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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    But I guess it is shocker that politicians lie. Get real. It has been happening for decades. Politicians get elected on false promises. They line their pockets and if it is mutually beneficial they may stay in office. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,304
    edited February 25
    Get_Right said:
    But I guess it is shocker that politicians lie. Get real. It has been happening for decades. Politicians get elected on false promises. They line their pockets and if it is mutually beneficial they may stay in office. 
    [rudeness removed by admin]
    you think the previous level of dishonesty by politicians across the board is anywhere close to the current shit mouthed fuck stain in chief?
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    edited February 25
    static111 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But I guess it is shocker that politicians lie. Get real. It has been happening for decades. Politicians get elected on false promises. They line their pockets and if it is mutually beneficial they may stay in office. 
    [rudeness removed by admin]
    you think the previous level of dishonesty by politicians across the board is anywhere close to the current shit mouthed fuck stain in chief?
    No actually I just think you see it more. It has always been dishonest. For decades. Trump is an easy target. But the same shit has been going on for decades. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,347
    edited February 25
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.

    All anyone has to do is read a transcript. It's not hard. Nobody should give any TV ratings to anything he does IMO, since they mean so much to him. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,809
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said: oh
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.
    Why would I watch him spew bullshit after bullshit! You seem to think he has become some kind of presidential speaker, I gave him a chance during his 1st term and watched his SOTU speech back then and guess what nothing has changed he’s still a used car salesman no offense to any car salesman here but that’s all he is 
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    PJ_Soul said:
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.

    All anyone has to do is read a transcript. It's not hard. Nobody should give any TV ratings to anything he does IMO, since they mean so much to him. 

    I might say watching the speech is more important. But if you actually read the entire transcript that works.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 23,285
    edited February 25
    Get_Right said:
    static111 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But I guess it is shocker that politicians lie. Get real. It has been happening for decades. Politicians get elected on false promises. They line their pockets and if it is mutually beneficial they may stay in office. 
    [rudeness removed by admin]
    you think the previous level of dishonesty by politicians across the board is anywhere close to the current shit mouthed fuck stain in chief?
    No actually I just think you see it more. It has always been dishonest. For decades. Trump is an easy target. But the same shit has been going on for decades. 
    The same shit like having foreign countries pay you with Crypto? No man....
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,347
    edited February 25
    Get_Right said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.

    All anyone has to do is read a transcript. It's not hard. Nobody should give any TV ratings to anything he does IMO, since they mean so much to him. 

    I might say watching the speech is more important. But if you actually read the entire transcript that works.

    I really don't understand your perspective on this tyrant at all. You keep acting like he still represents something legitimate and something at least partially reasonable, which he doesn't. You are sincerely just telling everyone to act more normal in the face of a corrupt, fascist, racist, sexist piece of shit, and suggesting that if we don't we don't have a leg to stand on. It's bizarre. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,896
    edited February 25
    Gern Blansten said:
    Get_Right said:
    static111 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But I guess it is shocker that politicians lie. Get real. It has been happening for decades. Politicians get elected on false promises. They line their pockets and if it is mutually beneficial they may stay in office. 
    [rudeness removed by admin]
    you think the previous level of dishonesty by politicians across the board is anywhere close to the current shit mouthed fuck stain in chief?
    No actually I just think you see it more. It has always been dishonest. For decades. Trump is an easy target. But the same shit has been going on for decades. 
    The same shit like having foreign countries pay you with Crypto? No man....


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    Or giving you a fully outfitted jet? Or your son-in-law $2B to play with? Or branding and profiting on your name on all sorts of crap? Maybe getting “rights” to build resorts in nations you have tariffs being imposed upon? You mean like that? Been going on for decades, same-same.

    Not a serious poster.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,813
    edited February 25
    I don't think anyone here is pretending there hasn't been dishonesty from past administrations nor that there have not been bad choices by them; all of them. 

    We all know what Clinton was (as smart, on-the-ball guy who was an absolute pig and sexual deviant) and you'll occasionally run across one of us referring to #44 as Obomber.  

    But this isn't a pass/fail test. Even if you think they've all failed, nobody has sold out his country and his people like Trump. That's the difference. If he lives long enough, he could legitimately start a third term. He's using the federal government to quiet descent. 

    "They're all bad" may be the truth, but it's not even close to the whole truth.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,553
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.
    this is a really bad take on your part.

    i can criticize whatever i want with the knowledge that i have. as far as my credibility goes, i don't care about that. 

    i participate in the process. but i will not watch that fat orange fuck lie to my face. you can do that if you want to. but not me.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,553
    PJ_Soul said:
    Get_Right said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.

    All anyone has to do is read a transcript. It's not hard. Nobody should give any TV ratings to anything he does IMO, since they mean so much to him. 

    I might say watching the speech is more important. But if you actually read the entire transcript that works.

