Which band has fallen the most in the last fifteen years?

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  • Jack Bauer
    Jack Bauer Posts: 28
    reversedarwinism wrote:
    Like someone said, I think this song may have a little poetry to the lyrics. I don't know what its about, but lyrics aren't what I mean by matured. I just keep finding myself defending this band, because in the real world (outside this board) RHCP are widely loved for their last three albums. Its the one band I know everyone at work, in my family, amongst my friends will enjoy without exception. All of my music loving friends love RHCP. May be its that popularity that some don't like here. One of my friends recently made a random compilation off limewire, whats on it? old PJ, SG hit, 2 RH songs, SP and more RHCP than anything. And all that RHCP is from the last 3 albums. Yet here they don't sound like they did in 93, and people think they've "fallen" - in the real world yall are in the minority. The "improvement" and "maturity" is obvious to anyone that actually has all the albums.

    And thats the thing, based off the negative comments here, I'd bet that yall don't have the albums or have been really exposed to the whole albums. Especially if you're saying the songs sound the same, I know you're talking out your ass. You just heard the radio songs and came to the conclusion you already wanted to make. Sorry that the last PJ sucked and RHCP doesn't sound like porn music anymore, but you guys are hating on one of the best bands around today.

    Totally agree with you, how can someone say the songs all sound the same? They should listen to Stadium Arcadium all the way through, and then try and say the same thing. The songs on the second disc sound completely different from each other.
  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,197
    Creed ... easily.
  • reversedarwinism
    reversedarwinism Posts: 1,151
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Since when does popularity necessarily coincide with good music?

    It usually doesn't, but there are two factors that add to that: 1) I can tell its good. 2) people that I know that like similar music or some of the same bands that I consider to be better than others. That plus all of people who's preferences I don't know. I can tell its good without anyone else's opinion: I'm just surprised to hear bashing here when I never hear it anywhere else.
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  • reversedarwinism
    reversedarwinism Posts: 1,151
    Odin wrote:
    In the last ten years, Goo Goo Dolls.

    In the last fifteen years, Aerosmith. They haven't been the same since Get A Grip.

    Aerosmith - agreed, more than anyother I can think of.
    bombs, dropping down, please forgive our hometown
  • yellowled24
    yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    bobasfeet wrote:
    Creed ... easily.
    were they ever good to start with??
    "....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    korn kinda went downhill
  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,197
    yellowled24 wrote:
    were they ever good to start with??


    I was talking on a popular level. To answer your question...NO
  • Matty Boy
    Matty Boy Posts: 421
    Guns N' Roses-I don't know if they've fallen or been abducted by aliens.
  • yellowled24
    yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    bobasfeet wrote:
    I was talking on a popular level. To answer your question...NO
    ;) i know...its all good. None of their shit gets played anymore...they mustve clicked onto the fact that Scott Stapp was a try hard Ed
    "....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
  • searchlightsoul
    searchlightsoul Posts: 583
    reversedarwinism wrote:
    And thats the thing, based off the negative comments here, I'd bet that yall don't have the albums or have been really exposed to the whole albums. Especially if you're saying the songs sound the same, I know you're talking out your ass. You just heard the radio songs and came to the conclusion you already wanted to make.

    It shouldn't be neccessary to buy albums where the singles suck on the off chance that the B-sides will change your mind about a band. Have you honestly ever bought an album where you hated all the A-sides but absolutely loved the B-sides? Because it has yet to happen to me.

    In my experience crap A-sides = worse B-sides which means I save money and time.
  • thecory
    thecory Posts: 290
    nirvana
  • Johnny_N
    Johnny_N Posts: 60
    lol
  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    searchlightsoul wrote:
    It shouldn't be neccessary to buy albums where the singles suck on the off chance that the B-sides will change your mind about a band. Have you honestly ever bought an album where you hated all the A-sides but absolutely loved the B-sides? Because it has yet to happen to me.

    In my experience crap A-sides = worse B-sides which means I save money and time.
    Personally, I've bought many albums that I much preferred the "rest of" as compared to the supposed "best of" that we are more likely to hear.
    At time I am as guilty of it as anybody else, but I believe it is really dumb to judge a group solely based on what you might hear on the radio or see on VH1. There's no way to judge a band's worth and talent based on two or three songs....not completely anyway.
    And no, RHCP's songs do not all sound the same...I would also suggest you listen
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    direwolf74 wrote:
    You didn't like Automatic for the People? I still think that record is the best thing they ever recorded. After that, here's how I view their later albums:

    Monster: decent, but not great.
    New Adventures in Hi-Fi: better than Monster.
    Up: never liked it.
    Reveal: bored me to tears.
    Around the Sun: see Reveal.
    Accelerate: amazing album and a glorious return to form. By far their best album since Automatic for the People.

    But that's just me.

    AFP is a good record, but it makes me want to jump off a bridge after listening to it. Too depressing for me. Your ratings support my feelings- very medicore all the way around. I havent heard the new one yet, but Im not eager to do so.
    As someone who had reckoning on IRS vinyl and first saw them in 1983, it was over once I heard stand and happy shiny people. Tough getting me back.

    Great name by the way fennario.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    pipedreams wrote:
    I agree although New Adventures was pretty good and neither band is nowhere near as good as back in the day live. Fables and Life's Rich Pageant were unbelievable shows. Hard to compare recent U2 tours with the Joshua Tree tour. Just my 2 cents.

    I started seeing REM on the reckoning tour, and I think they do still bring it live, its just that I do not like any of the later catalog.

    U2, same, they still puit on a great live show, but I have not like the records since achtung
  • Schoki
    Schoki Posts: 5,072
    Moby
    REM
    Oasis
    U2
    Stones
    Korn
    Smashing Pumpkins
  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    U2
    RHCP
    Metallica
    2006: Antwerp, Paris
    2007: Copenhagen, Werchter
    2009: Rotterdam, London
    2010: MSG, Arras, Werchter
    2012: Amsterdam, Prague, Berlin
    2014: Amsterdam, Stockholm
  • wcsmith
    wcsmith Posts: 165
    Seeing as this is entirely subjective (like most questions requiring critical comment), I'll throw my hat in the ring:

    I will stand by the high quality of Avacado and I also disagree that U2 has fallen off. The U2 backlash has a lot to do (imho) with their longevity and Bono's over-exposure and tendency to insure that everybody knows what he thinks about everything. I can understand how they might bug some people, but that does not detract from the quality of their musical output. Besides, when compared with 95% of what's considered 'popular' today, U2 stands pretty tall. And their live show is astounding...

    I'll agree with the general sentiment about Metallica. I never got into the Load/Re-Load albums and I made an earnest effort to get into St. Anger, but it just didn't cut it for me. No solos? Seriously?

    A couple of years ago, I would have put the Black Crowes up near the top, but their newest album put that to rest. Ditto for the Counting Crows.

    Live is right up there with Metallica...I also agree about Weezer. A couple of good songs surrounded by generic throwaways. DMB is also another band that has completely lost my interest.

    And Tool is close to losing my interest after 10,000 Days...
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  • PJ-Sin
    PJ-Sin Posts: 348
    I just thought of another one, STP. The first two albums were great but after that it was just lame. I guess some people need to be on drugs to sing well. Scott doesnt even sound that good with Velvet Revolver either...
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  • Brez
    Brez Posts: 570
    I think the perfect answer for this is Weezer, with Metallica being a close second.

    Yeah I just repeated what the OP said... dammit.
    And before his first step... He's off again...

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