Trump/Admin Policies

Get_Right · February 24

Gern Blansten said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

We are calling it like we see it too. You're just wrong.

What am I wrong about? The fact that a large corporate donor can get a tax exception bill sponsored and passed in 5 days leading to a windfall of profits while someone trying to get another human rights bill passed without a sponsor sits out in the cold?

Get_Right · February 24

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'm constantly blown away that most of the admin is made up of a bunch of weenies who just do stuff because they want to be liked and popular by dweebs on the internet who like energy drinks and anime porn.

Washington has been that way for a long time. It is just more obvious now.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Sure. Both sides are the same. It’s always been like this. Nothing to see here nor be concerned about. Just same old-same old. Good fucking lord.

If you need any assistance with realizing how fucked up things are and how wrong this take is, I suggest you head on over to the Letter From An American thread. I’m sure denial is a river in Egypt, eh?

Things have been fucked up for a long time. Nothing in Washington surprises me. It has been corrupt for decades. It is a dirty business. Even the good ones line their pockets. Now we have a slumlord president that knows he can do what he wants and that he will answer to the courts years down the road. SCOTUS ruling? Yeah I will just find another statute to tax businesses. 10% on all imports from all countries. Four days after the SCOTUS ruling. He had this in the hopper. There is no denial. Pretend that government is altruistic. It is not.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Care to point out the fucked-uppedness, level of corruption that equals what we see now and name the “good ones” who line their pockets? What previous administration violated the constitution to this extent or appointed incompetence to this level?

Clinton. Considered a good politician. And a very, very smart man. I have met him several times and have never met another man with the amount of knowledge he has. But he was impeached. Left office with millions he did not have before. Blow jobs in the oval office. And his carpetbagger wife taking in more NY donations. Obama. Got nothing done. He was elected because he was a good speaker. Politicians take care of donors, friends and special interests. Federalist paper No. 10 has come to life. Politicians are a joke and it is all a facade. James Madison got it right.

I don't know that I'd consider Clinton's misgivings on par with the current level of corruption. And I've always said he should have been removed.

And I sure as hell don't consider "getting nothing done" on par with the current kleptocracy / budding dictatorship.

Lipstick on a pig. Different but the same abuse of power. And like it or not, Trump is getting things done although it does skirt the boundaries of legality. Even if you hate everything he is doing. Calling it objectively. He set objectives and is doing something about it. And to be clear, I do not agree with his tactics. I am not a Trump supporter, but I do have some appreciation for a President that is taking action and not waiting around for congress.

A successful career-burglar gets stuff done too. If you think Obama being ineffective is corrupt on par with the billions the Trumps have made over the first two terms, using the FCC to squash descent, ignoring subpoenas, ignoring court rulings, demanding voting rolls to federalize elections, then I guess we're not really at a starting point to even discuss this.

All I said was at least he is doing something. I never said Obama was corrupt. In fact he had no idea how Washington works. First term Senator with no clue. Maybe Chicago taught him some things, but not enough for DC.

Get_Right · February 24

Tim Simmons said:

It’s big ‘stolen sports valor’ vibes IMO. To say nothing of its off putting that the head of the FBI is acting like a 21 year old college kid whose team just won the NCAA.

I think it is more of the boss trying to hang with the "guys." But I agree more restraint should have been exercised.

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Gern Blansten · February 24

Get_Right said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

ACA is not nothing. Legislatively speaking.

Ordered the Bin Laden strike. Not nothing.

with Congress , helped the nation recover, slowly but steadily from 08-09. but yeah did nothing.

I agree with the Bin Laden strike. But he could never get his initiatives passed. Obamacare was a failure. He did create positive energy, but was not a effective lawmaker.

as someone that worked in healthcare until 5 years ago, obamacare was not a failure. stop it with the maga talking point.

if it was so bad, why have the gop not fixed it or replaced it with "something beautiful" at every turn??

either it sucks too bad to be fixed, or the gop is so inept, or better yet, cares so little, that they won't fix it or replace it.

