The Assassination of Charlie Kirk

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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,965
    Evel K said:
    Hey everyone,  glad to see the thread didn't get closed. I posted here because I felt this community would see this for what it was. A senseless murder. We all have our own views on politics, gun rights, religion and abortion.  Any one of these could have been a shooter's motive. It could have easily been a combination of these. If we don't continue to talk about our views and try to find middle ground, the shooter wins. Charlie Kirk was trying to Change your Mind. He used logic, stats, history and religion to do it. His faith was the foundation for all of his views. He was beyond brave. This could have happened at any time, anywhere for any number of reasons. He continued working on the front lines because that was his calling

    It made him a millionaire. That's not a 'calling'. 
  • Evel K said:
    Hey everyone,  glad to see the thread didn't get closed. I posted here because I felt this community would see this for what it was. A senseless murder. We all have our own views on politics, gun rights, religion and abortion.  Any one of these could have been a shooter's motive. It could have easily been a combination of these. If we don't continue to talk about our views and try to find middle ground, the shooter wins. Charlie Kirk was trying to Change your Mind. He used logic, stats, history and religion to do it. His faith was the foundation for all of his views. He was beyond brave. This could have happened at any time, anywhere for any number of reasons. He continued working on the front lines because that was his calling. 

    lol
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,051
    Evel K said:
    Hey everyone,  glad to see the thread didn't get closed. I posted here because I felt this community would see this for what it was. A senseless murder. We all have our own views on politics, gun rights, religion and abortion.  Any one of these could have been a shooter's motive. It could have easily been a combination of these. If we don't continue to talk about our views and try to find middle ground, the shooter wins. Charlie Kirk was trying to Change your Mind. He used logic, stats, history and religion to do it. His faith was the foundation for all of his views. He was beyond brave. This could have happened at any time, anywhere for any number of reasons. He continued working on the front lines because that was his calling. 

    His calling also included the degrading of people who didn’t align with his train of thought! Logic? History he stated that the civil rights movement was a mistake? Is that what his Jesus would of wanted, MLK was a myth lol please stop with making him a saint he used vitriol to divide people 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,051
    Another fucking thing where the fuck is the front line the poster above speaks of what front line? 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 
    He lived with his transgender partner, who is cooperating with police. 

    The writings on the shell casings sort of indicate “lunatic from the left” with him writing things like “hey fascist, catch.” That’s the rhetoric used against Trump and conservatives all the time. And while the only source is some friend that knew him so it’s not confirmed, the friend claims he was the lone left-leaning person in an otherwise conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny and call your murder victim a fascist, you’re probably a “lunatic from the left.”

    from a reuters article on this kid....

    At the time of the shooting, Robinson was living at his parents' house in Washington, a farming and residential community of approximately 28,000 near Zion National Park in southwestern Utah.

    nothing about dating a transmission, which is weird...
    This Reuters article says he lived in an apartment 5 miles from his parents house. So you’re wrong.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/accused-sniper-jailed-charlie-kirk-killing-awaits-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-13/

    Police collected additional evidence on Friday evening from Robinson's apartment in St. George, about 5 miles (8 km) from his parents' home near the Arizona border.”

    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 
    He lived with his transgender partner, who is cooperating with police. 

    The writings on the shell casings sort of indicate “lunatic from the left” with him writing things like “hey fascist, catch.” That’s the rhetoric used against Trump and conservatives all the time. And while the only source is some friend that knew him so it’s not confirmed, the friend claims he was the lone left-leaning person in an otherwise conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny and call your murder victim a fascist, you’re probably a “lunatic from the left.”
    You are part of the problem. Sharing information that is misinformation. It’s sad. People corrected you within minutes, That should tell you something. It’s easier to believe lies than to find out the truth for some people, be better. 
    See above. The person that “corrected me within minutes” referenced a Reuters article (without linking to it) that said he lived with his parents. I posted a link to one that says he lived in an apartment, just like Fox News said 

    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny…
    Showing your whole ass here.
    This is great behavior.
    Quoting Fox Feux News in one spot and then doubling down on the hate.
    Bravo.

    Fox News isn’t wrong here. And if “tranny” upsets you, that’s the word THEBIBLEISTEN used in the post I was responding to. So take it up with him. 

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,162
    Everyone, let’s not use that word. 
  • mickeyrat
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,021
    mickeyrat said:

    What does that mean? Which fans are offended? For someone who just asked us not to pay attention to the opinions of content creators that you post, you keep posting a lot.
    Not trying to argue with you in that, I just find it funny.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,162
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,021
    edited September 14
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
    The only upset fans I see are at those gloating over his death. Which are quite a few. 
    Now that I think of it, those quoting him on gun deaths being worth it is the only time I’ve seen people upset over quoting him, but I actually haven’t seen that as much as just pure gloating.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,051
    mace1229 said:
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
    The only upset fans I see are at those gloating over his death. Which are quite a few. 
    Now that I think of it, those quoting him on gun deaths being worth it is the only time I’ve seen people upset over quoting him, but I actually haven’t seen that as much as just pure gloating.
    Who’s gloating here? 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Everyone, let’s not use that word. 
    Or the top posters here expressing their daily words of hate against people they don’t like.
    works both ways
    .
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,162
    I do think there are some people floating on social media over his death, but I’d say the majority of people who could be seen as “gloating” are just pushing back on the emerging narrative that he was a paragon of civil discourse that we should be pursuing in this country, when in actuality he had some aggressive views and disdain for historically marginalized people and had no problem agitating people who disagreed with him. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Some people want a certain narrative to be true so they can continue to cause chaos and hate. At the end of the day 2 kids lost their father and it’s not right. People, it’s up to us to stop this crap. It’s up to us to not be influenced by fake online crap and billionaires who gain power from lies. It’s time to rise above the noise and hatred and come together. It’s starts with all of us. Ok, I’m done preaching. 


