zeitgeist is the pumpkins 3rd grand masterpiece

itsevobaby
itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
edited July 2007 in Other Music
i wish i could inject this album into my veins so it was playing 24/7 through my body
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    Just as I was starting to get back into the Pumpkins for the first time in a decade, Billy goes and pulls that shit on Live Earth plugging the album like some kind of desperate asshole. I still like Zeitgeist though, just not him.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    it was a joke
  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    culot4 wrote:
    Just as I was starting to get back into the Pumpkins for the first time in a decade, Billy goes and pulls that shit on Live Earth plugging the album like some kind of desperate asshole. I still like Zeitgeist though, just not him.

    wow
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    Summerfest 2006

    "Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    culot4 wrote:
    Just as I was starting to get back into the Pumpkins for the first time in a decade, Billy goes and pulls that shit on Live Earth plugging the album like some kind of desperate asshole. I still like Zeitgeist though, just not him.
    dude it was a joke, stop bein a holier then thou fan, u sound like one of the many assholes on here
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    someone please explain what the joke was. To me it looked like a guy who took his band and put them on the biggest stage he could find to coincide with his album, and used a benefit show for his own alterior motives. I watched the concert all day and didn't hear one other musician plug their music. If it was a joke it was a tasteless one.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    culot4 wrote:
    someone please explain what the joke was. To me it looked like a guy who took his band and put them on the biggest stage he could find to coincide with his album, and used a benefit show for his own alterior motives. I watched the concert all day and didn't hear one other musician plug their music. If it was a joke it was a tasteless one.

    How is that a bad thing? Its actually quite smart to plug your album, especially when you havent released a record as a band for 7 years.
    Alpine Valley 2000
    Summerfest 2006

    "Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    How is that a bad thing? Its actually quite smart to plug your album, especially when you havent released a record as a band for 7 years.

    Not when you're supposed to be there to give the impression you care about the enviornment and to support a cause. it just made him look like an egotistical jackass.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    culot4 wrote:
    Not when you're supposed to be there to give the impression you care about the enviornment and to support a cause. it just made him look like an egotistical jackass.

    i heard madonna REALY cares about nature
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    culot4 wrote:
    I watched the concert all day and didn't hear one other musician plug their music.

    Alicia Keys did.
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    And sorry, but Zeitgeist is nowhere near a masterpiece. It has some moments, but it isn't very good overall. At best it is an average album.

    Which, after Zwan and the solo album, is a step up. There's promising stuff on here, but really, the last 6-7 years it seems Billy Corgan has been a lost musician searching for his sound.

    That said, the live versions of Gossamer have been mind-blowing.
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    AndySlash wrote:
    And sorry, but Zeitgeist is nowhere near a masterpiece. It has some moments, but it isn't very good overall. At best it is an average album.

    Which, after Zwan and the solo album, is a step up. There's promising stuff on here, but really, the last 6-7 years it seems Billy Corgan has been a lost musician searching for his sound.

    That said, the live versions of Gossamer have been mind-blowing.

    zetigeist with neon bible and icky thump ...in top 3 albums in 2007...
    easy
  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    well thats like your opinion, man
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    AndySlash wrote:
    well thats like your opinion, man

    true...man
  • DaytimeDilemma
    DaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Zeitgeist is a horrible album. It just isn't good. The production, lyrics, music all suck. Billy is trying too hard. I agress with everyting said in this allmusic.com review: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jcfoxzu5ldde

    I'm so happy that Pearl Jam is a real band and they all contribute to songs, and Eddie isn't a dictator like Corgan.


    Zeitgeist just falls flat and lacks the real feel of a Pumpkins album. If you call it a masterpiece, there is something wrong with you and you probably also listen to Hinder and Blue October. I'm a huge Pumpkins fans and really wanted to like the album but I don't. I already ordered the iTunes version, but if I hadn't I wouldn't have bought it after the leak.



    Also in terms of best of 07...Zeitgeist doesn't have ANYTHING on QOTSA's Era Vulgaris...the BEST rock album of 07 by FAR.
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    DaytimeDilemma wrote:
    Zeitgeist is a horrible album. It just isn't good. The production, lyrics, music all suck. Billy is trying too hard. I agress with everyting said in this allmusic.com review: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jcfoxzu5ldde

    I'm so happy that Pearl Jam is a real band and they all contribute to songs, and Eddie isn't a dictator like Corgan.


    Zeitgeist just falls flat and lacks the real feel of a Pumpkins album. If you call it a masterpiece, there is something wrong with you and you probably also listen to Hinder and Blue October. I'm a huge Pumpkins fans and really wanted to like the album but I don't. I already ordered the iTunes version, but if I hadn't I wouldn't have bought it after the leak.



    Also in terms of best of 07...Zeitgeist doesn't have ANYTHING on QOTSA's Era Vulgaris...the BEST rock album of 07 by FAR.

    people who writte reviews are guys that were to bad
    to make it as musicians...and by the way...in in italia zeitgeist got 8/10, in slovenia 8,5/10 in croatia 9/10...
    so i guess...only uk press doesnt like the album...
    unncut...4/5 stars...sun...4/5 stars...daily mirror...4/5 stars...
    so...i guess...the rest od the world likes it...
    mtv germanys album of the month...
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Considering it's coming out this Tuesday, I don't see the problem with mentioning it.

    It's not like it's going to be out in a month or came out three months ago. It's in a few days. It seems appropriate to mention it!
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  • DaytimeDilemma
    DaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    jsaso wrote:
    people who writte reviews are guys that were to bad
    to make it as musicians...and by the way...in in italia zeitgeist got 8/10, in slovenia 8,5/10 in croatia 9/10...
    so i guess...only uk press doesnt like the album...
    unncut...4/5 stars...sun...4/5 stars...daily mirror...4/5 stars...
    so...i guess...the rest od the world likes it...
    mtv germanys album of the month...



    Haha...right. I'm a music writer and a musician, so you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. First you say critics aren't relevent and then you spout off reviews from other countries. I don't care. I think Zeitgeist sucks. I'm being honest and not buying into the whole SP fanboy thing. It's just not a good album.
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    justam wrote:
    Considering it's coming out this Tuesday, I don't see the problem with mentioning it.

    It's not like it's going to be out in a month or came out three months ago. It's in a few days. It seems appropriate to mention it!

    yeah i agree...they are making to much of a deal...it was just a stupid joke...
    by the way...anybody from new york?
    there is a big zeppelin with a zeitgeist cover and it is flying around town...
    i have seen it ... just was picking up a donout at the 33rd and mappeles crossing and was suprised by that zeppelin
  • jsaso
    jsaso Posts: 179
    DaytimeDilemma wrote:
    Haha...right. I'm a music writer and a musician, so you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. First you say critics aren't relevent and then you spout off reviews from other countries. I don't care. I think Zeitgeist sucks. I'm being honest and not buying into the whole SP fanboy thing. It's just not a good album.

    well if you make a record that is as good as zeitgeist le me know...
    ...musician :) ... i bet you could do the united states drumm bit in a flash...
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    DaytimeDilemma wrote:

    I'm so happy that Pearl Jam is a real band and they all contribute to songs, and Eddie isn't a dictator like Corgan.

    thats so funny and couldnt be further from the truth, ed has always been a dicator of some sorts.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

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