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 MSNBC mentioned it "might" have been an excited fan shooting in celebration at the event. I guess the career criminal killing a Ukranian lady was a radical right wing ? Edit that!HughFreakingDillon said:
 obviously you know he won't. We'll hear about the "radical left wing democrats" about 4 thousand times over the next 48 hours.Gern Blansten said:I wonder if trump will point out that Utah's governor and the mayor of Orem are both GOP. That seems to be really important to him when a crime is committed.0
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 Msnbc didn't mention that... Someone on Msnbc did.hunterh75 said:
 MSNBC mentioned it "might" have been an excited fan shooting in celebration at the event. I guess the career criminal killing a Ukranian lady was a radical right wing ? Edit that!HughFreakingDillon said:
 obviously you know he won't. We'll hear about the "radical left wing democrats" about 4 thousand times over the next 48 hours.Gern Blansten said:I wonder if trump will point out that Utah's governor and the mayor of Orem are both GOP. That seems to be really important to him when a crime is committed.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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            Anyone see the two questions that were asked just before the shot was fired and the one asked as he was struck?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            Enough of the politics. Just get rid of the guns. How many more deaths need to happen before something gets done? This should not be a political issue, but a human issue. More tragedies abound and we are an embarrassment to the world.0
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 dude. What the fuck.seanwon said:
 And tried to blame a "white guy" as quickly as possible. I am slowly realizing the radical left in this country are the cause of most of the violence and problems.nicknyr15 said:
 Get a clue? Grow up and stop being so fucking hateful towards people you disagree with. It’s disgusting. How can you defend your comment?Gern Blansten said:
 No I'm not joking. Get a clue.nicknyr15 said:
 Asking to get killed? For calling their opponent stupid? Are you joking? Most of you are on this site daily calling right wing voters dumb , stupid and uneducated. Should they kill one of you? WTF am I misunderstanding?Gern Blansten said:I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.0
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 No what were they?Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone see the two questions that were asked just before the shot was fired and the one asked as he was struck?Scio me nihil scire
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            There is video out of a person on the roof... Clearly a skilled shooter.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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 First question was “how many trans mass shootings have there been?” To which he replied, “too many.” Second question just before he was struck and didn’t reply to was, “how many mass shootings have there been this year?” He may have replied, “with or without gang affiliation?” But I might be mixing up quotes from the scene with quotes from previous appearances.static111 said:
 No what were they?Halifax2TheMax said:Anyone see the two questions that were asked just before the shot was fired and the one asked as he was struck?
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            Bongo and Kash tweeted that the suspect was in custody.... They just released that person
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            Killing people isn't the way to end fascism. In the first place, it's wrong and besides, making martyrs of people who don't like only helps their cause. This will only escalate and it's all downhill from here.Sorry for the downer post. Today's current events combined with this gawd awful new site format is why I haven't been here in weeks. 275 post on this thread alone since the last time I read it.OK, rant over. Back into hiding I go, gone for good by next March."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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            ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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 I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.gimmesometruth27 said:ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist.0
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 Nancy Mace was blaming dems and the reporter asked if the MN killings should be blamed on the GOP... You know how she answeredgimmesometruth27 said:ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
 1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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 i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding.mace1229 said:
 I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.gimmesometruth27 said:ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist.
 i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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            gimmesometruth27 said:
 i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding.mace1229 said:
 I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.gimmesometruth27 said:ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist.
 i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.
 There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.0
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 which one is that?east_ia_pj_fan said:gimmesometruth27 said:
 i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding.mace1229 said:
 I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.gimmesometruth27 said:ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.
 i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation.
 his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.
 what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that.
 the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist.
 i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.
 There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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