Immigration

Tim Simmons

But this IS the stuff that’s tripping them up and slowing them down. It feels so dire, but the incompetence of the admin shows and stuff like this is working. It’s not preventing it, but it’s mitigating the severity 

tempo_n_groove

static111 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

josevolution said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

riiiight......

ICE’s Detention Center outside Chicago was sued on October 30 for allegedly abusing detainees. One day later, a "system crash" lost all video footage that could have shown how detainees were being treated. https://trib.al/QXJMq23

I knew that they would all get sued eventually.  This level of cronyism is something else though...

Must be the same people who were in charge of the Epstein prison footage.

It’s just sad that this administration is getting away with such abuses of human rights! It’s straight out of a mob movie 

If they keep getting sued it has to stop.

No it doesn’t.  They have no regard for the law anymore.

They don't until they are forced too.  That is why the suing is good.

Look, this has all played out before and ended badly.  The departments were sued and had to pay out a lot of money.

OnWis97

Speaking of ICE agents, it's always the people you most suspect...

ICE Employee Arrested in Child Sex Sting Allegedly Told Cops, 'I'm ICE, Boys.' The Police Chief Was Not Impressed

mickeyrat

you dont say.....

BREAKING: For the first time since the beginning of the government shutdown in October, ICE has published information about the thousands of immigrants detained in facilities across the country.

And the immigrants being arrested aren’t criminals at all. https://trib.al/Z9QucYJ

mickeyrat

From a federal judge: “Bovino appeared evasive over the three days of his deposition, either providing ‘cute’ responses to plaintiffs’ counsel’s questions or outright lying.” https://slate.trib.al/nnqGCVV

mickeyrat

A Court security guard at the Licht Judicial Complex in Providence, Rhode Island noticed a masked man taking photographs inside the courtroom. The guard approached the man and asked asked him to identify himself. He said he was a cowardly thug working for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The guard told him to stop taking photographs inside the courthouse.

A few minutes later, ICE agents arrested a high school-age boy outside the courthouse and placed him in handcuffs. Security recognized the teenager and reported the arrest to Superior Court Judge Joseph McBurney, who came outside and told the ICE agents they’d made a mistake and had arrested his high school intern. A heated argument ensued between the judge and men from ICE. After reviewing the boy’s identification, ICE admitted they’d arrested the wrong person and released the student.

Disturbed by the arrest, the boy asked the Judge if he could go home for the day. The judge agreed and offered to drive him. At that point, the ICE agents returned, surrounded the judge’s car, told them to get out and threatened to smash the car windows if they didn’t comply. At that point, the Head of Security Operations for the R.I. Superior Court, Dana Smith, approached the car and told the Judge and the boy to remain in the vehicle. Then Smith confronted the ICE agents, who eventually left the scene without making an arrest.

“This egregious incident underscores both the community’s and the Judiciary’s concerns about how ICE is conducting its operations in Rhode Island,” said R.I. Supreme Court Chief Justice Paul A. Suttell.

josevolution

Bunch of thugs sooner or later there will be death 

josevolution

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-press-secretary-karoline-leavitts-relative-detained-ice-rcna246000
she’ll be out of custody in minutes! 

mickeyrat

Under a zero tolerance policy, the first Trump administration separated immigrant children from their families at the U.S.-Mexico border. New data suggests separations now happen all over the country, often after little more than a traffic stop.

Read the full story: https://propub.li/4pa984D

mickeyrat

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Bentleyspop

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

mace1229

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

josevolution

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

lol no they are saying ICE would grab folks in church if they thought they were there or that ICE would deport Mary baby Jesus and Joseph ! That’s how I’m seeing it still though I like what that church did 

Halifax2TheMax

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ICE deporting citizens or “others” previously given permission by government to be where they were before being deported. Makes total sense if you don’t think about it.

Vitalogensia

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

The myth of Jesus’s birth doesn’t make much sense either, so perhaps it’s appropriate to play with facts in order to make a point? 

mace1229

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

lol no they are saying ICE would grab folks in church if they thought they were there or that ICE would deport Mary baby Jesus and Joseph ! That’s how I’m seeing it still though I like what that church did 

Thats what I said, they are portraying it that Mary, Jesus and Joseph got deported by ICE. But they were returning to their country of origin as ordered by the government. ICE deporting them isn't a good analogy here. 

Tim Simmons

I’d argue that most people didn’t know that aspect of the story. 

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

I'm surprised the church did that.

mace1229

Vitalogensia said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

The myth of Jesus’s birth doesn’t make much sense either, so perhaps it’s appropriate to play with facts in order to make a point? 

It's a church, so I really doubt they are trying to make fun of the "myth."
Whether you believe it or not, doesn't change the details of the story. If you understand the details, it's a stupid analogy that doesn't make sense. They weren't immigrants, they were ordered by the government to return to their homeland for a census. The two cities were not that far apart and ruled under the same king at the time. Saying ICE would have deported them as illegal immigrants for returning to their homeland as ordered by the head of government is just a dumb analogy. 

Vitalogensia

mace1229 said:

Vitalogensia said:

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

mickeyrat said:

A Nativity display at a church in Massachusetts is sparking a debate after swapping Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus for a sign that reads "ICE was here."
Details: https://www.wpri.com/new-england/massachusetts/ice-was-here-massachusetts-church-displays-message-in-nativity-scene/

Well they were undocumented immigrants. 
Good for that church

. Are they trying to say they got deported out of Bethlehem?
They were returning to their country of origin by order of the government. So blaming ICE for them not being there really doesn't make much sense. If anything, ICE would have been the reason they were there. 
That would be like saying ICE stopped a group of hispanics from returning to their home country and forced them to stay here. Doesn't really make sense. I don't think they thought this one through. 

The myth of Jesus’s birth doesn’t make much sense either, so perhaps it’s appropriate to play with facts in order to make a point? 

It's a church, so I really doubt they are trying to make fun of the "myth."
Whether you believe it or not, doesn't change the details of the story. If you understand the details, it's a stupid analogy that doesn't make sense. They weren't immigrants, they were ordered by the government to return to their homeland for a census. The two cities were not that far apart and ruled under the same king at the time. Saying ICE would have deported them as illegal immigrants for returning to their homeland as ordered by the head of government is just a dumb analogy. 

Respectfully, I didn’t write they were making fun of it, I questioned if they were trying to make a point. Since you know the details, though, can you tell me what day, month, and year the Bible gives us for Jesus’s birth?  That might help clear up why I view the story as a widely held false belief, aka myth.