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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,089
    josevolution said:
    mace1229 said:
    josevolution said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Again, most of these people contribute to the economy and are a net benefit to the US. Who cares how they got here or what their status is. Kick out the bad ones? Sure. Better enforce the border? Certainly. Punish those that crossed the line and are here living trying to get by? Nah. 

    If you’ve been waiting in line for years for your chance, and their actions pushed you back years, you might care how they got here.
    I don’t see any Americans waiting in line to cut lawns to cut down trees to clean houses to wait tables! What are Americans waiting in line for except to get a Chickfillet? 
    I always hear that, but that just depends on where you live. When I was in California, that was true most of the time (except the waiting tables, always plenty of white people doing that). Colorado, was about 50/50.
    Where I live now, most people I see cleaning houses and doing lawn care are white. 
    Yeah where is that? Here in Red Long Island it’s all the Spanish people doing those jobs period! 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,721
    Chicago residents working to support their friends and neighbors...
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicagoans-buy-street-vendors-immigration-crackdown-give-day-fear-rcna243515

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,424
    now I want tacos. Yes, it’s 8am. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,424
    Interesting article about how the tea leaves show that a lot of the immigration stuff from the past year has been BS and that the tides are turning against blanket deportation and the political rmifica5ions for 26 and 28

    https://newrepublic.com/article/203092/trump-fox-laura-ingraham-shocking-on-air-brawl

    TLDR: Dems successes in the 25 elections are rooted in the over extension of the Trump admin in regards to deportations (noted that even Trump is walking back some of the rhetoric). The article posits that white working class Americans and are grossed out by the over extension and that schisms in MAGA are forming because of it.

    Here’s the deeper point: Lots of people overread the immigration-related significance of Trump’s 2024 victory. They looked at voter dissatisfaction with the state of the border under President Joe Biden and discerned an almost seismic cultural reaction to immigration levels inside the country. The former was very real. The latter has turned out to be a mirage. 

    Polls that ask nuanced questions about who should be deported find broad opposition to the removal of longtime residents with no criminal records. Very large majorities have reaffirmed support for immigration as a positive good for the country. The “nativist backlash” is mostly hype: There’s been no serious cultural shift toward wanting far fewer immigrants in the country, and if anything the culture has broadly recoiled against this, now that Trump is actually attempting it.


  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,240
    Tim Simmons said:
    now I want tacos. Yes, it’s 8am. 
    Nothing wrong with a breakfast taco! Especially if made by an immigrant.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,025
    static111 said:
    Rachel Maddow is not far left. If general you think so you might be a conservative.

    That's what I was thinking. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,344
    Get_Right said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    now I want tacos. Yes, it’s 8am. 
    Nothing wrong with a breakfast taco! Especially if made by an immigrant.
    I love making tacos for the Gringos 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    NYPD was called to the scene yesterday after getting reports of armed people pulling people out of cars.
    A scuffle ensues.  2 officers were injured in the scuffle.

    The armed people ended up being ICE officers.

    This isn't going to end well if they show up unannounced like this.  Someone is going to get shot...


  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,262
    tempo_n_groove said:
    NYPD was called to the scene yesterday after getting reports of armed people pulling people out of cars.
    A scuffle ensues.  2 officers were injured in the scuffle.

    The armed people ended up being ICE officers.

    This isn't going to end well if they show up unannounced like this.  Someone is going to get shot...


    Or worse disrespected by a thrown sandwich.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,435
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    NYPD was called to the scene yesterday after getting reports of armed people pulling people out of cars.
    A scuffle ensues.  2 officers were injured in the scuffle.

    The armed people ended up being ICE officers.

    This isn't going to end well if they show up unannounced like this.  Someone is going to get shot...


    Or worse disrespected by a thrown sandwich.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    By an exploding thrown sandwich with the noxious fumes of mustard and onions.

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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    NYPD was called to the scene yesterday after getting reports of armed people pulling people out of cars.
    A scuffle ensues.  2 officers were injured in the scuffle.

    The armed people ended up being ICE officers.

    This isn't going to end well if they show up unannounced like this.  Someone is going to get shot...


    Or worse disrespected by a thrown sandwich.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    By an exploding thrown sandwich with the noxious fumes of mustard and onions.


    that stayed wrapped after landing on the ground.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Six months after ICE apprehended 47 people, including nine kids, in Hays County, Tex., County Judge Ruben Becerra says DHS has ignored his attempts to get answers: “We’re not told why they took them, and we’re not told where they took them. By definition, that’s a kidnapping.”

    Read the full story: https://propub.li/4r06PCg
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    Six months after ICE apprehended 47 people, including nine kids, in Hays County, Tex., County Judge Ruben Becerra says DHS has ignored his attempts to get answers: “We’re not told why they took them, and we’re not told where they took them. By definition, that’s a kidnapping.”

    Read the full story: https://propub.li/4r06PCg

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Tejas, where the law doesn’t apply, unless you’re an “other”. And even then, liberties are taken. Where’d they go, CCOT?

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  • josevolution
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    There’s no cavalry army coming to save this country or stop this vile administration! They are basically giving the judicial system a big 🖕🏽🖕🏽
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  • mickeyrat
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    AltNatParkService adbook post

    We are amazed by the resistance in Charlotte, NC. The Trump administration named the operation there “Charlotte’s Web,” and people have been mobilizing fast. Students, especially, have become the heart of the resistance.

    This was centered in Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools (CMS), one of the largest school districts. On Monday, CMS reported over 30,000 absences across the district as ICE activity ramped up. Entire schools saw dramatic drops in attendance, with walkouts and coordinated actions happening at multiple campuses.

    Across the city, teenagers organized through group chats, campus clubs, and social media, linking up with parents and local advocacy groups. Classrooms emptied as students marched to district buildings, rallied outside their schools, and filled athletic fields with handmade signs calling for protection of immigrant families.

    Teachers noted that students weren’t just staying home, they were speaking out. Many shared stories about relatives and neighbors terrified to leave their houses. Some schools formed “support circles” to check in on families who felt unsafe.

    The result was one of the largest youth-led demonstrations Charlotte has seen, with around 30,000 CMS students taking part through absences, walkouts, or organized rallies.
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  • mickeyrat
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    riiiight......

    ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    mickeyrat said:
    riiiight......

    ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23
    I knew that they would all get sued eventually.  This level of cronyism is something else though...

    Must be the same people who were in charge of the Epstein prison footage.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,344
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    riiiight......

    ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23
    I knew that they would all get sued eventually.  This level of cronyism is something else though...

    Must be the same people who were in charge of the Epstein prison footage.
    It’s just sad that this administration is getting away with such abuses of human rights! It’s straight out of a mob movie 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,205
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    riiiight......

    ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23
    I knew that they would all get sued eventually.  This level of cronyism is something else though...

    Must be the same people who were in charge of the Epstein prison footage.
    It’s just sad that this administration is getting away with such abuses of human rights! It’s straight out of a mob movie 
    If they keep getting sued it has to stop.


  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,262
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    riiiight......

    ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23
    I knew that they would all get sued eventually.  This level of cronyism is something else though...

    Must be the same people who were in charge of the Epstein prison footage.
    It’s just sad that this administration is getting away with such abuses of human rights! It’s straight out of a mob movie 
    If they keep getting sued it has to stop.


    No it doesn’t.  They have no regard for the law anymore.
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