Okay fine. Smashing Pumpkinds weren't the only ones plugging their albums. It still doesn't make it right. I would expect that kind of thing from an R&B artist like Alicia Keyes or a hack like Kelly Clarkson who had to cancel her tour because nobody bought any tickets. Bon Jovi....well they're Bon Jovi. Is Billy really all that hard up for a commercial success. If people liked his set they could have found out for themselves where to get the music instead of the singer selling his shit on an inappropriate platform.
Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
I'm so happy that Pearl Jam is a real band and they all contribute to songs, and Eddie isn't a dictator like Corgan.
Zeitgeist just falls flat and lacks the real feel of a Pumpkins album. If you call it a masterpiece, there is something wrong with you and you probably also listen to Hinder and Blue October. I'm a huge Pumpkins fans and really wanted to like the album but I don't. I already ordered the iTunes version, but if I hadn't I wouldn't have bought it after the leak.
Also in terms of best of 07...Zeitgeist doesn't have ANYTHING on QOTSA's Era Vulgaris...the BEST rock album of 07 by FAR.
Queens of the Stone Age...more like Queens of the Boner Age. Huh huh, boner. Huh huh.
Beavis: All my friends are brown and red? What does that mean?
Butthead: It means that his friends are like turds and that they like suck.
Beavis: Heh heh. Oh yeah. Yeah! Get those spoons out of my face before I shove them up your butt!
Butthead: Huh huh.
he said please explain to me how it was a joke... i guess he didnt hear when billy corgan laughed immediately after saying "i know you all will go out tuesday and buy the new album" and then said "just kiddin".
nd i dont care wat critics say, im gonna buy zeitgeist because i like the pumpkins and i will decide for myself it is as good as mellon collie or siamese dream
he said please explain to me how it was a joke... i guess he didnt hear when billy corgan laughed immediately after saying "i know you all will go out tuesday and buy the new album" and then said "just kiddin".
nd i dont care wat critics say, im gonna buy zeitgeist because i like the pumpkins and i will decide for myself it is as good as mellon collie or siamese dream
Why don't you just quote me directly instead of this all 'he' stuff. If I walk up to my boss and call him a fucking douchebag but say just kidding, I still called him a fucking douchebag.
Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Why don't you just quote me directly instead of this all 'he' stuff. If I walk up to my boss and call him a fucking douchebag but say just kidding, I still called him a fucking douchebag.
your kidding right, what are we in the 3rd grade, grow up
no...but...this is getting absurd...the man said..."we have a new album called zeitgeist comming out in tuesday, i know you are all gonna buy it, and not illegaly downloaded from the net, like you did all our other albums...just kidding..."
wau...lets make a big deal cause of that?
that guy is on this board is showing needless dissrespect...i would like
to see him be a highlight of live earth...
call me when you do that...
no...but...this is getting absurd...the man said..."we have a new album called zeitgeist comming out in tuesday, i know you are all gonna buy it, and not illegaly downloaded from the net, like you did all our other albums...just kidding..."
wau...lets make a big deal cause of that?
that guy is on this board is showing needless dissrespect...i would like
to see him be a highlight of live earth...
call me when you do that...
dude relax, its called a message board of course people are gonna disrespect each other. what are you 14 or something.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
no i am 80 years old. why do you care? well if you would read the
rules of this board you would find out that disrespect means a ban...
haha, u think anyone ever reads those.i asked you what your age was cause your acting like a 14 year old child and what do i get a disrespectfull response. IP BAN DELETE THREAD :rolleyes:
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
haha, u think anyone ever reads those.i asked you what your age was cause your acting like a 14 year old child and what do i get a disrespectfull response. IP BAN DELETE THREAD :rolleyes:
LMAO
Alpine Valley 2000
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
no...but...this is getting absurd...the man said..."we have a new album called zeitgeist comming out in tuesday, i know you are all gonna buy it, and not illegaly downloaded from the net, like you did all our other albums...just kidding..."
wau...lets make a big deal cause of that?
that guy is on this board is showing needless dissrespect...i would like
to see him be a highlight of live earth...
call me when you do that...
he made pretty much the same joke at the show i was at in asheville
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
now he wont talk to me cause my location is smoking a joint in a tree. oh well, not like he said anything of value to say anyways. and jsaso if you really are 80, you might wanna lay off the viagra i think its gone to the wrong head
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Not a Pumpkins fan; checked it out becuase I've been hearing a lot of things about them. Really, really bad. I love the drumming but the rest is just a mess.
