Guns.

brianlux · September 18

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

Yeah, sounds right. And, of courses, making those kinds of exaggerated and false claims simply reveals sure signs of weakness and insecurity. Not even worth confronting that kind of nonsense. Let them bark until they are horse and wind until the spring breaks.

HughFreakingDillon · September 18

There was a vigil held for Charlie Kirk at the Manitoba Legislature the other night (citizens, no government involvement).

I’m sick to my stomach.

mrussel1 · September 18

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

by that rationale we are all radical left to maga.

Exactly
You, me, Pearl Jam., etc

to me most of us here are moderate to center left. i would love to see some real "radical leftists" pop up and see how maga reacts. trump wouldn't know what to do if he was faced with a real radical left.

We had one that was out of control and got banned. Do you remember that alleged college professor who said that he had a kid and called it "theybe" until the child was old enough to choose its gender. Then he called Kat a Nazi or something and said some other crazy shit and got banned. He was here for about two weeks before he was out. That was a real leftist.

Gern Blansten · September 18

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

by that rationale we are all radical left to maga.

Exactly
You, me, Pearl Jam., etc

to me most of us here are moderate to center left. i would love to see some real "radical leftists" pop up and see how maga reacts. trump wouldn't know what to do if he was faced with a real radical left.

We had one that was out of control and got banned. Do you remember that alleged college professor who said that he had a kid and called it "theybe" until the child was old enough to choose its gender. Then he called Kat a Nazi or something and said some other crazy shit and got banned. He was here for about two weeks before he was out. That was a real leftist.

wow I don't remember that...

Halifax2TheMax · September 18

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

by that rationale we are all radical left to maga.

Exactly
You, me, Pearl Jam., etc

to me most of us here are moderate to center left. i would love to see some real "radical leftists" pop up and see how maga reacts. trump wouldn't know what to do if he was faced with a real radical left.

We had one that was out of control and got banned. Do you remember that alleged college professor who said that he had a kid and called it "theybe" until the child was old enough to choose its gender. Then he called Kat a Nazi or something and said some other crazy shit and got banned. He was here for about two weeks before he was out. That was a real leftist.

wow I don't remember that...

https://share.google/images/FEtLtZDlB41ZJdVg7

gimmesometruth27 · September 18

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

by that rationale we are all radical left to maga.

Exactly
You, me, Pearl Jam., etc

to me most of us here are moderate to center left. i would love to see some real "radical leftists" pop up and see how maga reacts. trump wouldn't know what to do if he was faced with a real radical left.

We had one that was out of control and got banned. Do you remember that alleged college professor who said that he had a kid and called it "theybe" until the child was old enough to choose its gender. Then he called Kat a Nazi or something and said some other crazy shit and got banned. He was here for about two weeks before he was out. That was a real leftist.

wow I don't remember that...

me neither.

gimmesometruth27 · September 18

there were a couple of real ones on here back maybe 8-10 years ago. one got banned and i think the others just did not renew.

tbergs · September 18

gimmesometruth27 said:

there were a couple of real ones on here back maybe 8-10 years ago. one got banned and i think the others just did not renew.

I remember 1 that was really extreme and another that pushed the envelope. Both ended up banned. I still remember both their avatars. One was a Ben Stiller rage mode image from his Mr. Furious character.

Tim Simmons · September 18

They probably got the message when Eddie got boo'd at MSG.

mrussel1 · September 18

Tim Simmons said:

They probably got the message when Eddie got boo'd at MSG.

When was that, what was it about?

Go Beavers · September 18

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

njhaley1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

njhaley1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

brianlux said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact his entire family is maga could mean nothing. He could be the black sheep who is the only liberal. And could have caused such a giant swing he could have been radicalized.

Or he could be radicalized maga.

The point being, we don’t have anything verifiable yet.

The governor came out this morning and said based on information from the family, friends and his partner and private messages, he was “radicalized” by the extreme left. As far as I know, that is the first official response from anyone directly involved in the investigation as to the shooter’s beliefs.

