Summer in Chicago

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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,379
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
  • Bentleyspop
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,856
    edited September 4
    shecky said:
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/teenage-son-killed-backyard-now-chicago-family-wants-trump-send-troops

    It's so bizarre to read old white guys here blather on about how safe cities like DC, Chicago, Memphis ad nauseam are. And how you vilify Trump for actually trying to do something about it.

    How do you know everyone here is an old white guy? 
    I don't think anyone is saying those cities are super safe. They are saying that There are much less safe cities that Trump will not send troops to because they are red. They're also saying that there are other ways to reduce crime than to militarize the nation. I don't understand why MAGAs would want America to be under federal military guard like that. Aren't Republicans supposed to be all about states' rights??? Wtf is going on with the right wing? It seems that they really are just becoming fascists, and they're proud of it. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    I think what the maga get duped on the most is that trump's flexing makes any sense. Sure if the Nat Guard comes in they will likely doctor up reduced crime incidents. What about when they leave? How long is it sustainable to keep the NG in a city? 

    The answer is that it isn't sustainable. It's a charade so that trump can play army.

    If crime is that bad then raise taxes to support federal funding to give our large cities more police.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    It’s always sad but it’s getting lower every year. It’s nice to see improvements.  
  • Go Beavers
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    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
  • Go Beavers
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    Gern Blansten said:
    I think what the maga get duped on the most is that trump's flexing makes any sense. Sure if the Nat Guard comes in they will likely doctor up reduced crime incidents. What about when they leave? How long is it sustainable to keep the NG in a city? 

    The answer is that it isn't sustainable. It's a charade so that trump can play army.

    If crime is that bad then raise taxes to support federal funding to give our large cities more police.
    The NG cost a million a day. Seems like a better use of the money would be hiring full time police officers. 
  • FiveBelow
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    Tim Simmons said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    It’s always sad but it’s getting lower every year. It’s nice to see improvements.  
    For sure. The main reason Chicago is picked on is because of their homicide rate being 2.5 to 3 times (using 2024 a "good" year) the national average, while also being the 3rd most populous city in the country. At the national average Chicago would see roughly 185 homicides per year (already 278 with 4 months to go), they haven't seen less than 400 since 1965. I personally wouldn't be satisfied, but baby steps are better than nothing. 
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,379
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,646
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,379
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,646
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
  • Go Beavers
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    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
  • gimmesometruth27
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    Bentleyspop said:

    hell yeah, number 3 baby!!!!!!!

    funny that half of them are in red states.
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  • FiveBelow
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    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
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    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
  • Go Beavers
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    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,312
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  


    This is another area to blame Democrats and inability to communicate.

    One of Chicago's major problems is they are surrounded by Republican gun States.

    Every state near them loves guns produces guns trades guns sellss guns give guns to their mothers gives guns to their kids gives guns to their brothers.

    Democrats should be making this argument 24 hours a day 7 days a week. They should be hitting the head over America with this argument. There's a reason why there's a lot of guns in Chicago and much less guns in New York and Los angeles. But Democrats are the stupid ones. Yes, Hal the Democrats are the stupid ones

    They're the ones that never know how to make the right argument and stick with it
    No, Lerxst, repub and repub leaning voters are the stupid ones. There’s no amount of convincing or arguing or beating them over the head that will change it. You can’t fix stupid.

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  • FiveBelow
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    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
  • Go Beavers
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    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Go Beavers said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Only 278 murders in 8 months! Sounds like a great summer in the Chi for everyone who's not grieving over having to bury a loved one. 
    The sudden sympathy is only a thin veil for wanting more authoritarianism. 
    What exactly does this have to do with my comment? Are you suggesting I support the NG being called in, and/or authoritarianism? 
    Your sarcasm came across as justifying it. I could be wrong. 
    You are. My sarcasm was meant to shed light on the amount of people who are grieving the senseless loss of life that occurs much more regularly than it statistically should.
    The homicide rate nationally is what? Around 4/100k?  What large city falls at or below that? 
    I checked. Looks like San Diego, San Jose, SF, and NYC answer my question. Blue city hell holes!
    I'm not here to politicize, that bandwagon is long past full capacity. Chicago has a historical problem, and I couldn’t care less what party they or any other city simps for. Whatever helps you to justify the political aspect of this truth is up to you.  
    And the “main reason” it’s picked on is because of political reasons and not because the homicide rate is 3 times the national average. 
    Maybe for political homers and the people they choose to associate with, but did I do that? You seem to be projecting a lot. I thought reasoned debate and discussion were the goal of amt. 
    it is. And I’m disagreeing  with what you said about why it’s picked on. 

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