    I really don't understand your perspective on this tyrant at all. You keep acting like he still represents something legitimate and at least partially reasonable, which he doesn't. You are sincerely just telling everyone to act more normal in the face of a corrupt, fascist, racist, sexist piece of shit, and suggesting that if we don't we don't have a leg to stand on. It's bizarre. 
    exactly.

    at least now we know what get_right would have done during the rise of hitler. just sit there and watch the speeches and give him a chance.

    no thank you.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,553
    "that saddam guy seems ok. let's hear him out."

    -dead iraqis and kuwaitis
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    I have said it before and will say it again. The comparisons to Hitler have no basis and are an insult. There are no mass murders, there are no SS death squads. Get a grip. If you cannot afford the time to listen, then you have no right to judge. Do not compare our President to foreign leaders. They live in different places. Again, I do not support what is happening, but it is just another political cycle.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,989
    Get_Right said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Get_Right said:
    But why would you not watch? That is the problem. Just hate the man but not hear what he has to say? It may be all rhetoric and political BS but why not watch and listen? Maybe 20% of what he says is true.
    because most of us have better things to do with out finite time than to sit there and be lied to for two hours.

    you can spend your time like that, but fuck no i will not.

    But if you do not watch, then you should not criticize. Because that means you are relying on media. Which is biased. You are pre-judging without actually listening. So that weakens your credibility with any criticism you might have. Participate in the process instead of throwing blanket opinions.
    you've got to be kidding me. this guy spouts the same lies each and every time he's in front of the microphone. It's all the same rally to him. SOTU or should I say STFU is a waste of anyone's time. We are so far beyond "you can't criticize if you don't listen" with this guy. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,989
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and will say it again. The comparisons to Hitler have no basis and are an insult. There are no mass murders, there are no SS death squads. Get a grip. If you cannot afford the time to listen, then you have no right to judge. Do not compare our President to foreign leaders. They live in different places. Again, I do not support what is happening, but it is just another political cycle.  
    no, it isn't. 

    Just because you are offended doesn't make you right. There have been many, many jewish historians that agree what trump is doing warrants the comparisons to what hitler did in the beginning. Again, no one is saying there has been mass genocide. No one has been saying there have been death camps. We're saying the fascist playbook is the same. The end result doesn't have to be for the comparisons to be valid. 
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and will say it again. The comparisons to Hitler have no basis and are an insult. There are no mass murders, there are no SS death squads. Get a grip. If you cannot afford the time to listen, then you have no right to judge. Do not compare our President to foreign leaders. They live in different places. Again, I do not support what is happening, but it is just another political cycle.  
    no, it isn't. 

    Just because you are offended doesn't make you right. There have been many, many jewish historians that agree what trump is doing warrants the comparisons to what hitler did in the beginning. Again, no one is saying there has been mass genocide. No one has been saying there have been death camps. We're saying the fascist playbook is the same. The end result doesn't have to be for the comparisons to be valid. 
    Yes it does. That is a huge difference.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 23,285
    Get_Right said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and will say it again. The comparisons to Hitler have no basis and are an insult. There are no mass murders, there are no SS death squads. Get a grip. If you cannot afford the time to listen, then you have no right to judge. Do not compare our President to foreign leaders. They live in different places. Again, I do not support what is happening, but it is just another political cycle.  
    no, it isn't. 

    Just because you are offended doesn't make you right. There have been many, many jewish historians that agree what trump is doing warrants the comparisons to what hitler did in the beginning. Again, no one is saying there has been mass genocide. No one has been saying there have been death camps. We're saying the fascist playbook is the same. The end result doesn't have to be for the comparisons to be valid. 
    Yes it does. That is a huge difference.
    If it wasn't for the internet the detention centers would be much worse.

    He even called immigrants filthy animals last night. Get with the program man.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,619
    Gern Blansten said:
    Get_Right said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Get_Right said:
    I have said it before and will say it again. The comparisons to Hitler have no basis and are an insult. There are no mass murders, there are no SS death squads. Get a grip. If you cannot afford the time to listen, then you have no right to judge. Do not compare our President to foreign leaders. They live in different places. Again, I do not support what is happening, but it is just another political cycle.  
    no, it isn't. 

    Just because you are offended doesn't make you right. There have been many, many jewish historians that agree what trump is doing warrants the comparisons to what hitler did in the beginning. Again, no one is saying there has been mass genocide. No one has been saying there have been death camps. We're saying the fascist playbook is the same. The end result doesn't have to be for the comparisons to be valid. 
    Yes it does. That is a huge difference.
    If it wasn't for the internet the detention centers would be much worse.

    He even called immigrants filthy animals last night. Get with the program man.
    Just words. Not guns and death. No Comparison.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,989
    Imagine still being in the "just let him govern" stage. 
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