Trump/Admin Policies

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

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Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
O fucking K! For the record, I debate history and politics and current events the same in person as I do behind the keyboard. You want to have reasoned debate? I’ll have reasoned debate. But be prepared to articulate your argument and back it up. You, general you but could be you, not saying it is you, but you know, want to make nonsense arguments and false analogies, spread misinformation and pretend you’re above the fray and/or go personal? I’m going to call you out. You want to chirp? I’ll chirp back. In front of you or from behind a keyboard. Your “no consequences” sounds like a threat?
Feel free to PM me, like you have in the past, or put me on ignore. Choice is yours but I won’t stop responding to posts of yours, or anyone else’s, on this forum. You won’t cancel me in that way.
O fucking K, big guy?

Nobody asked you to stop responding. I told you don’t mention my name indirectly. You understand the different between the two ? Little boy?

No consequences refers to the fact that you’re still allowed to post here. Theres no point threatening someone like you.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Just giving credit where credit is due and, I don’t believe there’s a forum rule regarding mentioning a forum poster by their forum name or a portion thereof in posts.

If I’m Little Boy, you must be Fat Man, eh? WWII reference for those who think I’m going personal. Must be snowing somewhere?

No consequence. So you’ll continue to taunt and instigate until the next phrase you latch on to. On a section of a rock bands forum to an audience of about 7 people. Because you “can” and “do”.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

“Taunt and instigate”? Care to quote a post of mine where I “taunt” and “instigate “?

I’ll wait for the “not wasting my time on the likes of you” response.

Cute use of the “because they ‘can’ and ‘do’.” I like it. Remind us again of the context of my “taunt” and “instigate” use of “because they ‘can’ and ‘do’”. I want to see if you understand it.

Get_Right · February 24

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

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Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'm constantly blown away that most of the admin is made up of a bunch of weenies who just do stuff because they want to be liked and popular by dweebs on the internet who like energy drinks and anime porn.

Washington has been that way for a long time. It is just more obvious now.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Sure. Both sides are the same. It’s always been like this. Nothing to see here nor be concerned about. Just same old-same old. Good fucking lord.

If you need any assistance with realizing how fucked up things are and how wrong this take is, I suggest you head on over to the Letter From An American thread. I’m sure denial is a river in Egypt, eh?

Things have been fucked up for a long time. Nothing in Washington surprises me. It has been corrupt for decades. It is a dirty business. Even the good ones line their pockets. Now we have a slumlord president that knows he can do what he wants and that he will answer to the courts years down the road. SCOTUS ruling? Yeah I will just find another statute to tax businesses. 10% on all imports from all countries. Four days after the SCOTUS ruling. He had this in the hopper. There is no denial. Pretend that government is altruistic. It is not.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Care to point out the fucked-uppedness, level of corruption that equals what we see now and name the “good ones” who line their pockets? What previous administration violated the constitution to this extent or appointed incompetence to this level?

Clinton. Considered a good politician. And a very, very smart man. I have met him several times and have never met another man with the amount of knowledge he has. But he was impeached. Left office with millions he did not have before. Blow jobs in the oval office. And his carpetbagger wife taking in more NY donations. Obama. Got nothing done. He was elected because he was a good speaker. Politicians take care of donors, friends and special interests. Federalist paper No. 10 has come to life. Politicians are a joke and it is all a facade. James Madison got it right.

I don't know that I'd consider Clinton's misgivings on par with the current level of corruption. And I've always said he should have been removed.

And I sure as hell don't consider "getting nothing done" on par with the current kleptocracy / budding dictatorship.

Lipstick on a pig. Different but the same abuse of power. And like it or not, Trump is getting things done although it does skirt the boundaries of legality. Even if you hate everything he is doing. Calling it objectively. He set objectives and is doing something about it. And to be clear, I do not agree with his tactics. I am not a Trump supporter, but I do have some appreciation for a President that is taking action and not waiting around for congress.

A successful career-burglar gets stuff done too. If you think Obama being ineffective is corrupt on par with the billions the Trumps have made over the first two terms, using the FCC to squash descent, ignoring subpoenas, ignoring court rulings, demanding voting rolls to federalize elections, then I guess we're not really at a starting point to even discuss this.

