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  • east_ia_pj_fan
    east_ia_pj_fan Posts: 178
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,142
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • east_ia_pj_fan
    east_ia_pj_fan Posts: 178
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷

    Believe what you've been told.  Best of luck to you.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,142
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷

    Believe what you've been told.  Best of luck to you.
    Can you argue that those things I stated didn't happen?  I'm all ears.  It's like one side doesn't actually have this happen more than the other and you are just looking to promote a narrative and have a bad faith argument. "Prove me wrong"
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 891
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷
    Pelosi's husband, the attempt to burn down PA's governor's house with him in it, etc.

    It's very easy to downplay actions against those you don't consider to be human. See also: Germany in the 1930s-40s.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    Where’s the flag at half mast for her?
    May be an image of 1 person and text that says In Memory of MELISSA HORTMAN Former Minnesota House Speaker 1970-2025 -2025 1970 Taken far too soon in a targeted attack A voice for justice clean energy and and equality We honor her legacy leadership and courage RestInPower

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,880
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷
    I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,747
    brianlux said:
    Where’s the flag at half mast for her?
    May be an image of 1 person and text that says In Memory of MELISSA HORTMAN Former Minnesota House Speaker 1970-2025 -2025 1970 Taken far too soon in a targeted attack A voice for justice clean energy and and equality We honor her legacy leadership and courage RestInPower

    Trump did lower the flags for her. 

    But then said ge wasn’t going to waste his time calling Walz. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,747
    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    ugh horrible news. i was on the road all day at accounts 3 hours away and the first thing i saw when i checked my facebook feed tonight was the close up video of him being shot.

    i hate guns. i hate political violence. i disliked kirk strongly, but he did not deserve what happened to him. i hate that it happened, and i hate what will probably happen in retaliation. 

    his body isn't even cold yet and we do not know the motive of the shooter for certain. could have been a left winger, could have been a disgruntled maga upset that he said he would no longer discuss the epstein files stuff. all we know is this happened in ruby red utah of all places.

    what i do know is that i have seen every democrat on threads expressing sympathy to kirk's family and followers, and every republican demonizing democrats. they are not the same. these are the same people that laugh about paul pelosi and made up conspiracy theories about him. these are the people that said nothing when giffords was shot, nothing when the MN lawmakers were shot. there is a decency that needs to be expressed, and not everyone is doing that. 

    the right can hate the left when they figure out the shooter was a leftist
    I disagree on that. You shouldn’t hate a whole group based on the actions of one individual.
    i agree. you shouldn't. but people are already calling for violence against the left and they do not even know the motive of this shooter. they are being reactive, and not responding. 

    i get it. there is a visceral reaction and a rush to judgement. people want someone to blame. i get it. i get that way sometimes, but then i realize they do not even have the facts other than he was shot from some distance away and last i saw the person of interest that was in custody was released. from what i can tell they do not even have a suspect yet.

    There is one side that seems to be the main recipients of the assassination attempts.
    which one is that?

    Oh, I don't know.  Google recent assassination attempts and see what you find
    Two dem Minnesota politicians, I believe Gabby Gifford's shot in the head in 2011 an attempt on Whitmer a couple years ago...seems like it only happens to Dems 🤷

    Believe what you've been told.  Best of luck to you.
    “What you’ve been told”? Are you denying those things happened? 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,747
    hunterh75 said:
    I wonder if trump will point out that Utah's governor and the mayor of Orem are both GOP. That seems to be really important to him when a crime is committed.
    obviously you know he won't. We'll hear about the "radical left wing democrats" about 4 thousand times over the next 48 hours. 
      MSNBC mentioned it "might" have been an excited fan shooting in celebration at the event.  I guess the career criminal killing a Ukranian lady was a radical right wing ? Edit that! 
    Who cares what’s on msnbc? The fact someone on that network said something that moronic tells you all you need to know: they’re the left’s version of Fox. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,747
    seanwon said:
    and now we wait (oh, about 4 minutes or so) for the right to politicize it when they've always maintained "now is not the time to politicize gun violence". 
    Might as well, you clowns already have......

    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    Where’s the flag at half mast for her?
    May be an image of 1 person and text that says In Memory of MELISSA HORTMAN Former Minnesota House Speaker 1970-2025 -2025 1970 Taken far too soon in a targeted attack A voice for justice clean energy and and equality We honor her legacy leadership and courage RestInPower

    Trump did lower the flags for her. 

    But then said ge wasn’t going to waste his time calling Walz. 

    As far as I know, the flag at half-mast was only in Minnesota by order issued by Governor Walz.

    seanwon said:
    and now we wait (oh, about 4 minutes or so) for the right to politicize it when they've always maintained "now is not the time to politicize gun violence". 
    Might as well, you clowns already have......


    Typical knee-jerk reaction by T while no one yet has been identified as the shooter.  But why wait when the finger pointing can start straight off?  SMH.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,320
    hunterh75 said:
    I wonder if trump will point out that Utah's governor and the mayor of Orem are both GOP. That seems to be really important to him when a crime is committed.
    obviously you know he won't. We'll hear about the "radical left wing democrats" about 4 thousand times over the next 48 hours. 
      MSNBC mentioned it "might" have been an excited fan shooting in celebration at the event.  I guess the career criminal killing a Ukranian lady was a radical right wing ? Edit that! 
    Who cares what’s on msnbc? The fact someone on that network said something that moronic tells you all you need to know: they’re the left’s version of Fox. 
    Exactly. One and the same. But , at least msnbc fired someone for insensitive comments during a broadcast yesterday. Do you think fox would’ve done the same? 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,320
    mickeyrat said:
    Lovely people. One group of voters calling for more political violence as revenge and the other openly celebrating the death of a 31 year old father of two. 

    All of this overshadowing another school shooting yesterday. “Proud to be an American” 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,407
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,588
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Lovely people. One group of voters calling for more political violence as revenge and the other openly celebrating the death of a 31 year old father of two. 

    All of this overshadowing another school shooting yesterday. “Proud to be an American” 
    And today is 9/11... Those people will all be sidelined also to argue about this.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    So the common denominator is what folks? Go ahead you can answer it you know damn well what it is! Folks will do anything or endure anything to make sure 2A is protected that’s what this country wants, families of the victims have to live with pain for the rest of their lives 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,770
    And this prick president is not a unifier at all he’s a divider! Right away it’s a leftist liberal that is the shooter how would he know that? What a fucking disgrace he is 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,876
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Lovely people. One group of voters calling for more political violence as revenge and the other openly celebrating the death of a 31 year old father of two. 

    All of this overshadowing another school shooting yesterday. “Proud to be an American” 
    Yup, awful day yesterday.  Celebrating a murder of a 31 year old with a microphone is disgusting.  Calling for violence against the boogeyman leftists in response is disgusting.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,908
    edited 11:42AM
    I don’t tune in to watch either but from what I have seen over the years, MSNBC is not the lefts version of Fox News.