Summer in Chicago

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  • Tim Simmons
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    Red states around IL hand out guns like candy, but its the Democrats not communicating well makes them the stupid ones? Do you listen to yourself?



  • Tim Simmons
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    Also, if you are here, you know where the guns come from. That doesn't solve the problem. 
  • FiveBelow
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
  • FiveBelow
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    Also, if you are here, you know where the guns come from. That doesn't solve the problem. 
    Bingo.
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
  • FiveBelow
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,433
    Tim Simmons said:
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    Red states around IL hand out guns like candy, but its the Democrats not communicating well makes them the stupid ones? Do you listen to yourself?



    I think lerxst is somewhat onto something with this. If this blue city has this huge problem, and it’s primarily the fault of the red states surrounding it and their mismanagement of guns - isn’t it a fair statement that if Democrats still get blamed for the state of Chicago, they’ve failed at communicating out the truth? 

    That said, it’s extremely hard to communicate effectively when the other side just makes shit up on a regular basis, and the news just gravitates right to the most sensational content to cover. I’m not sure what messaging strategy - besides embracing sensational lying to keep news coverage on you - is due to work. And I’m not sure that the dishonesty approach is one the party is willing to accept. 
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  • Tim Simmons
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    I'm saying it has been the talking point. It just doesn't move hearts or minds.

  • Tim Simmons
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    Also, for people not from the area, its the south and southwest sides where this problem is prevalent. Decades of redlining, disinvestment in the communities (Not just employment, but third places, hospitals and grocery), and a spotty Public School system. 

    Most of the people you see online complaining about "Chicago's violence and crime" are generally safe from it and their complaints aren't really from a place of genuine concern, but to support their political teams POV.
     
  • gimmesometruth27
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

    fuck yeah!!!! go st louis!!! wooooooo!!!!

    honestly we hardly ever hear about homicides on local news here. st louis is mostly safe as long as you know where to go.

    our cops here are too busy pulling people over for expired temporary tags and driving with a broken headlight instead of patrolling the bad areas in north city. if the cops won't go there, how will the murders there get prevented? i am sure chicago has a similar policing situation.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    But we don't need soldiers here. That won't fix the problem (unless the problem is a PR win for the Trump Admin). 
  • Go Beavers
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

    Maybe you missed where I said any murder is a problem, but thanks for pointing out that 12 cities have a larger problem. 
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

    Maybe you missed where I said any murder is a problem, but thanks for pointing out that 12 cities have a larger problem. 
    I saw your equivalent of "all lives matter" in an attempt to skirt the focus of the discussion, but you clearly don't recognize the inconsistency in your statements. Homicide rates are not homicides, homicides are homicides. Maybe you meant any homicide rate is a problem? If so, then yes, 12 cities by definition do have a larger problem. If you meant what you actually said, explain how 573 is less than 377, 322, 269, etc. Put whatever political force aside that is keeping you from answering a yes or no question and look at the data objectively. Now, do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

    Maybe you missed where I said any murder is a problem, but thanks for pointing out that 12 cities have a larger problem. 
    I saw your equivalent of "all lives matter" in an attempt to skirt the focus of the discussion, but you clearly don't recognize the inconsistency in your statements. Homicide rates are not homicides, homicides are homicides. Maybe you meant any homicide rate is a problem? If so, then yes, 12 cities by definition do have a larger problem. If you meant what you actually said, explain how 573 is less than 377, 322, 269, etc. Put whatever political force aside that is keeping you from answering a yes or no question and look at the data objectively. Now, do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    By default, when I say any homicide is a problem, and 12 other cities have a larger problem, I’m saying Chicago has a homicide problem. Nothing’s inconsistent in what I’m saying, and when you’re comparing cities/regions on a metric, rate is used for the sake of rational objectivity and accuracy. LA has a homicide problem that is much less than Chicago’s, St Louis has a homicide problem that’s worse. 
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 
    Fair enough, I can only speak for myself. Do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    Any homicide is a problem. Do you agree that several cities have a larger homicide problem? 
    Larger as defined by per capita, yes. Larger as defined by total homicides, no. Either way, the data clearly indicates Chicago (thread specific) has a problem. It really isn’t debatable, not sure why answering a simple question is so difficult.

    Maybe you missed where I said any murder is a problem, but thanks for pointing out that 12 cities have a larger problem. 
    I saw your equivalent of "all lives matter" in an attempt to skirt the focus of the discussion, but you clearly don't recognize the inconsistency in your statements. Homicide rates are not homicides, homicides are homicides. Maybe you meant any homicide rate is a problem? If so, then yes, 12 cities by definition do have a larger problem. If you meant what you actually said, explain how 573 is less than 377, 322, 269, etc. Put whatever political force aside that is keeping you from answering a yes or no question and look at the data objectively. Now, do you agree Chicago has a homicide problem? 
    By default, when I say any homicide is a problem, and 12 other cities have a larger problem, I’m saying Chicago has a homicide problem. Nothing’s inconsistent in what I’m saying, and when you’re comparing cities/regions on a metric, rate is used for the sake of rational objectivity and accuracy. LA has a homicide problem that is much less than Chicago’s, St Louis has a homicide problem that’s worse. 
    Common ground.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    Red states around IL hand out guns like candy, but its the Democrats not communicating well makes them the stupid ones? Do you listen to yourself?




    Its obvious why Chicago has such greater problems with guns as compared to other cities

    The fact that almost no one knows why speaks loudly about the Democrats ability to communicate 

    If you can't communicate you can't get elected

    If you can't get elected you can't solve problems


    My hearing is better then yours. And the reference to stupidity is in specific context to the one that always cries about it, instead of figuring out how politics can solve problems 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited September 5
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    Red states around IL hand out guns like candy, but its the Democrats not communicating well makes them the stupid ones? Do you listen to yourself?




    Its obvious why Chicago has such greater problems with guns as compared to other cities

    The fact that almost no one knows why speaks loudly about the Democrats ability to communicate 

    If you can't communicate you can't get elected

    If you can't get elected you can't solve problems


    My hearing is better than yours. And the reference to stupidity is in specific context to the one that always cries about it, instead of figuring out how politics can solve problems 
    Dems know what the issues are and communicate it and run on it ad nauseum. Repubs run stupid against it and win. And here we are. Because stupid buys what stupid is selling.

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,195
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    Red states around IL hand out guns like candy, but its the Democrats not communicating well makes them the stupid ones? Do you listen to yourself?




    Its obvious why Chicago has such greater problems with guns as compared to other cities

    The fact that almost no one knows why speaks loudly about the Democrats ability to communicate 

    If you can't communicate you can't get elected

    If you can't get elected you can't solve problems


    My hearing is better then yours. And the reference to stupidity is in specific context to the one that always cries about it, instead of figuring out how politics can solve problems 
    Please tell me about how Democrats harping about guns being the problem has ever helped them and not backfired.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,404
    People getting defensive about murder depending on what color the state votes is wild. Dem voters/republican voters both do it and it’s insane. If Chicago was a red state, this thread would be drastically different. Acting like republicans would do any better controlling the most densely populated cities is crazy. Exploiting homicide to send in the national guard and act like a hero is crazy. Everything is Weird to me. Whatever i guess 


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