So where is my national healthcare? Like Canada or Japan? Obamacare failed. Why am I still paying $2000 a month for health insurance? Even after corporate subsidies? If you do not have company sponsored healthcare in the US, you might not receive care. The GOP or the Dems won't fix it because the healthcare and pharma lobby is too strong. Campaign contributions and corporate influence control policy making. Just ask the NRA or the hedge fund owners that pay zero tax. It is a system of special interests, not the well being of the average citizen.

You're paying $2K/month instead of $5K....you're welcome

nicknyr15 · February 24

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

gimmesometruth27 · February 24

Get_Right said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

ACA is not nothing. Legislatively speaking.

Ordered the Bin Laden strike. Not nothing.

with Congress , helped the nation recover, slowly but steadily from 08-09. but yeah did nothing.

I agree with the Bin Laden strike. But he could never get his initiatives passed. Obamacare was a failure. He did create positive energy, but was not a effective lawmaker.

as someone that worked in healthcare until 5 years ago, obamacare was not a failure. stop it with the maga talking point.

if it was so bad, why have the gop not fixed it or replaced it with "something beautiful" at every turn??

either it sucks too bad to be fixed, or the gop is so inept, or better yet, cares so little, that they won't fix it or replace it.

So where is my national healthcare? Like Canada or Japan? Obamacare failed. Why am I still paying $2000 a month for health insurance? Even after corporate subsidies? If you do not have company sponsored healthcare in the US, you might not receive care. The GOP or the Dems won't fix it because the healthcare and pharma lobby is too strong. Campaign contributions and corporate influence control policy making. Just ask the NRA or the hedge fund owners that pay zero tax. It is a system of special interests, not the well being of the average citizen.

talk to the republicans, buddy. the dems wanted medicare for all. then aca with a public option. gop said those were non starters. obama passed what he could get passed. again, blame the gop for your sky high out of pocket costs. it would be much, much worse for you without the aca.

cincybearcat · February 24

Lots of KPDS here

or just fun haters….hmmm which one is it…probably a mix of both on this board.

it’s cool we can all have our opinions. Some good friends of mine agree with y’all. I just wonder, it is was someone else would you all feel the same. Perhaps. And that’s fine, I just disagree

gimmesometruth27 · February 24

cincybearcat said:

Lots of KPDS here or just fun haters….hmmm which one is it…probably a mix of both on this board.

it’s cool we can all have our opinions. Some good friends of mine agree with y’all. I just wonder, it is was someone else would you all feel the same. Perhaps. And that’s fine, I just disagree

i would say the same if it were a democratic appointee. a bad look is a bad look.

the fact that patel is a deeply unserious person makes it look even worse in this case.

cincybearcat · February 24

gimmesometruth27 said:

cincybearcat said:

Lots of KPDS here or just fun haters….hmmm which one is it…probably a mix of both on this board.

it’s cool we can all have our opinions. Some good friends of mine agree with y’all. I just wonder, it is was someone else would you all feel the same. Perhaps. And that’s fine, I just disagree

i would say the same if it were a democratic appointee. a bad look is a bad look.

the fact that patel is a deeply unserious person makes it look even worse in this case.

I certainly concede that he is one of the 2 worst people for this for sure….

gimmesometruth27 · February 24

the funny thing is patel is out here promoting bro culture and it is so cringe people may move away from bro culture.

gimmesometruth27 · February 24

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing is patel is out here promoting bro culture and it is so cringe people may move away from bro culture.

at least the self aware ones.

Bentleyspop · February 24

gimmesometruth27 said:

the funny thing is patel is out here promoting bro culture and it is so cringe people may move away from bro culture.

I learned about "cringe" yesterday on Pod Save America.
What he did, what they all do with their performative transactions and all the brainwashed cultists who support it, is all cringe.

OnWis97 · February 24

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'm constantly blown away that most of the admin is made up of a bunch of weenies who just do stuff because they want to be liked and popular by dweebs on the internet who like energy drinks and anime porn.

Washington has been that way for a long time. It is just more obvious now.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Sure. Both sides are the same. It’s always been like this. Nothing to see here nor be concerned about. Just same old-same old. Good fucking lord.

If you need any assistance with realizing how fucked up things are and how wrong this take is, I suggest you head on over to the Letter From An American thread. I’m sure denial is a river in Egypt, eh?

