepted?"
     
    He's too busy spelling "there" wrong in front of the entire world:


    My gawd he's a moron.

    Does anybody remember how the Cletuses were unabashedly flaunting the Trump victory ad nauseum during the first hours of his term?

    Not so much anymore, eh? Well... except for the Cletuses of the extreme variety (you know... the racist or the wholly simple sort).
    Give the cletuses  a break. They aren't collage edubucated 
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