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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,094
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. 

    huh.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,960
    edited August 28
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,960
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. 

    huh.
    Yet uses it as a verification tool for his posts. 

    Huh indeed. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 

    Keep reading the fan views . It’s brought up by more than one commenter.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. 

    huh.
    ..
    How AI is used in fact-checking
    While AI can't verify facts independently, it's a powerful tool to assist human fact-checkers. Think of it as a helpful assistant, not a final authority. Here are some of the key ways AI is used in fact-checking:
     * Large-scale monitoring: AI can quickly analyze vast amounts of data from news sites, social media, and other sources to identify potential false claims at an incredible scale and speed.
     * Claim identification: AI tools can be trained to automatically identify claims that are "check-worthy," such as a politician's statement with a statistic, and flag them for human review.
     * Multimedia analysis: AI is used to detect manipulated images, videos, and audio (deepfakes). For example, it can analyze metadata, reverse-image search, and check for signs of digital alteration.
     * Data retrieval: When a claim is flagged, AI can quickly retrieve relevant evidence from reliable sources like government databases, academic papers, and official reports, saving human fact-checkers valuable time.
     * Tracking disinformation: AI can help trace the spread of misinformation by identifying patterns and networks involved in its distribution.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,960
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 

    Keep reading the fan views . It’s brought up by more than one commenter.
    you said I need not go any farther than page 1. I did as you instructed. 1 person. Sure, maybe there were a few pockets of people booing. That's not another Uniondale. That's just the law of averages in any given group of 15,000 people. 

    Again, there's a reason you can't produce video of any significant booing in an age when you can find a guy cheating on his wife in a group of 80,000 people. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,002
    edited September 2
    I remember back in 2000 I think it was, reading a few articles and seeing a few news clips about PJ being booed when they brought up politics, and in at least one case fans left. I don't remember it at my shows.
    One of them asked Eddie if it surprised him fans left because of their politics, and he replied "yeah, people usually leave because our music sucks."
    I specifically remember cleaning out the garage with my dad when that clip came on the radio and we couldn't stop laughing for a few minutes. 
    Man, so weird to think I'm almost the same age he was then!
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 

    Keep reading the fan views . It’s brought up by more than one commenter.
    you said I need not go any farther than page 1. I did as you instructed. 1 person. Sure, maybe there were a few pockets of people booing. That's not another Uniondale. That's just the law of averages in any given group of 15,000 people. 

    Again, there's a reason you can't produce video of any significant booing in an age when you can find a guy cheating on his wife in a group of 80,000 people. 

    Wow, that comments loaded with logical fallacies.


    I was there and without doubt the cat calling and booing was loud, took vedder by surprise, albeit nothing like 2003. I said it was discussed on pg 1, but also by other commenters throughout the fan view.


    And Coldplay has become a massive global meme for cheating, so that’s absolutely related to a bunch of fans booing vedders politics. I’d bet you Martin wishes he didn’t make that joke, because he will never outrun it.


    ” if I don’t get the exact evidence only I say is legitimate, Im taking my toys and going home.”
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,960
    "no need to go further than page 1". Direct quote. 

    roll the tape. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,972
    😂 dudes arguing about how many people booed PJ MSG 24 😂 I was there it was more applauding then booing and who gives a flying fuck? Guns are a problem. 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    Never mind! AI is fun!

     what does a Venn diagram of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent fans look like?

    A proper Venn diagram illustrating the fanbases of Pearl Jam, Kid Rock, and Ted Nugent would show almost no overlap, as their music styles and associated demographics are sharply distinct. The diagram would feature three separate, or nearly separate, circles.

    How a Venn diagram of these fanbases would look

    Little to no intersection

    A traditional Venn diagram shows all possible intersections between sets. But in the case of these three artists, the overlapping areas would be very small or empty, representing a negligible number of fans who genuinely appreciate all three. The reason for the separation lies in the artists' radically different musical styles and political associations.
    • Pearl Jam: A major band of the 1990s grunge movement. Their fans typically value introspective, socially conscious, and lyrically complex rock music. The band is known for its left-leaning politics and activism.
    • Kid Rock: A musician who blended rock, country, and hip-hop in the 1990s and 2000s before shifting toward conservative political commentary. His fanbase is often described as working-class and is strongly associated with the MAGA movement.
    • Ted Nugent: A hard rock and heavy metal guitarist who rose to prominence in the 1970s. He is a prominent political conservative and outspoken activist for gun rights and hunting. His fanbase largely consists of older, hard rock enthusiasts who share his political leanings.
    The overlapping zones
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock fans: This intersection would be very small. A potential crossover fan might be someone who appreciated the anti-establishment ethos of both artists in the 1990s before their political paths diverged significantly.
    • Pearl Jam + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would also be very small, if it exists at all. The bands represent different eras and subgenres of rock, and their political positions are generally considered to be on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    • Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This intersection would be the most substantial of the three, but still not large. Both artists attract a politically conservative fanbase and are known for their outspoken advocacy for gun rights. A fan of one is more likely to also be a fan of the other than of Pearl Jam.
    • Pearl Jam + Kid Rock + Ted Nugent fans: This hypothetical intersection would likely be empty. No common musical style or political views unite these three artists.