Things have been fucked up for a long time. Nothing in Washington surprises me. It has been corrupt for decades. It is a dirty business. Even the good ones line their pockets. Now we have a slumlord president that knows he can do what he wants and that he will answer to the courts years down the road. SCOTUS ruling? Yeah I will just find another statute to tax businesses. 10% on all imports from all countries. Four days after the SCOTUS ruling. He had this in the hopper. There is no denial. Pretend that government is altruistic. It is not.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Care to point out the fucked-uppedness, level of corruption that equals what we see now and name the “good ones” who line their pockets? What previous administration violated the constitution to this extent or appointed incompetence to this level?

Clinton. Considered a good politician. And a very, very smart man. I have met him several times and have never met another man with the amount of knowledge he has. But he was impeached. Left office with millions he did not have before. Blow jobs in the oval office. And his carpetbagger wife taking in more NY donations. Obama. Got nothing done. He was elected because he was a good speaker. Politicians take care of donors, friends and special interests. Federalist paper No. 10 has come to life. Politicians are a joke and it is all a facade. James Madison got it right.

I don't know that I'd consider Clinton's misgivings on par with the current level of corruption. And I've always said he should have been removed.

And I sure as hell don't consider "getting nothing done" on par with the current kleptocracy / budding dictatorship.

Lipstick on a pig. Different but the same abuse of power. And like it or not, Trump is getting things done although it does skirt the boundaries of legality. Even if you hate everything he is doing. Calling it objectively. He set objectives and is doing something about it. And to be clear, I do not agree with his tactics. I am not a Trump supporter, but I do have some appreciation for a President that is taking action and not waiting around for congress.

A successful career-burglar gets stuff done too. If you think Obama being ineffective is corrupt on par with the billions the Trumps have made over the first two terms, using the FCC to squash descent, ignoring subpoenas, ignoring court rulings, demanding voting rolls to federalize elections, then I guess we're not really at a starting point to even discuss this.

All I said was at least he is doing something. I never said Obama was corrupt. In fact he had no idea how Washington works. First term Senator with no clue. Maybe Chicago taught him some things, but not enough for DC.

I'd read you as saying Obama was just as corrupt. Misread that; fair enough.

But now I read it as Obama's ineffectiveness is a different but equal bad to the current corruption. Getting stuff done is not in itself a good thing.

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! For the record, I debate history and politics and current events the same in person as I do behind the keyboard. You want to have reasoned debate? I’ll have reasoned debate. But be prepared to articulate your argument and back it up. You, general you but could be you, not saying it is you, but you know, want to make nonsense arguments and false analogies, spread misinformation and pretend you’re above the fray and/or go personal? I’m going to call you out. You want to chirp? I’ll chirp back. In front of you or from behind a keyboard. Your “no consequences” sounds like a threat?

Feel free to PM me, like you have in the past, or put me on ignore. Choice is yours but I won’t stop responding to posts of yours, or anyone else’s, on this forum. You won’t cancel me in that way.

O fucking K, big guy?

nicknyr15 · February 24

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
O fucking K! For the record, I debate history and politics and current events the same in person as I do behind the keyboard. You want to have reasoned debate? I’ll have reasoned debate. But be prepared to articulate your argument and back it up. You, general you but could be you, not saying it is you, but you know, want to make nonsense arguments and false analogies, spread misinformation and pretend you’re above the fray and/or go personal? I’m going to call you out. You want to chirp? I’ll chirp back. In front of you or from behind a keyboard. Your “no consequences” sounds like a threat?
Feel free to PM me, like you have in the past, or put me on ignore. Choice is yours but I won’t stop responding to posts of yours, or anyone else’s, on this forum. You won’t cancel me in that way.
O fucking K, big guy?

Nobody asked you to stop responding. I told you don’t mention my name indirectly. You understand the different between the two ? Little boy?

No consequences refers to the fact that you’re still allowed to post here. Theres no point threatening someone like you.

Go Beavers · February 24

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'm constantly blown away that most of the admin is made up of a bunch of weenies who just do stuff because they want to be liked and popular by dweebs on the internet who like energy drinks and anime porn.

Washington has been that way for a long time. It is just more obvious now.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Sure. Both sides are the same. It’s always been like this. Nothing to see here nor be concerned about. Just same old-same old. Good fucking lord.

