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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,377
    mca47 said:
    mca47 said:
    Jim beam shutting down for a year…not great.
    I believe it's just one of their facilities, not all.  The whole bourbon industry is recalibrating right now.  The tariffs have been a big problem as foreign countries aren't importing much, people aren't drinking as much and the backlog.  A few years ago every distillery was pumping out product to match demand of the then surging industry.  It's not right now for many reasons, and in the state of Kentucky, each distiller has to pay an annual tax on each barrel that just sits there.  There is an estimated 16 million barrels currently aging in Kentucky.  In the last year, some big boys in the industry have filed for bankruptcy and i expect that to continue as I also expect craft distilleries to take a huge hit and many bought out or completely disappear. 
    That said, while it sucks for them, I do think the consumer will ultimately benefit.  I think prices will come down as they will need to financially need to get barrels in bottles, allocated items will get easier to find (hell, Buffalo Trace products are just sitting on shelves now), and I think we might see more creative releases from the big distilleries....again, to get barrels in bottles and on shelves.  
    When Blantons finally goes below 100 like it should be I will rejoice and hopefully seek out a nice bottle of William LaRue Weller Antique COllection.
    Imagine the day when BTAC is just sitting on a shelf at Total Wine.  hahaha.  THat would be freaking awesome!
    Well it is t my place now.  At $1000+ for those bottles not everyone is buying.

    Also

    These used to be able to get.

    I keep hearing numbers that the younger generation is NOT drinking.  I need more Gen Xers and Boomers to throw their towels in so I can but the stuff cheaper, lol.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,942
    mca47 said:
    Jim beam shutting down for a year…not great.
    I believe it's just one of their facilities, not all.  The whole bourbon industry is recalibrating right now.  The tariffs have been a big problem as foreign countries aren't importing much, people aren't drinking as much and the backlog.  A few years ago every distillery was pumping out product to match demand of the then surging industry.  It's not right now for many reasons, and in the state of Kentucky, each distiller has to pay an annual tax on each barrel that just sits there.  There is an estimated 16 million barrels currently aging in Kentucky.  In the last year, some big boys in the industry have filed for bankruptcy and i expect that to continue as I also expect craft distilleries to take a huge hit and many bought out or completely disappear. 
    That said, while it sucks for them, I do think the consumer will ultimately benefit.  I think prices will come down as they will need to financially need to get barrels in bottles, allocated items will get easier to find (hell, Buffalo Trace products are just sitting on shelves now), and I think we might see more creative releases from the big distilleries....again, to get barrels in bottles and on shelves.  

    I wish that was the case around here!  Still nearly impossible to find any BT products unless you happen to go on the right day.  Or go to one of the asshole liquor stores that sells them for double the retail price.  But I'm more than happy picking up Russel's Reserve or Michter's whenever I want.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,355
    mca47 said:
    Jim beam shutting down for a year…not great.
    I believe it's just one of their facilities, not all.  The whole bourbon industry is recalibrating right now.  The tariffs have been a big problem as foreign countries aren't importing much, people aren't drinking as much and the backlog.  A few years ago every distillery was pumping out product to match demand of the then surging industry.  It's not right now for many reasons, and in the state of Kentucky, each distiller has to pay an annual tax on each barrel that just sits there.  There is an estimated 16 million barrels currently aging in Kentucky.  In the last year, some big boys in the industry have filed for bankruptcy and i expect that to continue as I also expect craft distilleries to take a huge hit and many bought out or completely disappear. 
    That said, while it sucks for them, I do think the consumer will ultimately benefit.  I think prices will come down as they will need to financially need to get barrels in bottles, allocated items will get easier to find (hell, Buffalo Trace products are just sitting on shelves now), and I think we might see more creative releases from the big distilleries....again, to get barrels in bottles and on shelves.  

    I wish that was the case around here!  Still nearly impossible to find any BT products unless you happen to go on the right day.  Or go to one of the asshole liquor stores that sells them for double the retail price.  But I'm more than happy picking up Russel's Reserve or Michter's whenever I want.
    Yeah, don't ever pay the secondary gougers.  It just encourages them to keep at it.  I pretty much see EH Taylor SB at every store here in Phoenix.  Eagle Rare is sitting in a lot of stores, just not as common as the Taylor. 
  • markymark550
    markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,257
    I'm in the same boat as @Indifference71. I can't find anything from BT anywhere around here. I'd love to add a bottle of Eagle Rare to my collection, but that's not happening unless I find a 4-leaf clover, rabbit's foot, and horseshoe all on the same day.
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,238
    I went to a local store today with a friend and they had a pretty incredible selection. Lots of bottles that I never thought I would see in real life. I picked up a bottle of Elmer T. Lee and when the clerk rang it up, it was almost $320.00. I politely said "no thanks" and walked out. MSRP is between $40.00 and $60.00.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV