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aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
Screw Free Speech, NPR Fires Juan Williams for Muslim Remarks

http://bigjournalism.com/pjsalvatore/2010/10/20/screw-free-speech-npr-fires-juan-williams-for-muslim-remarks/
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Mr. Williams is free to talk as he wishes...however, he won't be free-speechin' as a employee of NPR...


    is that hard...?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    he should have known that whenever he went on tv he is an employee of NPR and should have acted as a better representative of npr. they can fire whoever they want.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Latin SquareLatin Square Posts: 21
    inmytree wrote:
    Mr. Williams is free to talk as he wishes...however, he won't be free-speechin' as a employee of NPR...


    is that hard...?


    Agreed. The right to speak freely doesn't free people from the consequences.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Yes when you try and be truthful you get into trouble........How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    It was taken completely out of context, but that's the state of politics right now, whatever gets the headlines.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Did he just get fired for saying that people in Arab attire make him a little nervous at the airport?
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    aerial wrote:
    Yes when you try and be truthful you get into trouble........How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    which is different than screwing free speech...
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    Did he just get fired for saying that people in Arab attire make him a little nervous at the airport?

    “I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country,” he said. “But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they’re identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.”

    Read more at Wonkette: Juan Williams Fired For Admitting He Is Afraid of Flying Muslims
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P wrote:
    Did he just get fired for saying that people in Arab attire make him a little nervous at the airport?

    I wonder if he had said "Americans in uniform" make me nervous he would still have a job ? :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Godfather. wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Did he just get fired for saying that people in Arab attire make him a little nervous at the airport?

    I wonder if he had said "Americans in uniform" make me nervous he would still have a job ? :lol:

    Godfather.


    :roll:
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    aerial wrote:
    Yes when you try and be truthful you get into trouble........How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......


    Just curious --- Do you get scared when you see middle eastern people?

    What about Rick Sanchez? I didn't see your post on him, huh? :?
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Doesn't the First Amendment only protect you from the government interfering in what you say? Last time I checked, a corporation (like NPR) was allowed to fire you for publicly saying Muslims scare you.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    poor juan...so oppressed

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1 ... tract.html
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1021/ ... n-Williams
    ...
    Six 'so-called' journalists fired/quit over racial and/or ethinc comments"
    Juan Williams (NPR) - Afraid of people dressed in Muslim clothing
    Helen Thomas (Hearst) - Thinks the Jews should 'get the Hell out of Palestine'.
    Octavia Nasr (CNN) - Respects Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah as a giant of Hezbollah
    Laura Schlessinger (Quit her syndicated Radio Show) - Likes the word, 'Nigger'.
    Rick Sanchez (CNN) - Thinks the Jews run the media.
    Don imus (CBS Radio) - Thinks the WNBA are a bunch of Nappy-headed Hos.
    ...
    Nothing to do with Freedom of Speech... because Congress, nor any State legislative branches did not act on ANY of these cases.
    Bottom line... it is all about MONEY. Ratings for CNN, CBS Hearst Newspapers... donated subscriptions from private citizens and/or foundations and public funding through grants for NPR. Money... moreso, the LOSS of money was the the driving source behind these BUSINESS DECISIONS.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    is sexual harrasment protected under you free speech clause to employment?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Cosmo wrote:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1021/The-Juan-Williams-treatment-five-other-ousted-media-personalities/Juan-Williams
    ...
    Six 'so-called' journalists fired/quit over racial and/or ethinc comments"
    Juan Williams (NPR) - Afraid of people dressed in Muslim clothing
    Helen Thomas (Hearst) - Thinks the Jews should 'get the Hell out of Palestine'.
    Octavia Nasr (CNN) - Respects Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah as a giant of Hezbollah
    Laura Schlessinger (Quit her syndicated Radio Show) - Likes the word, 'Nigger'.
    Rick Sanchez (CNN) - Thinks the Jews run the media.
    Don imus (CBS Radio) - Thinks the WNBA are a bunch of Nappy-headed Hos.
    I bet they could all get jobs at Fox News... Look at the shit O'Reilly says and he still has a job.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1021/The-Juan-Williams-treatment-five-other-ousted-media-personalities/Juan-Williams
    ...
    Six 'so-called' journalists fired/quit over racial and/or ethinc comments"
    Juan Williams (NPR) - Afraid of people dressed in Muslim clothing
    Helen Thomas (Hearst) - Thinks the Jews should 'get the Hell out of Palestine'.
    Octavia Nasr (CNN) - Respects Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah as a giant of Hezbollah
    Laura Schlessinger (Quit her syndicated Radio Show) - Likes the word, 'Nigger'.
    Rick Sanchez (CNN) - Thinks the Jews run the media.
    Don imus (CBS Radio) - Thinks the WNBA are a bunch of Nappy-headed Hos.
    I bet they could all get jobs at Fox News... Look at the shit O'Reilly says and he still has a job.
    Like norm's point haha!
    "Scared of Muslims are you? YOU'RE HIRED! $$"
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    read these board rules....

    can you say anything you want? is it a free speech issue?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?
    ...i don't think she actually knows what a communist is.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    haffajappa wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?
    ...i don't think she actually knows what a communist is.
    ...
    Whatever it is... it's bad. Communist is like a Fascist, a Socialist or an Optometrist
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Cosmo wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?
    ...i don't think she actually knows what a communist is.
    ...
    Whatever it is... it's bad. Communist is like a Fascist, a Socialist or an Optometrist
    I'll be damned if they're going to take away my eye glasses and distribute them to my neighbour.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    In retrospect, Mr. Williams should write NPR a thank-you note. He just received a nice raise from Fox News.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101021/pl_yblog_upshot/fox-news-offers-juan-williams-2-million-contract;_ylt=ArgiHRpMvtHrGE7GWIeClQ6s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFpcTJrdjMxBHBvcwMzOQRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX21vc3RfcG9wdWxhcgRzbGsDZm94bmV3c29mZmVy
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    haffajappa wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Like norm's point haha!
    "Scared of Muslims are you? YOU'RE HIRED! $$"
    Fox News should change their name to "Hate News".
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    From Idiocracy - they weren't that far off......

    IdiocracyFoxNews.png
  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?

    You can prove otherwise I assume?
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    Juan should've played it safe and insulted Christians. They probably would've given him an Emmy for that.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......

    You mean like the Tea Partiers claiming that Obama is a Muslim, and a communist, and that he wasn't born in America?

    You can prove otherwise I assume?

    You mean beside the fact that he attends Christian churches and has birth records stating he was born in Hawaii? That's more evidence than the conservative lunatics have, which amounts to nothing more than, "He has brown skin and a funny name!"
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    You mean beside the fact that he attends Christian churches and has birth records stating he was born in Hawaii? That's more evidence than the conservative lunatics have, which amounts to nothing more than, "He has brown skin and a funny name!"[/quote]

    Good point. His presidency has been just as transparent as he promised it would be. I guess that explains why he's so good at uniting people. :roll:
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    aerial wrote:
    Yes when you try and be truthful you get into trouble........How sad it is people cannot be truthful anymore.......


    The truth is raped and left for dead everyday by Fox news.
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