If you need any assistance with realizing how fucked up things are and how wrong this take is, I suggest you head on over to the Letter From An American thread. I’m sure denial is a river in Egypt, eh?

Things have been fucked up for a long time. Nothing in Washington surprises me. It has been corrupt for decades. It is a dirty business. Even the good ones line their pockets. Now we have a slumlord president that knows he can do what he wants and that he will answer to the courts years down the road. SCOTUS ruling? Yeah I will just find another statute to tax businesses. 10% on all imports from all countries. Four days after the SCOTUS ruling. He had this in the hopper. There is no denial. Pretend that government is altruistic. It is not.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Care to point out the fucked-uppedness, level of corruption that equals what we see now and name the “good ones” who line their pockets? What previous administration violated the constitution to this extent or appointed incompetence to this level?

Clinton. Considered a good politician. And a very, very smart man. I have met him several times and have never met another man with the amount of knowledge he has. But he was impeached. Left office with millions he did not have before. Blow jobs in the oval office. And his carpetbagger wife taking in more NY donations. Obama. Got nothing done. He was elected because he was a good speaker. Politicians take care of donors, friends and special interests. Federalist paper No. 10 has come to life. Politicians are a joke and it is all a facade. James Madison got it right.

I don't know that I'd consider Clinton's misgivings on par with the current level of corruption. And I've always said he should have been removed.

And I sure as hell don't consider "getting nothing done" on par with the current kleptocracy / budding dictatorship.

Lipstick on a pig. Different but the same abuse of power. And like it or not, Trump is getting things done although it does skirt the boundaries of legality. Even if you hate everything he is doing. Calling it objectively. He set objectives and is doing something about it. And to be clear, I do not agree with his tactics. I am not a Trump supporter, but I do have some appreciation for a President that is taking action and not waiting around for congress.

Saying skirt the boundaries of legality isn’t objective at all. He’s violating the law on several fronts, and he’s also supposed to “wait around”’ for Congress, per the Constitution

Halifax2TheMax · February 24

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
O fucking K! For the record, I debate history and politics and current events the same in person as I do behind the keyboard. You want to have reasoned debate? I’ll have reasoned debate. But be prepared to articulate your argument and back it up. You, general you but could be you, not saying it is you, but you know, want to make nonsense arguments and false analogies, spread misinformation and pretend you’re above the fray and/or go personal? I’m going to call you out. You want to chirp? I’ll chirp back. In front of you or from behind a keyboard. Your “no consequences” sounds like a threat?
Feel free to PM me, like you have in the past, or put me on ignore. Choice is yours but I won’t stop responding to posts of yours, or anyone else’s, on this forum. You won’t cancel me in that way.
O fucking K, big guy?

Nobody asked you to stop responding. I told you don’t mention my name indirectly. You understand the different between the two ? Little boy?

No consequences refers to the fact that you’re still allowed to post here. Theres no point threatening someone like you.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Just giving credit where credit is due and, I don’t believe there’s a forum rule regarding mentioning a forum poster by their forum name or a portion thereof in posts.

If I’m Little Boy, you must be Fat Man, eh? WWII reference for those who think I’m going personal. Must be snowing somewhere?

HughFreakingDillon · February 24

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

OnWis97 said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

I'm constantly blown away that most of the admin is made up of a bunch of weenies who just do stuff because they want to be liked and popular by dweebs on the internet who like energy drinks and anime porn.

Washington has been that way for a long time. It is just more obvious now.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Sure. Both sides are the same. It’s always been like this. Nothing to see here nor be concerned about. Just same old-same old. Good fucking lord.

If you need any assistance with realizing how fucked up things are and how wrong this take is, I suggest you head on over to the Letter From An American thread. I’m sure denial is a river in Egypt, eh?

Things have been fucked up for a long time. Nothing in Washington surprises me. It has been corrupt for decades. It is a dirty business. Even the good ones line their pockets. Now we have a slumlord president that knows he can do what he wants and that he will answer to the courts years down the road. SCOTUS ruling? Yeah I will just find another statute to tax businesses. 10% on all imports from all countries. Four days after the SCOTUS ruling. He had this in the hopper. There is no denial. Pretend that government is altruistic. It is not.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Care to point out the fucked-uppedness, level of corruption that equals what we see now and name the “good ones” who line their pockets? What previous administration violated the constitution to this extent or appointed incompetence to this level?