    AI can definitely be wrong. I was there. When Ed mentioned the R word, the boos were loud and prolonged.


    ” According to multiple reviews and fan accounts from their September 2024 concerts at Madison Square Garden, Pearl Jam was not booed when lead singer Eddie Vedder brought up political topics.
    While Vedder is known for being outspoken on political issues, including giving "React, Respond" a new name for 2024—"Don't Complain, Vote"—the audience reactions described were overwhelmingly positive. A review in The Music Universe mentions the crowd "erupted in love" and rallied around a young boy Vedder spoke about, which occurred in the same show as his "Don't Complain, Vote" message. Another review noted that Vedder used the stage to advocate for pro-choice politicians and that his statements were "reinvigorating."
    Some online forum discussions among fans did express mixed feelings about the number of covers or the specific song choices, including political ones, but there is no evidence of the band being booed for bringing up the Republican Party. The overall tone of the concert reviews and fan reactions was that the shows were "amazing" and "fire," and the crowd was "alive" and "singing passionately."

    post the clip. I'm sure it exists if it's real. 
    Have at it, others also spoke about him getting “ heckled and booed.” Of course the only place people expect us to lie is on a politics forum.



     No need to go further than pg 1

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/304827/new-york-ny-2-fanviews-here-9-4-24/p12



    I accused no one of lying. I wanted to see/hear for myself, which you didn’t post. 

    I read the entire page 1 and there was 1 person who said “a few assholes booed” followed by several others posting they heard no such thing. 

    As I expected. 

    Edit to add: it’s always very telling when a person makes a claim, then gets defensive when asked to back up/verify said claim. 

    Keep reading the fan views . It’s brought up by more than one commenter.
    you said I need not go any farther than page 1. I did as you instructed. 1 person. Sure, maybe there were a few pockets of people booing. That's not another Uniondale. That's just the law of averages in any given group of 15,000 people. 

    Again, there's a reason you can't produce video of any significant booing in an age when you can find a guy cheating on his wife in a group of 80,000 people. 

    Wow, that comments loaded with logical fallacies.


    I was there and without doubt the cat calling and booing was loud, took vedder by surprise, albeit nothing like 2003. I said it was discussed on pg 1, but also by other commenters throughout the fan view.


    And Coldplay has become a massive global meme for cheating, so that’s absolutely related to a bunch of fans booing vedders politics. I’d bet you Martin wishes he didn’t make that joke, because he will never outrun it.


    ” if I don’t get the exact evidence only I say is legitimate, Im taking my toys and going home.”

    “No need to go further than pg 1” correct.


    So that must mean no other evidence exists in the data. 


    LMFAO


    ..

    “No, telling a reader to look at the first page of data to prove a fact doesn't make the remaining pages irrelevant. The instruction simply directs the reader to a specific, often primary, source of evidence. The remaining data may contain additional, corroborating, or even contradictory evidence that could offer a more complete picture. The relevance of data depends on its content, not its position in a document. The instruction is a shortcut to a key piece of evidence, not a dismissal of everything else.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,960
    I never said it made the following pages irrelevant. Your entire argument stemmed from the fact the proof was on page 1. I proved you wrong, so now you're moving the goal posts again, and using AI cuz you can't state your own case. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    I never said it made the following pages irrelevant. Your entire argument stemmed from the fact the proof was on page 1. I proved you wrong, so now you're moving the goal posts again, and using AI cuz you can't state your own case. 

    "No need to go further than pg 1" (to see supporting evidence).


    That was the thought when the comment was written. In no way does that deny the truth that  evidence continues throughout that thread nor does it mean we should ignore that evidence when searching for the truth. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,276
    😂 dudes arguing about how many people booed PJ MSG 24 😂 I was there it was more applauding then booing and who gives a flying fuck? Guns are a problem. 

    Before making  judgment why don't you try being a Centrist or conservative commenter on this forum, and see what it's like when attacked for posting obvious truths  
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    did you all see biden looking and acting way healthier than trump?

    that has to sting some of you around here.
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    did you all see biden looking and acting way healthier than trump?

    that has to sting some of you around here.
    It was really the auto-pen, duh.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,667
    did you all see biden looking and acting way healthier than trump?

    that has to sting some of you around here.
    It was really the auto-pen, duh.
    i forgot to consult ai before i posted what my own eyes told me.
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    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,643
    did you all see biden looking and acting way healthier than trump?

    that has to sting some of you around here.
    can you imagine trump in shorts? or riding a bike?

    lol...he's a marshmallow 
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    did you all see biden looking and acting way healthier than trump?

    that has to sting some of you around here.
    can you imagine trump in shorts? or riding a bike?

    lol...he's a marshmallow 
    i've seen him in his tennis outfit. that is enough of a visual for me.
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    😂 dudes arguing about how many people booed PJ MSG 24 😂 I was there it was more applauding then booing and who gives a flying fuck? Guns are a problem. 

    Before making  judgment why don't you try being a Centrist or conservative commenter on this forum, and see what it's like when attacked for posting obvious truths  
    Boo hooo hooo it’s your truth 
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