    I want to live in a country  where it’s difficult to own and carry a gun, especially assault weapons.

    i want to live in a country where the first nine words of the second amendment mean something.

    I want to live in a country where politics is about solving problems and helping people

    I want to live in a country where politicians do not express hatred against people they don’t personally know

    I want to live in a country where people don’t organize others to hate people more

    I want to live in a country where people don’t try to get rich exploiting extremes and the youth.



    if Mr Kirk believed any of this, he very well could be alive and his children could be happy today. He had a responsibility to them, and instead decided radical politics, taking risks, and search for wealth and power were more important 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,021
    mace1229 said:
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
    The only upset fans I see are at those gloating over his death. Which are quite a few. 
    Now that I think of it, those quoting him on gun deaths being worth it is the only time I’ve seen people upset over quoting him, but I actually haven’t seen that as much as just pure gloating.
    Who’s gloating here? 
    Not here. But social media in general. It’s pretty bad. I’ve seen reports of teachers and other public people getting fired for what they’re posting.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,021
    edited September 14

    mickeyrat said:
    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 
    He lived with his transgender partner, who is cooperating with police. 

    The writings on the shell casings sort of indicate “lunatic from the left” with him writing things like “hey fascist, catch.” That’s the rhetoric used against Trump and conservatives all the time. And while the only source is some friend that knew him so it’s not confirmed, the friend claims he was the lone left-leaning person in an otherwise conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny and call your murder victim a fascist, you’re probably a “lunatic from the left.”

    from a reuters article on this kid....

    At the time of the shooting, Robinson was living at his parents' house in Washington, a farming and residential community of approximately 28,000 near Zion National Park in southwestern Utah.

    nothing about dating a transmission, which is weird...
    This Reuters article says he lived in an apartment 5 miles from his parents house. So you’re wrong.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/accused-sniper-jailed-charlie-kirk-killing-awaits-formal-charges-utah-2025-09-13/

    “Police collected additional evidence on Friday evening from Robinson's apartment in St. George, about 5 miles (8 km) from his parents' home near the Arizona border.”

    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 
    He lived with his transgender partner, who is cooperating with police. 

    The writings on the shell casings sort of indicate “lunatic from the left” with him writing things like “hey fascist, catch.” That’s the rhetoric used against Trump and conservatives all the time. And while the only source is some friend that knew him so it’s not confirmed, the friend claims he was the lone left-leaning person in an otherwise conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny and call your murder victim a fascist, you’re probably a “lunatic from the left.”
    You are part of the problem. Sharing information that is misinformation. It’s sad. People corrected you within minutes, That should tell you something. It’s easier to believe lies than to find out the truth for some people, be better. 
    See above. The person that “corrected me within minutes” referenced a Reuters article (without linking to it) that said he lived with his parents. I posted a link to one that says he lived in an apartment, just like Fox News said 

    4. The shooter was a white young male. Not a lunatic from the left or a tranny or an immigrant but rather from a gun loving family,  young white male from a conservative family. 

    When you date a tranny…
    Showing your whole ass here.
    This is great behavior.
    Quoting Fox Feux News in one spot and then doubling down on the hate.
    Bravo.

    Fox News isn’t wrong here. And if “tranny” upsets you, that’s the word THEBIBLEISTEN used in the post I was responding to. So take it up with him. 

    I have to say the irony is funny. Can’t mention a report that he was in a relationship with a transgender. But sharing rumors he was right wing extremist and part of the Groyper movement and living in his dads basement without any official word to support it is okay.
    I won’t believe any of it until I hear it directly from an official (non-media) source. They may already have, I haven’t caught up this morning.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,162
    Its pretty clear that this will be transformed into further vilifying Trans people, adding fuel to the fire for calls that they need to be eliminated from society.

  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,255
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
    The only upset fans I see are at those gloating over his death. Which are quite a few. 
    Now that I think of it, those quoting him on gun deaths being worth it is the only time I’ve seen people upset over quoting him, but I actually haven’t seen that as much as just pure gloating.
    Who’s gloating here? 
    Not here. But social media in general. It’s pretty bad. I’ve seen reports of teachers and other public people getting fired for what they’re posting.
    I saw that as well. I thought Charlie Kirk was for freedom of speech. So wouldn’t he be upset about people getting fired for expressing that freedom?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,051
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I think the conceit is people noting that Charlie Kirk said offensive or hateful things is triggering people mourning over his killing. 
    The only upset fans I see are at those gloating over his death. Which are quite a few. 
    Now that I think of it, those quoting him on gun deaths being worth it is the only time I’ve seen people upset over quoting him, but I actually haven’t seen that as much as just pure gloating.
    Who’s gloating here? 
    Not here. But social media in general. It’s pretty bad. I’ve seen reports of teachers and other public people getting fired for what they’re posting.
    Oh that’s terrible 
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