Clinton. Considered a good politician. And a very, very smart man. I have met him several times and have never met another man with the amount of knowledge he has. But he was impeached. Left office with millions he did not have before. Blow jobs in the oval office. And his carpetbagger wife taking in more NY donations. Obama. Got nothing done. He was elected because he was a good speaker. Politicians take care of donors, friends and special interests. Federalist paper No. 10 has come to life. Politicians are a joke and it is all a facade. James Madison got it right.

I don't know that I'd consider Clinton's misgivings on par with the current level of corruption. And I've always said he should have been removed.

And I sure as hell don't consider "getting nothing done" on par with the current kleptocracy / budding dictatorship.

Lipstick on a pig. Different but the same abuse of power. And like it or not, Trump is getting things done although it does skirt the boundaries of legality. Even if you hate everything he is doing. Calling it objectively. He set objectives and is doing something about it. And to be clear, I do not agree with his tactics. I am not a Trump supporter, but I do have some appreciation for a President that is taking action and not waiting around for congress.

A successful career-burglar gets stuff done too. If you think Obama being ineffective is corrupt on par with the billions the Trumps have made over the first two terms, using the FCC to squash descent, ignoring subpoenas, ignoring court rulings, demanding voting rolls to federalize elections, then I guess we're not really at a starting point to even discuss this.

All I said was at least he is doing something. I never said Obama was corrupt. In fact he had no idea how Washington works. First term Senator with no clue. Maybe Chicago taught him some things, but not enough for DC.

so obama was POTUS for 8 years and he didn't have a clue, but "I worked in DC" so you know it all? that's rich.

we're not arguing HOW it currently is in Washington, we're arguing that's how it shouldn't be. Those are two different things. We understand reality. We just don't think getting things done for the sake of getting things done, no matter what those things are, makes a good president.

nicknyr15 · February 24

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Get_Right said:

Keep being ignorant of how it all works in the US. And has worked for decades. You can bash me all you want, but I call it like I see it. I have actually worked in DC. You idealists have no clue.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K! You don’t have a clue and are an idealist if you’ve never worked in DC. How do you know where anyone has worked, or not? Coming from a guy who doesn’t know where ICE’s authority comes from.

Because they “can” and “do”. All in.

O fucking K is my new response to everything. Thanks Nick!

Dont mention my name.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

O fucking K, Will!

Only you’re not in front of me like Chris was. Nor will you ever be. Your antagonistic, condescending nonsense ends the minute you put down your keyboard and walk out your front door. This online persona you’ve perfected here, with zero consequence , is a joke. So again, stop with your indirect bullshit unless we’re directly communicating.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
O fucking K! For the record, I debate history and politics and current events the same in person as I do behind the keyboard. You want to have reasoned debate? I’ll have reasoned debate. But be prepared to articulate your argument and back it up. You, general you but could be you, not saying it is you, but you know, want to make nonsense arguments and false analogies, spread misinformation and pretend you’re above the fray and/or go personal? I’m going to call you out. You want to chirp? I’ll chirp back. In front of you or from behind a keyboard. Your “no consequences” sounds like a threat?
Feel free to PM me, like you have in the past, or put me on ignore. Choice is yours but I won’t stop responding to posts of yours, or anyone else’s, on this forum. You won’t cancel me in that way.
O fucking K, big guy?

Nobody asked you to stop responding. I told you don’t mention my name indirectly. You understand the different between the two ? Little boy?

No consequences refers to the fact that you’re still allowed to post here. Theres no point threatening someone like you.

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.
Just giving credit where credit is due and, I don’t believe there’s a forum rule regarding mentioning a forum poster by their forum name or a portion thereof in posts.

If I’m Little Boy, you must be Fat Man, eh? WWII reference for those who think I’m going personal. Must be snowing somewhere?

No consequence. So you’ll continue to taunt and instigate until the next phrase you latch on to. On a section of a rock bands forum to an audience of about 7 people. Because you “can” and “do”.

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