Guns.

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

That's longer than Carter got 

Loyalty is king. Trump probably thought Carter was a sucker for all the good he brought to the world. 

mickeyrat

Conservative influencer Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah university event - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/conservative-influencer-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-utah-university-event-2025-09-10/

njhaley1

Gern Blansten said:

That's longer than Carter got 

How much time did the Minnesota lawmaker get? 

Oh right, none; in fact "a waste of time" was the quote I believe. 

tbergs

HughFreakingDillon said:

Trump orders flags lowered to half-staff in honor of Kirk

From CNN's Samantha Waldenberg

President Donald Trump is ordering “all American Flags” lowered to half-staff in honor of Charlie Kirk after the conservative political activist was killed on Wednesday.

“In honor of Charlie Kirk, a truly Great American Patriot, I am ordering all American Flags throughout the United States lowered to Half Mast until Sunday evening at 6 P.M,” the president wrote on Truth Social.

Gross. He'd order it for Alex Jones and Joe Rogan too. Sickening. 

tbergs

MN has had Flags down for the school shooting the past 3 weeks.

HughFreakingDillon

njhaley1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

That's longer than Carter got 

How much time did the Minnesota lawmaker get? 

Oh right, none; in fact "a waste of time" was the quote I believe. 

correct:

“I think the governor of Minnesota is so whacked out. I’m not calling him. Why would I call him?” Trump told reporters on Air Force One. “The guy doesn’t have a clue. He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call him, but why waste time?”

Walz, for his part, said he was not surprised by Trump’s lack of interest in calling him. He did, however, point out that he had spoken with Vice President JD Vance.

“I’m always open to, you know, people expressing gratitude. Vice President Vance assured us, and he delivered, that the FBI would be there as partners with us to get it done,” Walz said. “That was what needed to be done.”

Tim Simmons

Trump did order flags at half staff for the MN lawmakers for 4 days. 

Tim Simmons

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/honoring-the-victims-of-the-tragedy-in-minneapolis-minnesota/

HughFreakingDillon

I guess two things were being conflated, the half mast and his comments about not calling Walz. 

njhaley1

HughFreakingDillon said:

I guess two things were being conflated, the half mast and his comments about not calling Walz. 

They're conflated, but the point still stands. When two Minnesota lawmakers (D) were shot, one killed along with his wife and dog, TFG called it a waste of time to talk to Walz.

When two kids were shot at a parochial school in Minnesota two weeks ago, flags were flown at half mast.  

Crazy we can't keep all of these shootings straight.

mace1229

Gern Blansten said:

Now there are reports that the shooter is NOT in custody....not sure who the old white guy is.

Reporting that shot came from 200 yards away...really odd

Police just said they had someone in custody, but had cleared him and let him go.
It is Utah, so the White male is probably spot on.

seanwon

Gern Blansten said:

Looks like an older white guy is the shooter...

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

No reports on the race of shooter yet.  When will you guys stop the race baiting?

The majority of hate I see is coming from the left these days, there is a reason I've stepped back from the Democratic party.  I've seen some of his videos.  I don't agree with the majority of what he says, and videos are obviously edited to make him seem the "winner" most of the time.  But I've also seen videos where he acknowledges the other person has good points.  You don't have to like his opinions, but he is always calm, well spoken, doesn't get upset, has stats to back up his opinions.

The most ironic part of all this is that when he is attacked for "spreading hate and division", he tells people he isn't doing that, he is trying to generate discussion, so people can understand each other's viewpoints and get along.  When civil discussion ceases to exist, that is when violence starts to happen. I heard him say it many times. What an unfortunate prophet he was.

Gern Blansten said:

my god that video of him getting shot is horrible...if he survives it will be a miracle

I don't think I've seen anything that horrifying since the images I saw on 9/11.

seanwon

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

Asking to get killed? For calling their opponent stupid? Are you joking? Most of you are on this site daily calling right wing voters dumb , stupid and uneducated. Should they kill one of you? WTF am I misunderstanding?

No I'm not joking. Get a clue.

Get a clue? Grow up and stop being so fucking hateful towards people you disagree with. It’s disgusting. How can you defend your comment? 

And tried to blame a "white guy" as quickly as possible.  I am slowly realizing the radical left in this country are the cause of most of the violence and problems.

seanwon

HughFreakingDillon said:

and now we wait (oh, about 4 minutes or so) for the right to politicize it when they've always maintained "now is not the time to politicize gun violence". 

Might as well, you clowns already have......

HughFreakingDillon

seanwon said:

Gern Blansten said:

Looks like an older white guy is the shooter...

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

No reports on the race of shooter yet.  When will you guys stop the race baiting?

The majority of hate I see is coming from the left these days, there is a reason I've stepped back from the Democratic party.  I've seen some of his videos.  I don't agree with the majority of what he says, and videos are obviously edited to make him seem the "winner" most of the time.  But I've also seen videos where he acknowledges the other person has good points.  You don't have to like his opinions, but he is always calm, well spoken, doesn't get upset, has stats to back up his opinions.

The most ironic part of all this is that when he is attacked for "spreading hate and division", he tells people he isn't doing that, he is trying to generate discussion, so people can understand each other's viewpoints and get along.  When civil discussion ceases to exist, that is when violence starts to happen. I heard him say it many times. What an unfortunate prophet he was.