All I said was at least he is doing something. I never said Obama was corrupt. In fact he had no idea how Washington works. First term Senator with no clue. Maybe Chicago taught him some things, but not enough for DC.

so obama was POTUS for 8 years and he didn't have a clue, but "I worked in DC" so you know it all? that's rich.

we're not arguing HOW it currently is in Washington, we're arguing that's how it shouldn't be. Those are two different things. We understand reality. We just don't think getting things done for the sake of getting things done, no matter what those things are, makes a good president.

Actually he is rocking the boat and disrupting the old school way of things taking forever. He learned from his first go around and is now being aggressive. Especially with trade and immigration policies. And taking over Venezuela. He has specific objectives. Mostly around making money.

Never said I know it all, I do not. But I do know that the majority of the US population has no clue about how things really work in Washington or even in state government. And that they do not vote but like to complain. I am no expert but have worked with politicians and lobbyists and have directly seen how favors get traded and the average person holds the bag.

HughFreakingDillon · February 24

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

OnWis97 · February 24

Hiter, Charles Manson, Al Capone, Nickelback, Tim McVeigh, Mussolini, and Genghis Kahn all got things done. If the administration ever goes door-to-door killing/jailing all those that don't pass loyalty tests, as terrible as it'll be, it'll be getting something done.

Gern Blansten · February 24

cincybearcat said:

Lots of KPDS here or just fun haters….hmmm which one is it…probably a mix of both on this board.

it’s cool we can all have our opinions. Some good friends of mine agree with y’all. I just wonder, it is was someone else would you all feel the same. Perhaps. And that’s fine, I just disagree

Get_Right · February 24

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

Obama was one of the best in character, and a great leader for our country. But it is obvious that he had trouble accomplishing anything. To your point congress blocked anything he tried to do. So he accomplished nothing. What makes Trump's moves illegal? SCOTUS shut down the IEEPA tariffs and he finds another legal loophole. The next day. You overestimate how well known his tactics are amongst the common citizens. And why will Trump be considered the worst? Because of ICE? What else? Because he was harsh on tariffs where countries charge us more than we do? There is definitely back hand dealing but I do not find that unique to Trump. And Biden was an invalid and a joke of a commander in chief.

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

Obama was one of the best in character, and a great leader for our country. But it is obvious that he had trouble accomplishing anything. To your point congress blocked anything he tried to do. So he accomplished nothing. What makes Trump's moves illegal? SCOTUS shut down the IEEPA tariffs and he finds another legal loophole. The next day. You overestimate how well known his tactics are amongst the common citizens. And why will Trump be considered the worst? Because of ICE? What else? Because he was harsh on tariffs where countries charge us more than we do? There is definitely back hand dealing but I do not find that unique to Trump. And Biden was an invalid and a joke of a commander in chief.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Sure, so he accomplished “nothing”.

We can disagree regarding whether we approve of what he accomplished or how but it’s delusional to state, “so he accomplished nothing”.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/03/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/

OnWis97 · February 24

Jimmy Carter was a great guy but an ineffective president. But you know what? At least he could be trusted not to turn on his own citizens, punish those that didn't vote for him, put his pocketbook ahead of his country, and cozy up to despots.

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

And check #50 but yea, same-same. One respects the constitution, congress and our system of government and the other shits all over all of it. But they’re equal except for one “accomplished nothing“. Not taking this poster’s posts seriously. Deluded.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/03/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/

Go Beavers · February 25

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

Obama was one of the best in character, and a great leader for our country. But it is obvious that he had trouble accomplishing anything. To your point congress blocked anything he tried to do. So he accomplished nothing. What makes Trump's moves illegal? SCOTUS shut down the IEEPA tariffs and he finds another legal loophole. The next day. You overestimate how well known his tactics are amongst the common citizens. And why will Trump be considered the worst? Because of ICE? What else? Because he was harsh on tariffs where countries charge us more than we do? There is definitely back hand dealing but I do not find that unique to Trump. And Biden was an invalid and a joke of a commander in chief.

The law makes his moves illegal. He didn’t find a legal loophole, because those tariffs will also get shot down. He doesn’t know how to lead, or legislate, and doesn’t work within the Constitutional parameters. He fires off executive orders, most of which get shot down in court.

gimmesometruth27 · February 25

i was just thinking.

every single person in that locker room was either doing their job (reporters, medical staff, equipment managers, etc), or had just done their job (players, coaches, etc),

except for the director of the fbi that decided to take a break from covering for trump with the epstein files, fly to italy, and party it up like he just scored the game winner.