How does one in Utah go radical left?

Binge watching the West Wing?

Read A Moving Train message boards?

the bitterness

Literally the same comment as the west wing, is that one bitter?

west wing is a phenomenal show, back when there wasn’t a woke litmus test among democrats.

had a nice long post for u the other day about why nyc mayor race is very relevant to national politics….its not bitter at all.

No. The fact that you think this place is so ‘radical left’ that it upsets you so much that you need to keep trying to get that dig in whenever you can.

I have to admit I haven't but up to speed on this place lately, but it amazes me that here, of all places, anyone still refers to some of the people on this forum as "radical left". That's like saying a high of 82 degrees Fahrenheit is an indicator of a major heat wave, or the common house fly is and large insect. Good grief!

It's a dogwhistle utilized by the retRUmplicans to wind up their base. Any ideas, policies, thoughts that don't align with their regressive theology is "radical left".

When "woke" just doesn't cut it and you need people to be more afraid and hateful.

Woke is a better way of describing the far left than using extremists or leftists?

and for those thinking the shoe doesn’t fit, set up a new acct and comment like a centrist. Watch the replies with joy.

I feel like "woke" is describing a philosophy of treating everyone with respect, having empathy; being inclusive and supporting a diverse range of opinions, cultures, and beliefs; being a polite member of society, etc. Many of the things that CK was decidedly not. I would love to believe that that applies to many of us here.

Radical left, on the other hand, suggests something more subversive, think IRA, Weather Underground, etc.

I would guess I'd be labeled as "woke" - I've spent my life in a career that started out heavily dominated by white males - like 90%+, and I was one of them. Now, our incoming professionals are 80% women with many minorities represented - Indians, Asians, Hispanics, Arabs. It's awesome, this field is significantly better because of it; even if I'm old enough to feel a little uncomfortable around intelligent women with opinions, that's my problem, not theirs.

My boss is a black woman with a medical degree and a law degree - would someone say she benefited off of affirmative action and doesn't deserve her job? Probably, but she's great at her job and I respect her quite a bit. I often wonder about what she's had to go through to get where she is, the grit she's had to have to ignore comments like those.

I have a trans (M>F) neighbor and while I sometimes feel like I'm gawking at a fish on a bicycle, it's more curiosity - what is her life like? Is she terrified living in a ruby red neighborhood? I'm empathetic to her situation, I don't wish she were dead or blame all of my problems on her or think she needs to find Christ and a wife and have kids.

If these things make me "radical left," well shit, I'll be one of the first to hop on the trains. But I like to think it's how Christ would handle things, even though I consider myself an atheist.

Your bottom paragraph is EXACTLY how I explain it to cons/religious folk. JC certainly would have been left, he certainly WAS woke, and he absolutely was a radical.

( 🙋‍♂️Agnostic here)

The problem is that the textbook definition of woke is different than the practical definition we often see play out.
Textbook definition is to be aware of racial or social injustices. Which we should be doing.
The problem is when a company takes that, and like United Airlines, says that 50% of all new hires must be of a minority group. I don't think that's a practical application of being woke. Or, when I worked in Colorado, I was literally told by admin that we can't discipline minority students because "it makes us looks racist." How well do you think those minority schools worked out? Most people would see that as a woke approach to a problem. SO when I, or people in my circles, complain about something being woke, I'm talking about these asinine policies that have developed about race. A kid can cuss me out, and if he's white he gets suspended, if he's black I'm told ignore it. Literally.

Do you have a source for the united 50% reference? I’m interested in reading that.

Tim Simmons · September 18

mrussel1 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They probably got the message when Eddie got boo'd at MSG.

When was that, what was it about?

Its a joke and callback to Lerx saying at last years MSG shows Eddie went after Republicans and (according to Lerx) got the whole place to boo at him.

gimmesometruth27 · September 18

if you have five minutes, watch this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOuQsygEYDD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

gimmesometruth27 · September 18

tbergs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

there were a couple of real ones on here back maybe 8-10 years ago. one got banned and i think the others just did not renew.

I remember 1 that was really extreme and another that pushed the envelope. Both ended up banned. I still remember both their avatars. One was a Ben Stiller rage mode image from his Mr. Furious character.

there were a handful of them, i remember. i don't recall that specific avatar, but i know they would change screen names and avatars so the only way you could figure out who they were was by posting style. they all seemed to know each other off the board as well.

mickeyrat · September 18

on kirk.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/bf/60rhu2zyh7bn.jpg

Halifax2TheMax · September 19

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747

This is who some on here appear to be defending or critical of the criticism of this POS. ‘Murikkka has lost its mind and way in a big way. Thoughts and prayers.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOuVTWJCtLS/?igsh=MzZyazZlNTV0MG42

josevolution · September 19

Halifax2TheMax said:

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747

This is who some on here appear to be defending or critical of the criticism of this POS. ‘Murikkka has lost its mind and way in a big way. Thoughts and prayers.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOuVTWJCtLS/?igsh=MzZyazZlNTV0MG42

He lived by the sword and died by it as the saying goes! That Muslims quote is damn

DE4173 · September 19

Continuing to clutter the "Guns" thread since the Charlie Kirk one is still closed:

This is crazy 😳

Charlie Kirk memorial service:

9/21/25

State Farm Stadium, Glendale, AZ (home of the NFL's Arizona Cardinals)

63,400 permanent seats (expandable to ~73,000); overflow seating at nearby Desert Diamond Arena (20,000 seats) if needed

The event is expected to draw thousands, including high-profile Trump administration officials, Republican lawmakers, and Kirk's supporters. Confirmed speakers include:

President Donald Trump (a longtime ally; expected to present a posthumous Medal of Freedom)

Vice President JD Vance (escorted Kirk's casket home)

Erika Kirk (widow)

Secretary of State Marco Rubio

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard

Tucker Carlson

Stephen Miller

Donald Trump Jr.

Other notable attendees may include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and House Speaker Mike Johnson

mrussel1 · September 19

DE4173 said:

Continuing to clutter the "Guns" thread since the Charlie Kirk one is still closed:

This is crazy 😳

Charlie Kirk memorial service:

9/21/25
State Farm Stadium, Glendale, AZ (home of the NFL's Arizona Cardinals)

63,400 permanent seats (expandable to ~73,000); overflow seating at nearby Desert Diamond Arena (20,000 seats) if needed

The event is expected to draw thousands, including high-profile Trump administration officials, Republican lawmakers, and Kirk's supporters. Confirmed speakers include:

President Donald Trump (a longtime ally; expected to present a posthumous Medal of Freedom)
Vice President JD Vance (escorted Kirk's casket home)
Erika Kirk (widow)
Secretary of State Marco Rubio
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard
Tucker Carlson
Stephen Miller
Donald Trump Jr.

Other notable attendees may include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and House Speaker Mike Johnson

I hope you get a great seat. I’ll be at the Phish shows instead.

josevolution · September 19

mrussel1 said:

DE4173 said:

Continuing to clutter the "Guns" thread since the Charlie Kirk one is still closed:

This is crazy 😳

Charlie Kirk memorial service:

9/21/25
State Farm Stadium, Glendale, AZ (home of the NFL's Arizona Cardinals)

63,400 permanent seats (expandable to ~73,000); overflow seating at nearby Desert Diamond Arena (20,000 seats) if needed

The event is expected to draw thousands, including high-profile Trump administration officials, Republican lawmakers, and Kirk's supporters. Confirmed speakers include:

President Donald Trump (a longtime ally; expected to present a posthumous Medal of Freedom)
Vice President JD Vance (escorted Kirk's casket home)
Erika Kirk (widow)
Secretary of State Marco Rubio
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard
Tucker Carlson
Stephen Miller
Donald Trump Jr.

Other notable attendees may include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and House Speaker Mike Johnson

I hope you get a great seat. I’ll be at the Phish shows instead.

Enjoy 😉

Guns.

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