Gern Blansten said:

my god that video of him getting shot is horrible...if he survives it will be a miracle

I don't think I've seen anything that horrifying since the images I saw on 9/11.

there is no "hate" from the left. It's intolerance of intolerance. 

It wasn't race baiting. There were initial reports that an older white gentleman was arrested. Gern was just stating what was reported. 

Kirk was full of hate. He disguised his hate as "civil discourse". He was full of shit. I hope the shooter is caught and brought to justice. 

Lerxst1992

seanwon said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

Asking to get killed? For calling their opponent stupid? Are you joking? Most of you are on this site daily calling right wing voters dumb , stupid and uneducated. Should they kill one of you? WTF am I misunderstanding?

No I'm not joking. Get a clue.

Get a clue? Grow up and stop being so fucking hateful towards people you disagree with. It’s disgusting. How can you defend your comment? 

And tried to blame a "white guy" as quickly as possible.  I am slowly realizing the radical left in this country are the cause of most of the violence and problems.

That’s not fair. Plenty of violence and hate comes from the right, especially the man up top. One could argue, a lot of the hate (or lack of discourse ) we see, especially in places like this, are democrats responding to being targeted by or subject to hateful political rhetoric from above.

we don’t know the why right now, but if you are North Korea or Russia, and want to create problems for America, this is just the type of thing they’d do. It’s horrible and violence is never the answer.

HughFreakingDillon

seanwon said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and now we wait (oh, about 4 minutes or so) for the right to politicize it when they've always maintained "now is not the time to politicize gun violence". 

Might as well, you clowns already have......

none of us politicized it that I've seen. Only person so far that mentioned blame of ideology is you. I actually did the exact opposite. And pointed out who ACTUALLY historically perpetrates more political violence by party. Just so the right couldn't say exactly what you're saying now. 

The real issue is guns and mental health. 

HughFreakingDillon

seanwon said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

nicknyr15 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

Asking to get killed? For calling their opponent stupid? Are you joking? Most of you are on this site daily calling right wing voters dumb , stupid and uneducated. Should they kill one of you? WTF am I misunderstanding?

No I'm not joking. Get a clue.

Get a clue? Grow up and stop being so fucking hateful towards people you disagree with. It’s disgusting. How can you defend your comment? 

And tried to blame a "white guy" as quickly as possible.  I am slowly realizing the radical left in this country are the cause of most of the violence and problems.

still wrong no matter how many times you say it. 

Gern Blansten

seanwon said:

Gern Blansten said:

Looks like an older white guy is the shooter...

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

No reports on the race of shooter yet.  When will you guys stop the race baiting?

The majority of hate I see is coming from the left these days, there is a reason I've stepped back from the Democratic party.  I've seen some of his videos.  I don't agree with the majority of what he says, and videos are obviously edited to make him seem the "winner" most of the time.  But I've also seen videos where he acknowledges the other person has good points.  You don't have to like his opinions, but he is always calm, well spoken, doesn't get upset, has stats to back up his opinions.

The most ironic part of all this is that when he is attacked for "spreading hate and division", he tells people he isn't doing that, he is trying to generate discussion, so people can understand each other's viewpoints and get along.  When civil discussion ceases to exist, that is when violence starts to happen. I heard him say it many times. What an unfortunate prophet he was.

Gern Blansten said:

my god that video of him getting shot is horrible...if he survives it will be a miracle

I don't think I've seen anything that horrifying since the images I saw on 9/11.

Oh shut up the guy they took into custody right after the shooting was an old white guy... Turns out it wasnt the shooter.  

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

seanwon said:

Gern Blansten said:

Looks like an older white guy is the shooter...

Gern Blansten said:

I don't wish injury for him but he's a complete idiot and he promotes hatred. These people that constantly call their opponents stupid, etc., are really just asking for a response like this.

No reports on the race of shooter yet.  When will you guys stop the race baiting?

The majority of hate I see is coming from the left these days, there is a reason I've stepped back from the Democratic party.  I've seen some of his videos.  I don't agree with the majority of what he says, and videos are obviously edited to make him seem the "winner" most of the time.  But I've also seen videos where he acknowledges the other person has good points.  You don't have to like his opinions, but he is always calm, well spoken, doesn't get upset, has stats to back up his opinions.

The most ironic part of all this is that when he is attacked for "spreading hate and division", he tells people he isn't doing that, he is trying to generate discussion, so people can understand each other's viewpoints and get along.  When civil discussion ceases to exist, that is when violence starts to happen. I heard him say it many times. What an unfortunate prophet he was.

Gern Blansten said:

my god that video of him getting shot is horrible...if he survives it will be a miracle

I don't think I've seen anything that horrifying since the images I saw on 9/11.

there is no "hate" from the left. It's intolerance of intolerance. 

It wasn't race baiting. There were initial reports that an older white gentleman was arrested. Gern was just stating what was reported. 

Kirk was full of hate. He disguised his hate as "civil discourse". He was full of shit. I hope the shooter is caught and brought to justice. 

Agreed... I still don't wish harm upon him but he was a hateful person. His whole tour was about promoting hate to morons.