Although the older stuff that I'm checking out sounds cool so maybe I'll appreciate it more later. But I doubt it.
"well if you make a record that is as good as zeitgeist le me know...
...musician ... i bet you could do the united states drumm bit in a flash..."
Oh man, people really need to stop saying this in reply to a bad review. I can't cook food, so dammit, I guess I can't eat anymore.
I like it, not as much as the first four records (yes I'm counting Adore). Billy's vocals are terribly mixed on this disc. Masterpiece....nah. But he's gotta (re)start somewhere right?
Why don't you just quote me directly instead of this all 'he' stuff. If I walk up to my boss and call him a fucking douchebag but say just kidding, I still called him a fucking douchebag.
Now that the thread is actually back on topic, would the person who said he/she was a pumpkins fan but really didn't like the album explain why? I'm just curious. I really enjoy all of their albums - even Machina I AND Machina II. I've only heard snippets of most of the songs, but I liked most of what I heard and was looking forward to picking this up. I would like to hear from other pumpkins fans who don't like it. Please tell me what you don't like about it, more than just "it sucks".
honestly, it really is a great album...i can't seem to stop listening to it. i've had it for a week now and it's only getting better. in addition, the b-sides that have surfaced (sorry, no gossamer) are amazing too. the title track and stellar are more than worthy of being on the album.
i can confidently say it's the best album billy has created since adore (which was brilliant, you know).
they say god makes problems just to see what you can stand ~ elliott smith
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Queens of the Stone Age...more like Queens of the Boner Age. Huh huh, boner. Huh huh.
Butthead: It means that his friends are like turds and that they like suck.
Beavis: Heh heh. Oh yeah. Yeah! Get those spoons out of my face before I shove them up your butt!
Butthead: Huh huh.
united states, tarantula, and doomsday clock are solid
nd i dont care wat critics say, im gonna buy zeitgeist because i like the pumpkins and i will decide for myself it is as good as mellon collie or siamese dream
Why don't you just quote me directly instead of this all 'he' stuff. If I walk up to my boss and call him a fucking douchebag but say just kidding, I still called him a fucking douchebag.
IP BAN, delete thread
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
no...but...this is getting absurd...the man said..."we have a new album called zeitgeist comming out in tuesday, i know you are all gonna buy it, and not illegaly downloaded from the net, like you did all our other albums...just kidding..."
wau...lets make a big deal cause of that?
that guy is on this board is showing needless dissrespect...i would like
to see him be a highlight of live earth...
call me when you do that...
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
no i am 80 years old. why do you care? well if you would read the
rules of this board you would find out that disrespect means a ban...
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i see your location is ...smoking a joint in a tree???
so i am gonna end this little talk
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
LMAO
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
he made pretty much the same joke at the show i was at in asheville
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
"She fell funny"
"Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
I haven't got my copy yet, and I'm interested to hear people's opinions (on the album, not on Billy!)
it is great..very diverse...from grunge to electronica...
Although the older stuff that I'm checking out sounds cool so maybe I'll appreciate it more later. But I doubt it.
"well if you make a record that is as good as zeitgeist le me know...
...musician ... i bet you could do the united states drumm bit in a flash..."
Oh man, people really need to stop saying this in reply to a bad review. I can't cook food, so dammit, I guess I can't eat anymore.
It is too bad Gossamer is not on the album that song is massive.
I am looking forward to hearing the album tonight/tomorrow whenever i get the itunes presale.
Bleeding the Orchid sounded really good live. As did United States, doomsday clock, Tarantula, and starz. I did not think Neverlost was bad.
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
Ohana Festival 24 x2
Madison Square Garden 6/25/08
umm... what?
Gossamer does not exist it has only been played live never recorded in studio.
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
Ohana Festival 24 x2
oh, & a big thanks to everyone who bought the thread back to a civilised zeitgeist discussion
See These Bones
honestly, it really is a great album...i can't seem to stop listening to it. i've had it for a week now and it's only getting better. in addition, the b-sides that have surfaced (sorry, no gossamer) are amazing too. the title track and stellar are more than worthy of being on the album.
i can confidently say it's the best album billy has created since adore (which was brilliant, you know).