Get_Right · February 25

Go Beavers said:

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

Obama was one of the best in character, and a great leader for our country. But it is obvious that he had trouble accomplishing anything. To your point congress blocked anything he tried to do. So he accomplished nothing. What makes Trump's moves illegal? SCOTUS shut down the IEEPA tariffs and he finds another legal loophole. The next day. You overestimate how well known his tactics are amongst the common citizens. And why will Trump be considered the worst? Because of ICE? What else? Because he was harsh on tariffs where countries charge us more than we do? There is definitely back hand dealing but I do not find that unique to Trump. And Biden was an invalid and a joke of a commander in chief.

The law makes his moves illegal. He didn’t find a legal loophole, because those tariffs will also get shot down. He doesn’t know how to lead, or legislate, and doesn’t work within the Constitutional parameters. He fires off executive orders, most of which get shot down in court.

Do not be so sure of that. His 301 tariffs from 2018 have withstood judicial scrutiny. The IEEPA tariffs were a bold move. But when he has fact find finding requirements for 201, 232 and now 122 tariffs they may stand up. He is well counseled and one thing is for sure is that it takes nearly a year for them to be judged. 232 is next on the judicial docket, but it will take time before there is any resolution. So in the meantime they remain in place. And it will take even longer before importers see any relief.

gimmesometruth27 · February 25

godspeed the factcheckers tonight.

not that it really matters in a post fact world though.

Halifax2TheMax · February 25

gimmesometruth27 said:

godspeed the factcheckers tonight.

not that it really matters in a post fact world though.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Post fact world? Nah, MAGA, repub delusional world with little to no basis in reality.

Look at Il Duce go!

Halifax2TheMax · February 25

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Woah! Big The Bus Driver burn for requiring two forms of ID AND a social security card to shovel snow. Such a burn.

HughFreakingDillon · February 25

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

well, the things you describe are extremely well known/assumed things about politics and washington, which is one reason why so many people don't vote (they think everything is a back room deal and that both sides are the same/one uniparty).

Yeah, still not getting the whole "at least he gets things done" being better than Obama. He's a shitty president doing illegal things. Obama went by the book, and did his best against a congress that literally stated out loud his entire purpose was to block everything obama wanted to do. And you blame that on obama. Maybe blame the obstructionist racist turtle.

I guess getting things done by any means necessary makes Al Capone a great businessman?

Historians all agree-Obama was one of the best. And history will see Trump as one of, if not THE, worst.

Obama was one of the best in character, and a great leader for our country. But it is obvious that he had trouble accomplishing anything. To your point congress blocked anything he tried to do. So he accomplished nothing. What makes Trump's moves illegal? SCOTUS shut down the IEEPA tariffs and he finds another legal loophole. The next day. You overestimate how well known his tactics are amongst the common citizens. And why will Trump be considered the worst? Because of ICE? What else? Because he was harsh on tariffs where countries charge us more than we do? There is definitely back hand dealing but I do not find that unique to Trump. And Biden was an invalid and a joke of a commander in chief.

as halifax noted, he clearly didn't accomplish nothing.

trump will be considered the worst because it has been non stop lying, scandals, bullshit, division, economic and geopolitical disaster after disaster. Do I really have to spell this out? the guy is a fucking train wreck. and will be remembered as such.

HughFreakingDillon · February 25

and biden got a lot done. regardless what you folks think about his cognitive abilities.

Get_Right · February 25

Trump is a terrible human being. I do not debate that. Even if you you do not agree with his politics and tactics. What are the lies you speak of? What did Biden accomplish other than falling down the stairs? He was a joke of a president. Nothing more than a figurehead. And that is why he did not run for a second term.

gimmesometruth27 · February 25

Get_Right said:

Trump is a terrible human being. I do not debate that. Even if you you do not agree with his politics and tactics. What are the lies you speak of? What did Biden accomplish other than falling down the stairs? He was a joke of a president. Nothing more than a figurehead. And that is why he did not run for a second term.

biden got us out of the covid disaster and our economy had the lowest inflation of the entire world.

but he did nothing other than fall up the stairs.

you can google a list of 30,000 verified lies trump has been caught in.

gimmesometruth27 · February 25

Get_Right said:

Trump is a terrible human being. I do not debate that. Even if you you do not agree with his politics and tactics. What are the lies you speak of? What did Biden accomplish other than falling down the stairs? He was a joke of a president. Nothing more than a figurehead. And that is why he did not run for a second term.

also biden destroyed trump in the popular vote and electoral college.

but he just slept and drooled his way though the presidency.

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