Screw Free Speech

Gern Blansten · September 17

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

I have no problem with the moderation. I have a good relationship (I think) with the mods even though they’ve had to slap me on the wrist a few times. I understand their role. I also understand that each case is different. Sometimes it’s not even really a punishment, being given a time out. It’s an opportunity to cool down and reflect. Permanent bans are the punishment.

I do appreciate, though, that they don’t get hoodwinked into the victimhood that we sometimes see here. I’ve been talked to extremely disrespectfully at times. Some downright nasty and personal. Do I whine about the rules? Nope. Just put that person on ignore and move on.

DarthMaeglin · September 17

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

I have tried following the rules and dispute the substance of a post and do not (with one admitted recent exception) attack the poster. Even then I just told them to fuck off.

It feels like one answer would be to now just start telling others they have reading comprehension issues or are delusional, a sample of what I’ve been told. And I tried asking politely for the individual to back off of the personal insults several times to no avail (in fact often doubled down, lol).

It’s unfortunate that both sides of the spectrum have entrenched themselves so that there isn’t really much discussion anymore. I know I’ve come across as firm in my own stance, and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to change for some time.

Unfortunately explaining myself at length also tends to get me more grief than it solves.

Gern Blansten · September 17

DarthMaeglin said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

I have tried following the rules and dispute the substance of a post and do not (with one admitted recent exception) attack the poster. Even then I just told them to fuck off.

It feels like one answer would be to now just start telling others they have reading comprehension issues or are delusional, a sample of what I’ve been told. And I tried asking politely for the individual to back off of the personal insults several times to no avail (in fact often doubled down, lol).

It’s unfortunate that both sides of the spectrum have entrenched themselves so that there isn’t really much discussion anymore. I know I’ve come across as firm in my own stance, and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to change for some time.

Unfortunately explaining myself at length also tends to get me more grief than it solves.

You are still here so you must be doing ok.

I don't think accusing someone of comprehension issues or being delusional is a personal attack. Sometimes all of us say stupid things.

But yeah...the environment is toxic and that generally relates to ridiculous news sources that people use or posting opinion as fact.

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

DarthMaeglin said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

I have tried following the rules and dispute the substance of a post and do not (with one admitted recent exception) attack the poster. Even then I just told them to fuck off.

It feels like one answer would be to now just start telling others they have reading comprehension issues or are delusional, a sample of what I’ve been told. And I tried asking politely for the individual to back off of the personal insults several times to no avail (in fact often doubled down, lol).

It’s unfortunate that both sides of the spectrum have entrenched themselves so that there isn’t really much discussion anymore. I know I’ve come across as firm in my own stance, and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to change for some time.

Unfortunately explaining myself at length also tends to get me more grief than it solves.

We’re both guilty of saying things in that vein. It got worse when more and more of your posts were just blatant attacks on liberals as a whole, or sarcasm directed at one of my past positions. However, I do recall once explaining to you, out in the open, sometimes I say those things out of my own frustration because of the respect I have for your political knowledge and ability to articulate it better than I can. So, yes, in short, I’ve been a dick at times. And I apologize for that. But the last months it’s just been a lot of sarcastic attacks. (And I get annoyed at the complaining)

And I’ve been guilty of the same. I am trying to do better.

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

DarthMaeglin said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

I have tried following the rules and dispute the substance of a post and do not (with one admitted recent exception) attack the poster. Even then I just told them to fuck off.

It feels like one answer would be to now just start telling others they have reading comprehension issues or are delusional, a sample of what I’ve been told. And I tried asking politely for the individual to back off of the personal insults several times to no avail (in fact often doubled down, lol).

It’s unfortunate that both sides of the spectrum have entrenched themselves so that there isn’t really much discussion anymore. I know I’ve come across as firm in my own stance, and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to change for some time.

Unfortunately explaining myself at length also tends to get me more grief than it solves.

I think the full quote was “fuck off, asshole”. 😂

it’s all good.

DarthMaeglin · September 17

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

The moderation here is…interesting, to put it mildly, based on my own recent experiences.

The claim at the top that we’re big on respect here isn’t applied equally, with vulgarity being the apparent tipping point (sometimes).

Disagree...a lot of us receive warnings but we don't cry about it. If you like it here follow the rules.

agreed.

darth we have all seen some of the things you said that got you in trouble. maybe don't do that next time.

my guideline is "if i think this post will get me banned, i walk it back." seems to work so far.

The only time I was jailed was when I got fed up with personal putdowns and told the person “Fuck off asshole”. But the putdowns were deemed ok (because they didn’t use vulgarity?).

that is why there are pms. you could have just pmd the poster and said that. or stopped engaging. if someone ever has me heated i disengage and come back another time.

That’s where the mods could communicate more clearly. I got a dm from them and when I replied accepting my punishment I was instantly banned with nothing stating it was temporary, lending the strong impression it was permanent.

It remains astounding to me how many personally demeaning comments are allowed to stand around here, hence my mocking of the “respect” admonishment in the sticky post. The rules are not applied consistently, and the impression of impartiality is blown out of the water when the moderators participate directly in conversations. I always thought they were supposed to remain above the fray, objective. Silly me.

Edit: I won’t be surprised if this post gets me in trouble for being critical of the moderators. I’d love to be wrong about that though.

The more recent bans that I have noticed seemed to relate to people that just trolled. No meaningful info provided, just constant trolling. That's against the rules.

Follow the rules.

I have never complained about any post made here. I imagine some people do flag some posts. The moderation here is definitely a lot more strict than any other forum I have been involved in but I have to say that this is the only forum that I participate in now and it is run very well.

I could say a few nasty things right now and I have no doubt that I would get banned. It's fair....deal with it.

I have tried following the rules and dispute the substance of a post and do not (with one admitted recent exception) attack the poster. Even then I just told them to fuck off.

It feels like one answer would be to now just start telling others they have reading comprehension issues or are delusional, a sample of what I’ve been told. And I tried asking politely for the individual to back off of the personal insults several times to no avail (in fact often doubled down, lol).

It’s unfortunate that both sides of the spectrum have entrenched themselves so that there isn’t really much discussion anymore. I know I’ve come across as firm in my own stance, and I’ve been trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to change for some time.

Unfortunately explaining myself at length also tends to get me more grief than it solves.

We’re both guilty of saying things in that vein. It got worse when more and more of your posts were just blatant attacks on liberals as a whole, or sarcasm directed at one of my past positions. However, I do recall once explaining to you, out in the open, sometimes I say those things out of my own frustration because of the respect I have for your political knowledge and ability to articulate it better than I can. So, yes, in short, I’ve been a dick at times. And I apologize for that. But the last months it’s just been a lot of sarcastic attacks. (And I get annoyed at the complaining)

And I’ve been guilty of the same. I am trying to do better.

I do recall you saying that and I took it sincerely, however when the comments continued it became difficult. I appreciate you bringing the temperature down now.

I’ve taken the habit of rereading my posts three or four times before hitting post, especially if/when I can realize I’m hot under the collar, and if there’s anything attacking the person I remove it. It’s difficult to always recognize when one’s emotions are up, admittedly, especially given how passionate so many of us are about the various issues. The passion’s a good thing though, lol.

cincybearcat · September 17

Yup it's ok to call some racist, misogynistic, etc....but if you respond with a "Fuck off"...a warning or ban you will get. You are supposed to ignore it, or flag it for the mods to do whatever they think is right apparently. I don;t agree with it, but that is their rules.

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

cincybearcat said:

Yup it's ok to call some racist, misogynistic, etc....but if you respond with a "Fuck off"...a warning or ban you will get. You are supposed to ignore it, or flag it for the mods to do whatever they think is right apparently. I don;t agree with it, but that is their rules.

I’ve been called the worst of the worst from people here. Some from my supposed “own team”. The key to not reacting like that is knowing they don’t really know you.

There is a definite line and it’s pretty easy not to cross.

PJ_Soul · September 17

I don't think I see a problem with calling someone out for what one sees as racist or misogynistic comments. If someone says something racist or sexist, it's probably best that someone identifies it as such.

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think I see a problem with calling someone out for what one sees as racist or misogynistic comments. If someone says something racist or sexist, it's probably best that someone identifies it as such.

yeah, I tend to agree. And I've been called some of those things, and either you defend your position or you don't.

cincybearcat · September 17

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think I see a problem with calling someone out for what one sees as racist or misogynistic comments. If someone says something racist or sexist, it's probably best that someone identifies it as such.

yeah, I tend to agree. And I've been called some of those things, and either you defend your position or you don't.

Oh yeah so easy here. And a difference in calling someone a name/label and saying what they typed seems like a racist comment, etc. But anyhow, I perfectly fine with telling someone to F off when they are bringing in a fake argument something else to a discussion. But the mods here aren't. But they are fine with people calling others those labels, and I'm not. But it's not my board.

Gern Blansten · September 17

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't think I see a problem with calling someone out for what one sees as racist or misogynistic comments. If someone says something racist or sexist, it's probably best that someone identifies it as such.

yeah, I tend to agree. And I've been called some of those things, and either you defend your position or you don't.

Oh yeah so easy here. And a difference in calling someone a name/label and saying what they typed seems like a racist comment, etc. But anyhow, I perfectly fine with telling someone to F off when they are bringing in a fake argument something else to a discussion. But the mods here aren't. But they are fine with people calling others those labels, and I'm not. But it's not my board.

That doesn't mean you can't disagree...just don't say "fuck off"

Halifax2TheMax · September 17

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747

Talk about hypocrisy. And snowflakery.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/17/firings-over-reactions-to-kirk-killing-spark-free-speech-debate-in-the-us

gimmesometruth27 · September 17

Halifax2TheMax said:

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747
Talk about hypocrisy. And snowflakery.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/17/firings-over-reactions-to-kirk-killing-spark-free-speech-debate-in-the-us

what's with the new disclaimer?

Gern Blansten · September 17

Lol Kimmel taken off the air...didn't say shit

Halifax2TheMax · September 17

gimmesometruth27 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747
Talk about hypocrisy. And snowflakery.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/17/firings-over-reactions-to-kirk-killing-spark-free-speech-debate-in-the-us

what's with the new disclaimer?

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747

Getting doxxed, someone crying to my employer because of my opinions or contacting wittle Marco and having my passport revoked. Wouldn’t put it past some of the snowflakes.

It’s a new world. Sorry Charlie.

DE4173 · September 17

Gern Blansten said:

Lol Kimmel taken off the air...didn't say shit

https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1968456332899500043?t=RIoJAkuku2EaKo7iOVeBSw&s=19

HughFreakingDillon · September 17

Gern Blansten said:

Lol Kimmel taken off the air...didn't say shit

You live in Russia now. It’s confirmed.

Halifax2TheMax · September 17

*The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747

How long before music acts are banned or told to tone it down because the record label, ticket seller or venues kiss the ring and bend the knee? Shut up and sing, eh? Don’t upset wittle Marco or you won’t be able to enter the country or return. And you better not have any one like the likes of Howard Zinn on stage or you’ll be accused of promoting terrorists and tossed in jail.

Screw Free Speech

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