The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

afJohnny2013 said:

static111 said:

A day we will hopefully forget about faster than we forgot about the last 100 school shootings that were far worse events for our country.

 I will never forget Charlie Kirk’s murder just like I won’t forget MLK Jr’s murder. 

MayDay10 said:

I'd like to have rules where a 22 year old cant get a gun that can virtually cut someone in half from 2 football fields away

Exactly.
No regular citizen needs the kind of weapon that killed Kirk nor an AK-47 or similar.
This kid couldn't have killed Kirk from that range with a .22 caliber hunting rifle. 

Poncier said:

MayDay10 said:

I'd like to have rules where a 22 year old cant get a gun that can virtually cut someone in half from 2 football fields away

Exactly.
No regular citizen needs the kind of weapon that killed Kirk nor an AK-47 or similar.
This kid couldn't have killed Kirk from that range with a .22 caliber hunting rifle. 

a bolt action hunting rifle?

this shit was horrible...  agree/disagree about beliefs. end of the day a man died in front of people coming together to yell and discuss those beliefs and opinions. hate/like what the fuck ever you choose, what are going to do from here on out as adults? battle each other like we always do or come together and figure it the fuck out together what we can do.....

Attaway77 said:

this shit was horrible...  agree/disagree about beliefs. end of the day a man died in front of people coming together to yell and discuss those beliefs and opinions. hate/like what the fuck ever you choose, what are going to do from here on out as adults? battle each other like we always do or come together and figure it the fuck out together what we can do.....

When the repub party evolves and accepts all of God’s children as one of their own.

Halifax2TheMax said:

Only 1,226 days to go. 

Until you...?

A) Hit 50,000 posts
Renew ice fishing license
C) Solve Oak Isle Curse
D) Get a job
E) All the above   

Real swell guy. He should date everyone’s daughter.

September 12, 2025 (Friday)

Since a gunman murdered right-wing activist Charlie Kirk at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, both social media circles and the political sphere have been alight with accusations that “the Left” was responsible for the shooting. Prominent right-wing social media accounts called the Democratic Party “a domestic terror organization” and declared “WAR.” Billionaire Elon Musk posted: “The Left is the party of murder.” 

From the Oval Office, President Donald J. Trump blamed the shooting on “the radical left” and vowed to “find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity, and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.” 

Without any information about the shooter, the media got in on the game, with the Wall Street Journal reporting yesterday that “[a]mmunition engraved with transgender and antifascist ideology was found inside the rifle authorities believe was used in Kirk’s shooting.” Bomb threats targeted Democratic politicians—primarily Black politicians—and historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs). 

Condemnation of the shooting was widespread. Perhaps eager to distance themselves from accusations that anyone who does not support MAGA endorses political violence, commenters portrayed Kirk as someone embracing the reasoned debate central to democracy, although he became famous by establishing a database designed to dox professors who expressed opinions he disliked so they would be silenced (I am included on this list).

Meanwhile, it was not clear the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was up to the task of finding the killer. FBI director Kash Patel and deputy director Dan Bongino were both MAGA influencers without law enforcement experience when Trump put them in charge of the agency. Once there, they focused on purging the agency of those they considered insufficiently loyal to Trump or “DEI hires.” In early August, they forced out the leader of the Salt Lake City, Utah, field office, Mehtab Syed, a decorated female Pakistani American counterterrorism agent. 

Meanwhile, David J. Bier of the Cato Institute reported that one in five FBI agents have been diverted from their jobs to conduct immigration raids with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and just hours before the shooting, three former top officials at the FBI filed a lawsuit against Patel, the FBI, Attorney General Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice, and the president accusing them of unlawfully politicizing the FBI, purging it of anyone who had ever worked on a criminal investigation of Trump. The lawsuit suggests Bongino had an “intense focus on [using] his social media profiles to change his followers’ perceptions of the FBI.”

As Quinta Jurecic reported today in The Atlantic, hours after the shooting, Patel’s personal social media account posted a picture of himself and Kirk; minutes later, Patel’s official FBI account posted that the shooter was already in custody and then, an hour and a half later, said the suspect had been released. Both Patel and Bongino appeared to be focused more on posting than on doing the work to find the shooter. 

This morning, Trump announced on the Fox News Channel’s Fox & Friends  that he had just heard “they have the person that they wanted.” That person turned out to be 22-year-old Utah native Tyler Robinson, who turned himself in to authorities after his father urged him to. Robinson's parents are registered Republicans; he was not affiliated with a political party and was an inactive voter. Over the past years, Robinson’s mother posted a number of pictures of him and his brothers posing with guns. 

Robinson had recently had a conversation with a family member about why they didn’t like Kirk’s viewpoints. Robinson appears to have admired the “Groypers,” led by Nick Fuentes, who complain that more mainstream organizations like Kirk’s Turning Point USA are not “pro-white” enough and have publicly harassed Kirk in the past. 

Allison Gill of The Breakdown explained that the rumors the shooter had engraved anti-fascist rhetoric on some of the bullet casings found at the scene turned out to be a misunderstanding of terms from the video game Helldivers2. The claim that he had used “transgender ideology” was apparently a misreading of the headstamp “TRN” that marks ammunition as the product of Turkish manufacturer Turan. 

Almost as soon as Robinson was identified, the tone of MAGA leader’s conversation about the shooting changed. Representative Nancy Mace (R-SC), who had used a slur to refer to the shooter as pro-transgender, posted on social media: “We know Charlie Kirk would want us to pray for such an evil, and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ. We will try to do the same.” 

For his part, Trump seemed to have lost interest in Kirk even earlier. Yesterday evening, a reporter offered the president his condolences on the loss of his friend Kirk and asked Trump how he was holding up. The president answered, in full: “I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's going to be a beauty. It’ll be an absolutely magnificent structure. And I just see all the trucks. We just started so it'll get done very nicely and it'll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually. Thank you very much.”

He was your prototypical "I'm a Christian" when in fact he was a hypocrite.
Just another run of the mill grifter who loved himself some wealthy white men who claim to be straight and "christian" while hating everyone else.

He did not deserve to die for those beliefs.

Meanwhile the right wing leaders, politicians, and pundits tripping over each other and themselves to martyr him is embarrassing. 

afJohnny2013 said:

static111 said:

A day we will hopefully forget about faster than we forgot about the last 100 school shootings that were far worse events for our country.

I don’t know you, but God does and I sincerely pray He intervenes in your life based on your posting. I will never forget Charlie Kirk’s murder just like I won’t forget MLK Jr’s murder. Your way of thinking is harmful to others.

lol

Windermere11 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

honest question. how much courage does it take to be a 30 year old man going and "debating" college kids in their late teens and early 20s? 

Honest answer:

The courage to risk his life! Just for providing a public forum and opportunity for open discussion? Charlie didn't pick and choose the people, their age, or questions they asked. (unlike the O'Biden admin). Now I gotta take a dump. God bless man kind. 

i doubt very seriously that he believed he was risking his life going to college campuses and arguing with kids with less than 20 years life experience. that is not courage. that is trying to pump up his brand with the "prove me wrong" schtick against kids that barely have the experience to be able to. also judgementally quoting bible verses in speeches is not courageous either.

to me, that is about as useful you telling everyone you have to take a dump.